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Boogieman47
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Registered: 03/05/16
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Still more than all my flushes put together haha it's crazy how big of a difference it is
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Inocuole
Scalpel of Evil's Bane



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Alright Pasty this is the part where the story's over but the kids are still awake so you make up some shit off the top of your head for an epilogue.
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Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



Registered: 09/15/12
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Loc: Canada
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So after the coir substrate proved he was just as big and strong as the stinky ol poop, clone A was munched down by the hungry farmer and his wyfe.
The End
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Boogieman47
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What an epic ending
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herrenvolk


Registered: 05/14/16
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Would that be because poo is more nutritious than coir?
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Pastywhyte
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herrenvolk said: Would that be because poo is more nutritious than coir?
Maybe. Could also be because the coir put out more on the first flush.
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Supalemonhaze
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Registered: 10/02/15
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Marginally though, they seem to have caught up to the coir tubs, at the least. I haven't yet had a grow where the sub was totally spent in a single flush, pretty cool.
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bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
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Even if poo was more nutritional than coir the results show its pretty moot to go through the hassle of pasteurization unless coir is expensive where you live and poo is free.
Yield per effort is more important than yield per cost of supplies when the supplies are dirt cheap regardless
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Pastywhyte
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Supalemonhaze said: Marginally though, they seem to have caught up to the coir tubs, at the least. I haven't yet had a grow where the sub was totally spent in a single flush, pretty cool.
My goal is always to find clones that are spent after one run. Not only do I hate dicking around with dunking etc, but I find I have less interest in second flushes. Also you can get more in one than in six, it's more efficient use of the colonies energy.
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Trusted Cultivator said: Yield per effort is more important than yield per cost of supplies when the supplies are dirt cheap regardless
So this. Even if I pay full price for a brick of coir and even if I bought WBS or even food grade rye, I can build a mono for like 8 bux. That's plenty cheap. Then if I can get grain for free or super cheap, I'm more than happy to spend some cash on coir and verm.
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herrenvolk


Registered: 05/14/16
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Trusted Cultivator said: Even if poo was more nutritional than coir the results show its pretty moot to go through the hassle of pasteurization unless coir is expensive where you live and poo is free.
Yield per effort is more important than yield per cost of supplies when the supplies are dirt cheap regardless
How do you prep your coir? I use coir and pasteurize it anyways. It's only a little bit more effort to do the bucket pasteurization than ye ol' bucket tek. And certainly much easier than sterilizing in jars. If I had a functional oven, then oven pasteurization would be even easier.
Horses are pretty popular in my area though, I might try to get some hpoo some day.
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bodhisatta 
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Registered: 04/30/13
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bucket it. I don't do the muda bucket tek I just boil water and throw it in an igloo cooler with a brick of coir and some verm.
extremely easy
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Pastywhyte
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Sterilizing is faster and easier than proper pasteurization because you don't need to run it as long, 45 min does the trick. Nor do you need to monitor temps. It's also better bang because you can pack the coir in much more, I can sterilize twice as much in 7 jars as I pasteurize.
But the biggest reason I sterilize is because the myc colonizes it better and I feel I get a better yield. I should do that for my next side by side.
However nothing is easier than the bucket if you have a lot of sub to prep. I own 6 buckets and can have them all ready to go in 30 min. That's basically 60 quarts of sub with very little effort.
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bodhisatta 
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I put a pot of 2 quarts on the stove put 1 quart in the microwave and 1 quart in my electric kettle I can have a gallon of water boiling in under 5 minutes to pour in the bucket.
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Hugh Jorgan
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Registered: 09/21/15
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Gee Uncle Pasty you tell the best bedtime Stories!! I agree about the sterilized Coir. The mycelium LOVES it. Those albinos are beautiful. How long have you been working on them?
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Pastywhyte
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Mikehalb said: Those albinos are beautiful. How long have you been working on them?
Feels like forever
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Pastywhyte
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Also if anyone was interested the first flush dry weight for all tubs combined came out to a gram shy of 19 oz. Not my best yields but at an average of 1.58 dry zips per quart of spawn I'm still a pretty happy camper.
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Hugh Jorgan
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Damn nice harvest. You clearly have the touch and the patience it takes to get things dialed in right.
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Supalemonhaze
Spore syringe hater.



Registered: 10/02/15
Posts: 6,725
Loc: 12" down Europe's butthole
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Pastywhyte said:
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Supalemonhaze said: Marginally though, they seem to have caught up to the coir tubs, at the least. I haven't yet had a grow where the sub was totally spent in a single flush, pretty cool.
My goal is always to find clones that are spent after one run. Not only do I hate dicking around with dunking etc, but I find I have less interest in second flushes. Also you can get more in one than in six, it's more efficient use of the colonies energy.
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Trusted Cultivator said: Yield per effort is more important than yield per cost of supplies when the supplies are dirt cheap regardless
So this. Even if I pay full price for a brick of coir and even if I bought WBS or even food grade rye, I can build a mono for like 8 bux. That's plenty cheap. Then if I can get grain for free or super cheap, I'm more than happy to spend some cash on coir and verm.
Yeah, I agree. If you can get most of everything in one flush it's definitely better than having to dunk and take the time waiting for the 2nd flush.
As for bodhi's comment, yield per cost of supplies is very real for folks outside the US. With a national minimum wage of ~4euro/hr and expensive supplies, you just have to find the best deal or none at all. Especially if you like having multiple monos going at one time.
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herrenvolk


Registered: 05/14/16
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Pastywhyte said: Sterilizing is faster and easier than proper pasteurization because you don't need to run it as long, 45 min does the trick. Nor do you need to monitor temps. It's also better bang because you can pack the coir in much more, I can sterilize twice as much in 7 jars as I pasteurize.
But the biggest reason I sterilize is because the myc colonizes it better and I feel I get a better yield. I should do that for my next side by side.
However nothing is easier than the bucket if you have a lot of sub to prep. I own 6 buckets and can have them all ready to go in 30 min. That's basically 60 quarts of sub with very little effort.
Huh, interesting. Loading into jars and and PCing sounds like much more of a hassle to me. But I'll try it for my next tub. How do you do it? Do you get the coir and verm up to field capacity then load it up into jars and then PC 45 min? I've never measured my substrate's volume but it always looked like much more than I could load into 7 jars..
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bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
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Loc: Milky way
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Pack it in
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