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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23406236 - 07/03/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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My understanding is there's no goal in meditation. To gave a goal would be counterproductive.
We are not trying to focus on anything exclusively or keep the mind from wandering, but to
observe our thoughts so we don't get swept away by them.



I agree. It's the ability to keep from getting swept up in them for more than 60 seconds to which I refer. It's taken an awful lot of practice to be able to do so IME.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23406266 - 07/03/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I still habitually try to make goals of meditation.

Many people struggle with judging themselves, "I'm such a crappy meditator" 

Random thought =

When I began to meditate a few years back, I was reminded of the album by Ministry, "The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste"

(Not sure you are of the age to know or appreciate that reference)


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23406554 - 07/03/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not of the age to remember it (32) but certainly of an age where I can likely appreciate it. As long as it's not death metal.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23407703 - 07/03/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The one making out


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: tump]
    #23408132 - 07/03/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its a choice not an absolute, empowered with this knowledge happiness can ensue.


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: pineninja]
    #23408658 - 07/03/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

We don't remember only the bad, we remember extremes on every side of the spectrum, good and bad.

It's a good question to why we only remember the extremes though.


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: tump]
    #23420307 - 07/07/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If i had a time machine and went back to 1920 to kill Hitler and take his place. Only i don't bluid a political party based on hate. So i still come to power and still reform New German with no World War 2,no holocost. And make the first space program and get people to the moon. Would anyone remember the name Hitler then?

Is it not human natural to pick out only the evil and wrongs in the world with no regard to good




If you done those things, you'd be remembered, documented in tens of thousands of books and recalled in literally every quiz show.

Being remembered and having fame is only important if you are heavily invested in this existence. For many who aren't, their only concern is themselves remembering the divine source in an effort to return to it.



Edited by Duncan Rowhl (07/07/16 02:01 PM)


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23420364 - 07/07/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

so - hey all - there is one mechanism about the human ( and mammalian , i believe this is true for most mammals )

we remember. . . . well -- here is the thing - there's a mechanism to remember painful events more sharply or clearly than average events...

from an evolutionary view, the general idea of it is that we'll learn to be careful, etc. --

but -- in our new environment ( and even for a couple hundred years ) this has to be adjusted or adapted. . .

simply knowing about it is a huge help, though - psychologically speaking, it is a significant factor of life - means, a strong resilience to those events, and or - a strong connection to the positives and so forth,

in other words - this evolutionary mechanism ( for survival ) can almost backfire when it comes to day to day life and so forth . . . but -- and this is the huge but -- (lol, no pun intended),

understanding this aspect of nature is half the battle in transcending it, and so forth. . .


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Re: why do we remember only the bad. [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #23431028 - 07/11/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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once in a lifetime said:

... there's a mechanism to remember painful events more sharply or clearly than average events.





Neurologists call this the "negativity bias" of the brain. An adaptive feature indeed.

The phenomenon that negative experiences have a greater effect on one's psychological state than neutral ones.


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