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Teemo 6T3
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I had my bets on clone C 
Anyways, what you using instead of polyfil pasty?
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Pastywhyte
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It's micropore tape. I have found a single layer of micropore tape allows for as much air exchange as a loosely stuffed hole. A double layer is about the same as a tight stuffed hole. It takes 2 strips to cover a 1.25" hole, so if I need to up the FAE I simply remove a strip from the upper portion of the bottom holes or move the top hole strips down a bit to expose some of the top hole.
It's a bit different than poly bit I have be experimenting with it a bit. Poly is kinda messy IMO so I have been trying to get away from it for a while now.
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mupetmower
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i might be trying that! i, for one, have a hell of a time stuffing poly into holes. i havent tried on a Mono yet, but for lids and Big Gulps, i suck at it! i never know if it's enough or too much, and it is kinda messy, like you say, in certain situations..
so i may try MP tape for one of my minis that im planning to do in a couple months. might do one with MP taps, one with poly, and then one unmod'd, just tilting the lid. the are most likely going to be a clone culture, so i will sorta be able to tell which will work best for me, with that grow, hopefully.
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Teemo 6T3
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Pastywhyte said: It's micropore tape. I have found a single layer of micropore tape allows for as much air exchange as a loosely stuffed hole. A double layer is about the same as a tight stuffed hole. It takes 2 strips to cover a 1.25" hole, so if I need to up the FAE I simply remove a strip from the upper portion of the bottom holes or move the top hole strips down a bit to expose some of the top hole.
It's a bit different than poly bit I have be experimenting with it a bit. Poly is kinda messy IMO so I have been trying to get away from it for a while now.
Nice, im acctaully doing the same for my hybrid tub
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mupetmower
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shower cap? interesting 
and isnt that actually surgical tape? i was under the impression that they were different, and worked differently.
EDIT - like the "transpore clear surgical tape"
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Teemo 6T3
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Well i guess they're still the same, since they're both somewhat breathable due to the micro pores 
And ye haha the shower cap is awsome, you can pull it out to increase FAE and you can lower it to increase humidity too 
I got the idea from here a while back when i use to roam shroomery
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I love the ease of buckets to work with - so easy to clean and carry around, and you can isolate contams - with the added benefit of keeping gnats at bay...
A cheap shower cap makes a good cover instead of plexi-glass, and can be pulled up or down depending on what stage of growth you are at -


I think pasty would remember this thread otto
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spacechildo
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ottobuckets are pretty sweet, blake had a good thread on it too. I find it harder to get great FAE in them than rectangular tubs tho, seems to me you could benefit from some more air flow in there too.
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Pastywhyte
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His buckets are sweet. I have no issue with those.
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spacechildo
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I have a bunch of buckets that looks like they've been through a war zone and duct taped back together  I see otto and blake amongst other get it right but I simply gave up on getting them perfect and convinced myself circular tubs take up more uneccessary space anyway
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Pastywhyte
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I never grew in a bucket but leaf and cron had some nice ones.
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spacechildo
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leaf's the one who inspired me to go postal on my buckets, if it aint working out try something new.
man, I just cant stay on topic in this thread
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Pastywhyte
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Well back on topic but on a bad note I spotted a Goddamn gnat in my grow room. Was in a different tub but still FML. Gnats are my true nemesis. Summer blues.
So anyways its just one, I am pretty sure about that. So the traps are out and I am gonna be putting the offending tub in another room I think. Got some long term projects that I can't risk over some fucking bugs.
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Pastywhyte
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Teemo 6T3 said: I had my bets on clone C 
Well clone C is looking to be the winner of the poo tubs. Looking this morning and it just exploded overnight. Pics later.
However the clone A looks the best on average. Doing decent on both the coir and the poo. Clone B so far looks like the goat in this race.
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Bigbadwooof
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Pastywhyte said: I believe in the power of clean spawn. Substrate idolators will never see the light of the coming of the Lord. . .

Looks quite interesting, Pasty. If I didn't know better, I would say it was just normal AA+, with some mutations. It's really unfortunate that you don't have access to Jiffy mix up there. I think your tubs would have a much better pin set with peat than coir case. Just my 2 cents. Coir always seems to over colonize, which at least in my climate, leads to shittier pin sets. Maybe I just don't keep it moist enough.
I have learned over the years that clean spawn is everything also. Cronicr said it years ago, and he was right. The key to growing mushrooms is clean spawn, and everything else is peripheral enhancements, such as genetic isolation and whatnot.
99% of the time trich stems from bacterial contamination in my jars, and it took me a while to learn how to identify certain bacterial situations. I used to always blame the bulk sub, or the casing, and that's generally not the problem.
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Edited by Bigbadwooof (07/17/16 03:47 PM)
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dankington
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Pastywhyte said: Well back on topic but on a bad note I spotted a Goddamn gnat in my grow room. Was in a different tub but still FML. Gnats are my true nemesis. Summer blues.
So anyways its just one, I am pretty sure about that. So the traps are out and I am gonna be putting the offending tub in another room I think. Got some long term projects that I can't risk over some fucking bugs.
gnats... I've had a suspicion that those fucks were fucking shit up for me. I don't have many, but there's usually 1-2 in my room at any given time
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Bigbadwooof
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I usually only have gnat problems when I bring outdoor plants indoors. Sometimes if it's real bad I will purchase some nematodes to kill them off. Apple cider vinegar can be useful also.
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Pastywhyte
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I have used peat, just can't buy it here lol. Coir is easier. Granted with the fruit at spawning method the coir tends to be eaten. But I have had plenty of grows where a well timed coir case worked fine. With the fruit at spawning I found peat often gets eaten completely as well
Coir case

To be honest I have found that this variety is prone to consuming the casing and that often the pinset looks worse than it is. Here is an ms 3rd generation grow I did with it.
Pinset:

Harvest time

That tub had some bacteria messing with it yoo so i was shocked at how well it turned out Just gonna have to wait and see lol.
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Bigbadwooof
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Wow, that tub turned out great. If you are ever doing a print giveaway, let me know! They look like AA+, but more solid/dense. Does that sound about accurate? Maybe a bit darker colored too. It doesn't look like it kicks out as many little ones either, which isn't necessarily good or bad, imo.
I did some PE tubs with one of my clones (fruit conditions on spawn day), and cased some with CVG, and some with Peat. The coir case was consumed much faster, and it creates an impenetrable matt, for me, at least in one or two spots. When I mist they just end up with water puddles on top. The peat colonized, but not so bad, and it doesn't always happen.
Just my experience. I love peat with any cube that isn't PE. They don't seem to colonize all the way through, anyway.
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Edited by Bigbadwooof (07/17/16 05:07 PM)
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Snazz
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That's crazy that you don't have access to sphagnum. Canadian product and all :p
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Clone test [Re: Snazz]
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I can get peat just not jiffy. The peat here is usually loaded with sticks and perlite, often it has plant ferts added as well. I do use cactus mix on occasion but it's a lot of messing around. With the bucket I can make enough casing for 4 tubs in 5 min.
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