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Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA?
    #23398327 - 06/30/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Having tried both quite a few times i think its very hard to debate which is more euphoric and blissful. Too many variables


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz] * 1
    #23398391 - 06/30/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

To me, the best parts of LSD feels better than MDMA but MDMA is more geared toward pleasure, whereas LSD can go both ways.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23398429 - 06/30/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Having tried both quite a few times i think its very hard to debate which is more euphoric and blissful. Too many variables





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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23398474 - 06/30/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Right. Like for me personally i can hold my best moments on lsd over MDMA but this may vary per person. Ive had moments on LSD i literally couldnt CONTROL my body from dancing to certain tracks and LSD has had me borderline orgasming without physical stimulatiom. Hard to say..just wanted to hear some views :smile:


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23398540 - 06/30/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA is without a doubt more euphoric but LSD is more beneficial.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23398550 - 06/30/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You think so? Maybe i should have upped my dose when i was messing with the stuff but i have to take a 6 month break from it atleast.. ive gotten some insanely euphoric moments on LSD IMO. More so when i start embracing it. My last trip i couldnt stop my leg from spasming to the beat of a certain track. It was iminent lol


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz] * 1
    #23398567 - 06/30/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You think so? Maybe i should have upped my dose when i was messing with the stuff but i have to take a 6 month break from it atleast.. ive gotten some insanely euphoric moments on LSD IMO. More so when i start embracing it. My last trip i couldnt stop my leg from spasming to the beat of a certain track. It was iminent lol




Definitely. I've only done LSD on 3 occasions and have done high doses so I have a good feel for it. LSD is a therapy. Ideas, thoughts and feelings change rapidly.

MDMA is just pure orgasm. The higher you dose the more intense it is but then the crash becomes evil and the recovery is much longer.

I've done doses that are considered extremely high and the euphoria is unlike anything I've ever felt on any drug before. It's just sheer euphoria. Consistent and without change right until the end.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23398635 - 06/30/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe ill wait 3-6 months on the mdma and take a bigger dose. Maybe .2-.3g


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23398658 - 06/30/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe ill wait 3-6 months on the mdma and take a bigger dose. Maybe .2-.3g




Well a lot of pills being pressed in the Netherlands are being dosed at 220mg. Now that's already almost double the dose of say a standard 125mg and lets not forget the people that double drop these mind blowing pills. I've done it and I wouldn't do it again but the feeling was out of this world. Intense as fuck but the recovery was evil as was the come down. What goes up must come down. Stay safe.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23398693 - 06/30/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hehe. Ive overcame a cocaine addiction recently completely. Havnt been back. Its the first time dealing with severe comedowns off drugs. My first lesson with that quote. But i just started dabbling in mda/mdma recently. 110 lbs. .125 first time. .125 and 1 tab lsd 2nd time. .15 2 days ago. While the effects were pronounced and i was rolling around in my bed writhing and moaning in pleasure it wasnt "gods high" so to speak. And ive been experiencing tuesday blues since. Taking a break. Maybe when i return ill try a .25. What would that do on 110 lbs with a big tolerqnce break?


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23398715 - 06/30/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

To the OP's question. Hell yes. I have been talking about this for 20 years. "Extacy" never gave me ecstasy like LSD and Mushrooms.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: Liquid Paper]
    #23398892 - 06/30/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shulgin said ecstasy should have been called empathy. It's true, I find that it is much more geared toward human emotions, euphoria, empathy, love, etc, than ecstasy which is a more transcendental experience. Not that you cant have transcendental experiences on MDMA but its more rare.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23398935 - 06/30/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For me LSD is easily more euphoric or at least has the potential to be. In my mind if something has the potential to be more euphoric than another drug then it is more euphoric than that other drug.

Top 3 most euphoric drugs of all time for me (in order) would be:

1. Mushrooms
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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23399684 - 07/01/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've had some extremely surprising blissful on mushroom and LSD that I would say were better than MDMA but it was a totally different thing.

There's nothing more bliss for me than I completely dissolve into something I can't describe and have no narrative thought.
I do love MDMA too though. What I experience from it is different. The empathogen thing is one of my favorite feelings that you don't normally get from psychedelics like you do MDMA. MDMA basically guarantees it. I have got something similar on psychedelics but it's no where near as strong and I have to be in a very good headspace.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23400065 - 07/01/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I always found MDMA more euphoric than LSD. Lsd takes my mind far away and at the same time brings me closer to myself, whereas MDMA is so tactile and such a huge body high as well as mental warmth and pure joy. No thinking about the meaning of anything, just rolling.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: Northerner]
    #23401264 - 07/01/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I always found MDMA more euphoric than LSD. Lsd takes my mind far away and at the same time brings me closer to myself, whereas MDMA is so tactile and such a huge body high as well as mental warmth and pure joy. No thinking about the meaning of anything, just rolling.




That's exactly how it is for me too :smile: - no thinking, just bliss....


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23401275 - 07/01/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Most orgasmic moments I've ever experienced was from a combo of both. The moments lasted > 2 hours too.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23401357 - 07/01/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psychedelic euphoria has always felt more "genuine" to me. MDMA kind of forces it on you and burns out the brain as a result where as mushrooms or pharmayahuasca are actually medicinal and the euphoria can be insane.

One of the last times I tried oral dmt at one point every breath I took was comparable with a full body orgasm :eek: I could literally feel the oxygen spreading through my body and all my cells rejoicing as it hit them.

Easily one of the most profound and euphoric experiences I have ever had and 0 nasty comedown, if anything I felt better afterwards...


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23401379 - 07/01/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA can be incredibly medicinal as well, as is evidenced all the wonderful studies MAPS has been conducting with it. I find MDMA to be way more medicinal/therapeutic than mushrooms, and it's not close.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23401381 - 07/01/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, psychedelic euphoria feels extremely genuine and natural, and can reach unbound levels. I know even just turning on my favorite song on acid puts the biggest god damn smile youve ever seen on my face and I feel extremely blissful. MDMA just makes you feel really nice and smooth to party hardy, but it can't reach those peaks that psychedelics can deliver


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23401399 - 07/01/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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MDMA can be incredibly medicinal as well, as is evidenced all the wonderful studies MAPS has been conducting with it. I find MDMA to be way more medicinal/therapeutic than mushrooms, and it's not close.




I mean in terms of their effects on the brain. If you eat a large MDMA dose you are going to burn your dopamine out to a varying degree.

Where as a large mushroom or aya dose can actually be beneficial to your brain chemistry especially long term.

There was a study showing longterm aya users had more balanced brain chemistry then others, imagine what long term regular MDMA use would do to the brain :lol:


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23401584 - 07/01/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hehe. Ive overcame a cocaine addiction recently completely. Havnt been back. Its the first time dealing with severe comedowns off drugs. My first lesson with that quote. But i just started dabbling in mda/mdma recently. 110 lbs. .125 first time. .125 and 1 tab lsd 2nd time. .15 2 days ago. While the effects were pronounced and i was rolling around in my bed writhing and moaning in pleasure it wasnt "gods high" so to speak. And ive been experiencing tuesday blues since. Taking a break. Maybe when i return ill try a .25. What would that do on 110 lbs with a big tolerqnce break?




That's really good man, good on you for quitting coke. You'd be much better off sticking to Weed, Shrooms, LSD and MDMA when you get the "call" you know?

Regarding the MDMA I'd recommend leaving it as long as you can. Don't over do it, it's always much better when you leave it a few months or more.

I did a candyflip recently LSD + MDMA at the same time, that was really nice you might like that.

A 250mg is gonna have you flying if you take a good break.

To address some other things some said in this thread. I love the feeling of shrooms, it feels nice and organic because it acts primarily on the serotonin pathways. MDMA affects Dopamine and Adrenaline as well as Serotonin so it has a full "package" of "ecstasy" as it were but it's also what makes it feel more "artificial". It's a potent releaser and reuptake inhibitor. That's why it makes you feel drained. But the blast is more potent.

But for me, LSD and Shrooms aren't about enjoying music. Quite the opposite. Music can make me confused when I trip. With MDMA, some hard hitting Electronica on a 250mg is just out of this world. Tripping for me is more of a therapy, MDMA is more for a party. That's my opinion. I've done a lot of MDMA in my life.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23401963 - 07/01/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But for me, LSD and Shrooms aren't about enjoying music.




For me LSD is definitely about enjoying music among other things. It aids in the process of boundary dissolution especially when it comes to psychedelic rock + pot.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23403055 - 07/02/16 04:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But for me, LSD and Shrooms aren't about enjoying music.




For me LSD is definitely about enjoying music among other things. It aids in the process of boundary dissolution especially when it comes to psychedelic rock + pot.





On my next acid trip, I'll revisit the music thing. What sort of music do you like on it? Same stuff you like sober?


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23403540 - 07/02/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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On my next acid trip, I'll revisit the music thing. What sort of music do you like on it? Same stuff you like sober?




Pretty much, but I listen to psychedelic-friendly music typically even sober. I usually just listen to classic/psychedelic rock and so do my friends. Jefferson Airplane, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, various psychedelic rock bands and songs from the 60s.

I don't listen to much rap when tripping and my friend who listens to rap all the time actually gets pissed off when someone plays rap while he's tripping even though that's 90% what he listens to.
Muhrooms + Jefferson Airplane is like a sacrament for us almost, classic even though that's mushrooms.

On my last acid trip we listened to the band Savage Resurrection and it sounded much more profound than I expected.Especially the song Tahitian Melody. On my last mushroom trip we listened to Miles Davis Sketches of Spain album which was pretty sick too.

Ime the psychedelic that had much bigger fish to fry than music appceciatction was shrooms. Mushrooms seems to be too busy dealing with other bigger things. It doesn't always have time or patience for music.
LSD however the experience feels very much about music and art. It's not as ascetic and mushrooms.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23403557 - 07/02/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Forgot about Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd too.

Generally for me the go to is:

Mushrooms: Jefferson Airplane, Led Zeppelin

Acid: Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23404254 - 07/02/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds awesome. Yeah I definitely get you with regards to shrooms and LSD. I've tried music with Shrooms - playlist and everything.... Too out of it to follow along.

LSD has much more potential for sure. I tend to be bombarded with so many thoughts though so it's confusing for me but I'll give it another go. You have similar music tastes to me. All but Jefferson Airplane. Never really spent any time with Jefferson. I'll have to listen to one of their albums.


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23404903 - 07/02/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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LSD has much more potential for sure. I tend to be bombarded with so many thoughts though so it's confusing for me but I'll give it another go.




Ya it's very good on low doses or in the beginning of trips but then again I have had amazing experiences while listening to the Beatles while peaking on LSD. Life changing


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Re: Can LSD cause more orgasmic moments than MDMA? [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23404969 - 07/02/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I luv MDMA but LSD is so much better... and worse :uhoh:


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