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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #23400409 - 07/01/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those people who are so "far out" are impossible to understand what they're all about and they just ramble on because they want to make it seem like they know what they're talking about. They desperately try to make it seem that they're more than just drug addicts without a job.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23400467 - 07/01/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Those people who are so "far out" are impossible to understand what they're all about and they just ramble on because they want to make it seem like they know what they're talking about. They desperately try to make it seem that they're more than just drug addicts without a job.




Yeah there are those people too. That's not who I'm talking about. The choice of words is of little importance here.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: blazejesus] * 1
    #23400475 - 07/01/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Far out high people, good way to describe what it is lol




I'm just using ram dass lingo for ease. Call it want you want. Enlightened? It's like using the word God. We need to describe ineffable concepts somehow and our words will always fall short.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: pskept]
    #23400478 - 07/01/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shit we got a student of hippieism here.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: passifloracaerulea] * 3
    #23400535 - 07/01/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It was like every other counterculture out there.  At first, it was a bunch of us (and I'm old enough to have been there), that weren't jobless, burnt out drug users as some have suggested.  We wanted life to be more about life and less about things.  We didn't care so much about what people looked like, what clothes they wore, what cars they drove, what job/education they professed, but much more about what they had to offer to living.  Some were poets, some musicians, some artists and so on and on and on.  In the beginning we were easy to spot, one to another, and it was like a communal spirit.  Most of us were searching for answers, questioning authority, taking stands on social issues.  And then it became popular.  It became "in" to be a "hippie" and it was the death of it.  It stopped being a movement and became a fashion statement.  The drugs that were once sacred became recreational. Some of the posts above are accurate in some ways.  America would have become different if the movement had had its way.  We might have stayed in Viet Nam.  We might have become less Wall Street oriented.  We might have been less "successful" on the world stage.  I guess it all depends on what is meant by a place being "better."  More might be more, or it might be less, I don't know.  Some of us never stopped being hippies.  We still fight for lost causes, like the environment, keeping prisons from being a for profit industry, thinking that people shouldn't be kept alive because of the insurance they can afford.  Others who grew their hair out and wore the fashion of the day, still did the same old stuff, popped open a beer, put their feet on the coffee table and watch tv just like they would have done with the crew cut they had before it was out of style.  There was something special about the early days, a camaraderie that was lost by dilution, but I see signs of it coming back.  There are a lot of folks on this site that are hippies by my way of thinking.  I wish you had all been there in the early days.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: MConchis]
    #23400575 - 07/01/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Haha it's like the electronic music scene. Everything was better a few years ago and now it sucks

Everyone gets jaded at some point haha


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: MConchis] * 2
    #23400578 - 07/01/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I homesteaded an old farm that hadn't been lived on since the 60's with my ex. We had a hippie commune(intentional community sorry) across the road from us and were striving for a similar model for our farm. I built the farm completely on an off grid system charging a large battery bank each day. We had all the power we needed for a small farm and community. We had chickens, chinchillas, rabbits, llama, alpaca, dogs, cats, greenhouses, large functional compost piles that stayed at 180degrees, boiler for heating barn, house, greenhouses, and water. It was the shit.
But...it was unrealistic. We still had to live in a shit economy that everyone else on this planet wants. You can't force your ideal way of life on anyone. You can live by example and all that. That's what we did, and it became clear that we were just living our own fantasy shared by very few. It's a very lonely place. Hippie parties become shallow events and hearing about love and community becomes hollow after so long and seeing all the drama that continues to play out even in these "enlightened" people.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #23400588 - 07/01/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

damn. well said. being a loner hippie really sucks. I'm done with those days.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #23400590 - 07/01/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've been to festivals where there's trash.

But I've also been to festivals that were, "Leave No Trace" events. Pack it in, pack it out. These usually do a good job of leaving the forest clean. There's always one trash can that is overflowing a bit at the end, but that's just the trash from the festie first timers that don't know any better yet.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23400668 - 07/01/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I really don't care what the rules are, I'll leave all my trash in a trashbag and leave it at my campsite. Not putting literal trash in my car


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: UncleCid] * 2
    #23400688 - 07/01/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You're probably one of those assholes that puts their dog shit in a plastic bag and tosses it in the bushes!


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #23400707 - 07/01/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You're probably one of those assholes that puts their dog shit in a plastic bag and tosses it in the bushes!





One thing I do not care about is the environment. Maybe go hug more tree's or something


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: UncleCid]
    #23400715 - 07/01/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:no2::youseethisshit::slowreaction:


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: MConchis] * 1
    #23400720 - 07/01/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That was very well said. A lot of younger people don't realize that the country was a mess in the mid-late 60's...You had 2 Kennedys being shot, MLK assinated..along with the race riots that followed. A fucked up war going on that was unwinnable by any means and soldiers were dying at an unprecedented rate in a jungle on the other side of the world.

There were organised marches in Washington and other places where the counter culture really did make a difference.Politicized music had some part in that too...like Bob Dylan, CSNY, Neil Young. You had Kent State that pretty much was the hippie rally cry. I believe they made the hard liners take a good look at the politics of the day and they helped make change for the better.

Like any group of people, there were those that were in there for the party or hand outs or whatever...but, by in large, the ideals were in the right place. They proved that a loud voice of reason against wrong can have a positive effect.

It's funny, I was too young...10 yrs. old in 1969 but I knew a lot of hippies that were around....some of them today have raised kids and worked and retired...they are still environmentally conscientious and humanitarian type people. Some go to music festivals, some play in part time bands...but I think many have kept their core values.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23400725 - 07/01/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I laugh at all the people who cry about trash at a festival. Like if it's such a big deal you should grab a trashbag and go clean it up. Instead these people just talk shit about you. It's like well you're basically being a hypocrite right now

I'm real about it, I just don't give a shit. Someone who's being paid to clean up after the festival can do it


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: blazejesus]
    #23400760 - 07/01/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Millions of people, millions of means and motives




that is a good answer

there's a lot I like about the hippie movement, and a lot I don't. The individuals I know who I consider to be hippies are great people, but it might be my definition and yours don't meet up :shrug:

like any group its got its failings and it's failures, but few subcultures interest me like the hippies


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: UncleCid] * 3
    #23400762 - 07/01/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Or you could just be responsible for yourself. Too much to ask I suppose. I'd love to see the filth you live in.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #23400767 - 07/01/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Or you could just be responsible for yourself. Too much to ask I suppose. I'd love to see the filth you live in.





Go hug more trees


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: UncleCid]
    #23400814 - 07/01/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The hippy movement really came as a "consequence" of WW2. You had people from all over the world getting out of the war exposed to eastern and Island cultures of the world, as well as having the freedom to travel with relative freedom across Australia, Polynesia, India, Middle East and Europe. Veterans of the biggest war in history, and other people just coming of age now getting on to embrace ideas of peace and bohemian lifestyles as opposed to the relative cultural lock down of the WW2 period.

Those people who came out of the period also had the baby boomers who really soaked the hippy culture up, hence why it really boomed during their peak years in life.


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Re: What do you think of the hippy movement [Re: UncleCid] * 2
    #23400879 - 07/01/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Or you could just be responsible for yourself. Too much to ask I suppose. I'd love to see the filth you live in.





Go hug more trees



Why do your responses sound so gay and redundant? Who the fuck hugs trees?


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