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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23409688 - 07/04/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

@ ripT

Why would you tell OP to respect something that is trying to enslave and intimidate him (demons)?

really bad advice, respecting devils never frees one from their control. And no, he isn't permanently controlled, the human spirit is higher and more powerful than demons. You should grow up with your "respect the demons" nonsense. "Sorry for your loss?" What loss? Because he refuses to bow down to demons? Wow, you really sound like an ignorant asshole, and quite immature too.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: healerfromtheland]
    #23410544 - 07/04/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Name-calling is obviously the hallmark of maturity. :lol: Are you also off your medications? :nono: As we all know, that's when some people experience their demons the most. By all means take your demons seriously, only take them away pharmacologically - as prescribed.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #23411446 - 07/04/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The demons are the true gods, the ones we call demons are the pagan gods.

Your "god" is a liar, and an evil murderous creature.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: ripT]
    #23411550 - 07/04/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The demons are the true gods, the ones we call demons are the pagan gods.

Your "god" is a liar, and an evil murderous creature.




I never once mentioned anything about a "God" in the first place. You pagan heathens really bother me, believing in evil spirits and conjuring demons. That has nothing to do with any kind of spirituality. It's just evil magic, plain and simple.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: healerfromtheland]
    #23411559 - 07/04/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't believe they're evil. You believe what you've been taught because you lack the critical thinking to decide for yourself.

You've been taught that demons are evil, to keep you from their power. You're weak. With them you could be strong, but you fear them.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #23411563 - 07/04/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Name-calling is obviously the hallmark of maturity. :lol: Are you also off your medications? :nono: As we all know, that's when some people experience their demons the most. By all means take your demons seriously, only take them away pharmacologically - as prescribed.




you self-righteous piece of shit, fuck you. You sound like you work for the pharmaceutical industry. And you're a priest too. Found any little boys to molest lately?

User banned for this post - CJ





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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23411711 - 07/04/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No, not a pharm rep, priest, or a pedophile. But I see that the forum is populated by inarticulate and inflated adolescents using the most banal, puerile insults possible. Righteousness is not self-righteousness, and being right doesn't make one either right-eous or self-righteous. Try communicating without the bad words you used to get spanked for, your class is showing.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: ripT]
    #23411747 - 07/04/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The demons are the true gods, the ones we call demons are the pagan gods.

Your "god" is a liar, and an evil murderous creature.





This is the kind of inflationary rhetoric that suggests someone whose anger has taken up a very eccentric form. This is no philosophical, theological, or demonological statement. This is just name-calling issuing from some kind of late adolescent angst, an accusation with no basis in reality, and the erroneous identification of "god" [sic] with a "creature." "Your 'god'" is  just silly and if you're just going to be silly, there's no point in trying to communicate. :bye:


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #23413066 - 07/05/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Anger, like hate, is  born of fear, and this from someone who conjoins the notion of Yoga with Shamanism - two models in opposition - yogic enstasy vs. shamanic ecstasy. Someone is is conflicted. :yesnod:




wasn't familiar with that term. Here is its definition:

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Enstasy (Gk., en-stasis, ‘standing into’). The experiences, or abolition of experience, arising as a consequence of those meditational, etc., techniques which withdraw the practitioner from the world, and even from awareness of the self. The word was coined in contrast to ecstasy. Examples are dhyāna, jhāna.





the yogic model's roots is to escape the world, the physical body, sensual experience. Alan Watts explains this very well in his book Nature, man and Woman:
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'...nature is still feared as the beguiler and temptress, the Spider Mother, the abyss of universal flux which is always threatening to swallow the human person. Nature is seen as the wilderness encroaching upon the garden and the ocean washing away the shore---blind, disorganized, almost cancerous proliferation, against which every human work must be defended with perpetual vigilance. Chief of these works is the personality, the conscious ego, which needs an ark of salvation against the waters of the unconscious and its vast currents of "animal" lust and fear.' - (page 48)




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But the general trend of Indian thought was to fall into the very trap it should have avoided: it confused the abstract world of maya with the concrete world of nature, of direct experience, and then sought liberation from nature in terms of a state of conciousness bereft of all sense experience. It interpreted maya as an illusion of the senses rather than thought projecting itself through the senses. In various forms of yoga it cultivated prolonged exclusive concentration upon a single point--avidya!--in order to exclude sense experience from consciousness, regarding it as the supreme obstacle to spiritual insight. Above all, sense experience implied "woman," not only as a highly attractive experience, but also as the "cource" of birth into the natural world, and thus the very incarnation of maya, the Cosmic Seductress.
...It was in this way that much of Indian philosophy became in practice the archetype of all world-denying dualisms, and in seeking liberation from sense experience became twice over the victim of maya (page 152 ibid)




Also ecstasy is not the sole province of ancient shamanistic tradition. There was (/is) also the ancient tradition of communal ecstatic rites of the Goddess, inspired with psychedelics, which did not require a shaman, and where every celebrant took the psychedelic and experience ecstatic possession. In this form there is no duality between nature and spirit, nor seeking to escape nature and human and animal sensuality. Rather there would be freedom to express such energies in celebration of nature


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: zzripz]
    #23415523 - 07/05/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

what about tantric yoga?


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23415736 - 07/06/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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ALSO TO ADD TO THIS, NO EVIL SPIRIT CAN HARASS OR MOCK ME, NO PLANT SPIRIT CAN CONTROL ME, AND NO ENTITY HAS POWER OVER ME.



Could you say what you think makes a spirit evil? And what these spirits are saying to you that makes you think they're evil?


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: Q.I]
    #23419380 - 07/07/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Could you say what you think makes a spirit evil? And what these spirits are saying to you that makes you think they're evil?




its evil because it harasses me 24 hours of the day, to the point where I can't even get any sleep. And it's not just one, it's many sprits. They mock me and harass me and condescend me and insult me constantly which is what makes them evil spirits. They're draining all my energy with their malicious tactics.


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23420098 - 07/07/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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what about tantric yoga?




well yes, but I think it became appropriated by an androcentric monastic mindset which then interpreted it to mean using their female partners for their own 'goal' of 'ascendance'

Whereas originally I am understanding it to be the ecstatic celebration of sexuality however you choose to do it, cumming or not


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23420350 - 07/07/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Brother, the only entity that can control you is within yourself, our egos divide consciousness from the spirit and elude us from truth. to hate is to fear what may happen if a factor remains in our life. Religion is neither good or bad, but is a creation to give life a sense of purpose. Some people are more content with that belief than accepting life, there is no logic behind judgement, it means we are distracted from the desire to understand why things happen. When you understand something it can be accepted. Superiority is an illusion, we ourselves are no more superior than grass or even a rock, division is the illusion, we are the universe looking at itself. when one chooses to believe in a superior being it is because taking a boat acrossed the ocean is safer than swimming acrossed it; they would rather follow in footsteps of those who they idolize rather than to guide themselves. we often judge people for their lack of will to understand, but theyve simply fallen victim to 7 deadly sins and have allowed an ego to manifest itself. There truly is no such thing as a personality- it is ego. Our dependence of other people is the only reason why we feel emotion. Observe the world as if you are the only one in it, everyone has died, and are as dead as  they  will ever be. why do we feel that we arent free, just because other people are here?


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Re: I can't be intimidated by religious bullshit [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23422074 - 07/08/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Could you say what you think makes a spirit evil? And what these spirits are saying to you that makes you think they're evil?




its evil because it harasses me 24 hours of the day, to the point where I can't even get any sleep. And it's not just one, it's many sprits. They mock me and harass me and condescend me and insult me constantly which is what makes them evil spirits. They're draining all my energy with their malicious tactics.



I would recommend taking inositol. It's a B vitamin and is good for helping to sleep. It's also good for anxiety and panic attacks. A good diet low or no carbs and sugar with good protein can help alot.  Lacto-ovo vegetarian is the best.


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