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1secretagent
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Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

#23399519 - 06/30/16 11:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat: in green grass growing on composting horse manure (dung), Western WA

Gills: adnate to annexed greyish to black

Color: cream or off-white to yellowish.. older specimens have blackish caps

Cap: is convex

Spore print color: black

Bruising: Some blueing after handling, one damaged cap intense blue (see picture).

Smells mushroomy. Growing with Panaeolus Subbalteatus

I'm having problems uploading the pictures...there are more in my gallery.

Edited by 1secretagent (07/01/16 01:46 AM)

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23399537 - 06/30/16 11:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The picture with the horse is where they are growing. It's a very warm compost pile, and I've harvested ALOT of Panaeolus this spring.

Edited by 1secretagent (07/01/16 01:47 AM)

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xzylocybin
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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

[Re: 1secretagent]
#23399559 - 07/01/16 12:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It looks like one too me but I am not familiar with the species so definitely wait for a trusted identifier, I didn't know copes grew in western washington

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knarkkorven
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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

[Re: xzylocybin]
#23399716 - 07/01/16 01:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Panaeolus cinctulus

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23400724 - 07/01/16 10:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's odd, because these are quite different from the Panaeolus Cinctulus I've had ID'd...see below. Stem is completely different. It's a different mushroom.

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23400797 - 07/01/16 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Tell me how you find the stems completely different.
I call it natural variation. The white powder on the stems disappear when the mushroom has stood in the sun and dried up a bit, or if it's an aging thing... However nothing that point it in the direction of being another species.

You also had a couple of other (broken) photos in your post before you edited it. All were good representations of fresh but dry P. cinctulus. I also looked through your gallery and didn't find anything out of the ordinary, except a few p. papilionaceus and a Conocybe in the bottom of this photo, but in the gallery comment you hinted that you already know those aren't the same species as the others.

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23400836 - 07/01/16 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The stems are much thinner and more fragile, they seem more tapered to me, and the caps are a different texture. The spore prints are both black, so maybe it is just a variant. Amazing how much they differ. Thanks!

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23402711 - 07/01/16 11:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

grr wheres A TI when you need one

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23406927 - 07/03/16 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My "compost pile" is watered daily, you can feel the heat and humidity when you walk on the pile, especially where the grass is growing. Everyday, new shrooms are popping up. Found this last night.

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

[Re: 1secretagent]
#23406954 - 07/03/16 12:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The picture with the horse is where they are growing. It's a very warm compost pile, and I've harvested ALOT of Panaeolus this spring.

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knarkkorven said:
Panaeolus cinctulus

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1secretagent said:
Found this last night.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/lysurus_cruciatus.html

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23406977 - 07/03/16 12:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

..and it STUNK :wink:

Thank-you MidnightCity!!

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23407076 - 07/03/16 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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xzylocybin said:
grr wheres A TI when you need one

You can trust knarkkorven.

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Re: Copelandia (Panaeolus) Cyanescens?

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#23407408 - 07/03/16 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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