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What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside)
    #23398056 - 06/30/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



Well? What do you think about it. I think he is pretty fair about it.

He does not hate homosexuals.
He does not care about sexual preferences.
He is for the greater good.

Just saying not all religious people are downing homosexuals or claiming them to go to hell. It's ridiculous to claim some one is going to hell for being homosexuality, within regards to biblical text. That's besides the point tho, this is about changing the general out look on religion and sexuality.



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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23398411 - 06/30/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)




this guy is amazing. let me find the one where he is pissed about paypal shutting his hate down.

It’s war! You know what the filthy sodomites have done toward our church and us, and our friends and our fellow pastors that actually have the guts to say what needs to be said? Here’s what they’ve done in the last few weeks. They got our PayPal account shut down so that we can’t take anymore online donations. We set up with another company, GivLet, they got that shut down. Qgiv, they got that shut down. BitPay, they got that shut down. They shut down our iTunes podcast. They shut down Brother Jimenez’s PayPal account. They shut down Brother Romero’s PayPal account… The landlord of Pastor Jimenez is saying, ‘hey we’re not going to renew your lease.’ - See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/06/pastor-that-praised-orlando-massacre-punished-by-paypal/#sthash.F4CszwI9.dpuf


this is a good compilation lol



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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23398557 - 06/30/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

is this bill o reilies puppet?


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Konyap]
    #23399710 - 07/01/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

hhhmmmmm...? Are you talking about the guy in the video or me?

Is that the person from fox news?


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23399875 - 07/01/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

nvm I just realized who you were

Prepare the dick ship!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23399905 - 07/01/16 03:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Well? What do you think about it. I think he is pretty fair about it.

He does not hate homosexuals.
He does not care about sexual preferences.
He is for the greater good.




I didnt watch the video, but Im curious what you/he think "the greater good" is?


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Konyap]
    #23399913 - 07/01/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can't really tell if this thread is for real...
I disagree with the guys logic in the first video, and that younger preacher is just funny as hell to watch :lol:


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23399949 - 07/01/16 04:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Most Methodists and Episcopalians are cool with it.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23400038 - 07/01/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Acaterpillar said:
Can't really tell if this thread is for real...
I disagree with the guys logic in the first video, and that younger preacher is just funny as hell to watch :lol:



He's the archetypical extreme homophobe who's really gay.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23400397 - 07/01/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Acaterpillar said:
Can't really tell if this thread is for real...
I disagree with the guys logic in the first video, and that younger preacher is just funny as hell to watch :lol:




It's for real. I made this the same night I made the "Libtard" thread I believe.

I'm a Christian. I like to show people that not every one associates homosexuality with people going to burn in hell.

That man in the first video is highly influential with millions of viewers. He does not damn homosexual's yet you get many many people within religions screaming "Your all going to hell!"

Just wanted to show the Shroomery not every one within at-least Christianity hates homosexuals.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400424 - 07/01/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sure, that guy has nothing against them; he just wants to save them... :rolleyes:
I have plenty of Christian friends and most of them are humble enough to not try to "convert" someone from their sexual preference.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23400468 - 07/01/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I get whatchu mean mane.

You know.. there was this guy in the "why own a gun" thread who repetitively was a bigot and kept trying to convert every one to his political system.. just a couple day's ago.. Your post reminded me of that for some reason. Anyway's I did not expect to see you in this thread. I guess I for get it's not always random people hanging out in the pub hehehe


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400488 - 07/01/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the preacher.

I think it's pretty common that people who are homophobic in an irrational and obsessive manner are compensating and covering up their own gay tendencies.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: koods]
    #23400516 - 07/01/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't been that entertained by a preacher I disagree with in a long time


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400532 - 07/01/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In the UK, there are more Anglicans now in favor of same sex marriage etc than there are that oppose it!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: koods]
    #23400534 - 07/01/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is it possible tho, is there any possibility in your mind (I mean your's not reality- not to be insulting my mind is mine and also not all is reality, not implying that the things you believe may or may not be true in the sense of who's homophobic and who is not) but is it possible that he may actually be good heart'd?

Is it possible that maybe he actually just has love for people and truly believes in the book he read's and the God he serves?
Can any one believe the way he does and not be homophobic, even one person in the world?

Not to dive into this subject but to make it true I believe In the God of Abraham Isaasc and Jacob.

Now the way I'm going to word this is different so it's more understandable what I'm trying to say (I don't want to imply I doubt).

If there is a God and the book is true, does this make those who follow it similar to the man who does in the first video homophobic?

Regardless if he's just following the book and not his own personal want's or even mental need's, if he's just following scripture regardless of what he would rather choose to be or believe would that still make him homophobic?

Can we say that the book- the bible is homophobic?

Remember.. put all that religious teaching aside- denominational -your going to hell for being gay!- bullshit. That's all crap and completely incorrect according to scripture but please be aware of what religious fanatics will tell you otherwise, I believe they- those who curse to hell/ damn-  people/ gay's are full of crap.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Bubbles85]
    #23400544 - 07/01/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The world's changing. Had no idea!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Patlal]
    #23400547 - 07/01/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I haven't been that entertained by a preacher I disagree with in a long time




Which one? I have not watched the other video's the other guy posted yet


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400556 - 07/01/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I haven't been that entertained by a preacher I disagree with in a long time




Which one? I have not watched the other video's the other guy posted yet




will do


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Patlal]
    #23400560 - 07/01/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I did not understand your response lol. I meant which video did you enjoy? The one I posted or the other videos the other member posted? I have not seen the other ones yet myself.. it was late last night. I just woke up today.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400564 - 07/01/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The world's changing. Had no idea!



Some of it is. Some of it also remains stuck in the dark ages!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Patlal]
    #23400567 - 07/01/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, the second guy is a retard.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Patlal]
    #23400569 - 07/01/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why do people care what others put in their mouths anyway?


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Patlal]
    #23400586 - 07/01/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not sure. Since it is a trashy video I'm not going to watch it. It actually annoys me that some one posted trash detouring the whole point of this thread. Very annoying. I wish I could remove those other videos then.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Konyap]
    #23400597 - 07/01/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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nvm I just realized who you were

Prepare the dick ship!




lol, I did not see this text before... Ohhh man that's funny. That episode is just crazy. I know we are off topic now.. but man you brought back old memories of watching that show late at night, hitting the bong. good show, good show.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23400632 - 07/01/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Well? What do you think about it. I think he is pretty fair about it.

He does not hate homosexuals.
He does not care about sexual preferences.
He is for the greater good.




I didnt watch the video, but Im curious what you/he think "the greater good" is?




My bad I did not see your post. While I cannot speak for him, I think he's for people and not against them. He's not about destroying people, discriminating, condemning or inspiring hatred. He's about peace and spreading peace. He encourages those that are anti-gay, those that hate those people to take a second glance at things. There is entire congregations dedicated to damning homosexuals. This man stand's out greatly in the religious community suggesting great love and tolerance for homosexuals.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400770 - 07/01/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a Christian. I like to show people that not every one associates homosexuality with people going to burn in hell.





But the bible does consider it an abomination and a sin, and according to your sig


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23400787 - 07/01/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My preacher would say such shit :shrug:

Besides, I don't believe that anybody can go to Hell, regardless of their sins. I've never understood the "fire and brimstone" approach. I don't feel that it's supported by scripture.

If the only way to live forever is through Jesus, how are you supposed to live forever in Hell? I believe Hell exists strictly for the fallen angels.

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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23400847 - 07/01/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
I'm a Christian. I like to show people that not every one associates homosexuality with people going to burn in hell.





But the bible does consider it an abomination and a sin, and according to your sig





hahah I ahh man only if you read threw my other posts and threads. Not your fault tho I went into posting this knowing my cig would be a issue. I got that there because I thought it was a shocker- a cool cig. Nothing more.

The only thing I see that send's a human spirit to hell is Not accepting Jesus as lord and savior / Romans 10:9 according to the bible. If he paid the price for sin then people still go to hell for sin even after accepting the one and only payment plan to wipe out sin, then what's the point of the sacrifice? It would make it invalid.

Also we can look at at this scripture -

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
James 4:17

So let's say some one is homosexual but they do not see it as wrong. They are deep into the culture and truly believe it is okay. They have never read their bibles but they happen to get born again. This mean's being homosexual is not a sin to them nor a abomination to them.

James is speaking to Christians in chapter 4.

Besides all that tho.. your rather saved by grace or a sinner, according to scripture you can't be both.

So homosexual or not.. Saved by grace or a sinner. You can't be a sinner and saved by grace..


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400863 - 07/01/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Um, yes you can. We're all sinners, dude. That's the entire point of Jesus dying on the cross


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23400874 - 07/01/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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My preacher would say such shit :shrug:

Besides, I don't believe that anybody can go to Hell, regardless of their sins. I've never understood the "fire and brimstone" approach. I don't feel that it's supported by scripture.

If the only way to live forever is through Jesus, how are you supposed to live forever in Hell? I believe Hell exists strictly for the fallen angels.

Sorry for the rambling :lol: I'm all fucked up




Don't get me wrong. I like hearing a good "Your going to hell sermon!" every few years because it sounds powerful and is entertaining but I don't think a many of them are accurate since most of them are actually directed at Christians. lol.

They may actually mean when they say "Your going to hell!" they may mean "Your going the wrong direction in life". Along with calling every one trash.lol.

I'm not to sure actually. I do know some of those sermons are entertaining.

Check out this "Go to hell" segment of a sermon, from the same guy in the original post.

It's a different style but pretty good! It's so funny man lol.



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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23400884 - 07/01/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Um, yes you can. We're all sinners, dude. That's the entire point of Jesus dying on the cross




I mean your welcome to quote scripture. I'm not going to try to convince you. I posted what I believe you can post what you believe. Please don't try to convince me other wise tho lol.

However I do enjoy hearing other views and such. So you are welcome to post scriptures and maybe we can trade biblical information together.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400890 - 07/01/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah, I can't lie, I do love the charisma of that style of preacher


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23400897 - 07/01/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So you're not a sinner? You've never sinned? You're perfect and don't need Jesus's forgiveness?

Good for you. You're the only one to ever exist. The rest of us aren't so lucky. The rest of us need salvation.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23400909 - 07/01/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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So you're not a sinner? You've never sinned? You're perfect and don't need Jesus's forgiveness?

Good for you. You're the only one to ever exist. The rest of us aren't so lucky. The rest of us need salvation.




hey hey hey. I'm not angry at you Mr. lol

I did not mean to come off as of never having sinned. I mess up every day man!

What I'm referencing to is this -

We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin.

Romans 6:6 New Living Translation

It's salvation ya know.

Regardless I don't mind that we see the term's differently or use them differently. Were both still Christians! When I hear people call me a sinner to me it seem's like their saying "Your not a Christian your going to hell!" but I realize it's just a terminology difference. We just use different terms!

Yes! That guy is a great preacher isn't he! He's pretty funny!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400922 - 07/01/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well I can dig that. I suppose we just use the word sinner differently. Like you said, I fuck up everyday. So I consider myself a sinner.

But luckily, I am washed in the blood of my savior. I try to do better everyday, but I still fuck up. Thankfully, my Lord is a forgiving Lord


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23400923 - 07/01/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not sure. Since it is a trashy video I'm not going to watch it. It actually annoys me that some one posted trash detouring the whole point of this thread. Very annoying. I wish I could remove those other videos then.



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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23401013 - 07/01/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Alright alright.. if you want me to watch it I will :grin:


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23401014 - 07/01/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes..Thank God for forgiveness. Life is great man!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23401074 - 07/01/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ain't that the truth,  brother


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #23401558 - 07/01/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Most Methodists and Episcopalians are cool with it.





because they're a bunch of fags and dick suckers

baptists are fine with homosexuality as long as it's a couple of women going at it


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23401805 - 07/01/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

baptist bottom boys, oh the brief days of my youth in the south ha


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23401903 - 07/01/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Didn't Jesus eat a :mushroom2: and then become gay?  There's no record of him having sex with a woman. :shrug:


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23402073 - 07/01/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Most Methodists and Episcopalians are cool with it.





because they're a bunch of fags and dick suckers

baptists are fine with homosexuality as long as it's a couple of women going at it




See..the guy in the video is not cool with homosexuality but he is cool with homosexuals. Kind of like hate the sin but not the sinner type of thing.

Hate homosexuality but do not hate the homosexual(s).


I just wanted to post this thread to raise awareness towards the fact that not all religious pull want to kill gay's or damn them to hell. The guy in the video for example is about helping them better their selves.

So many religious people damn homosexuals that they wont come to church. A good church would say with a big sign out front "Welcoming Pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers, criminals of all types, homosexuals, gays of any types.. " so on and so on.

Instead they just damn them all to hell! Jesus died for the ungodly and they qualify! I qualified! Anyone who has become a Christian qualified. All the un-Godly qualify.

anyways.. anyways.. I don't mean to get off track here.. That man has millions of viewers across the entire nation. The whole point of this thread is to let people know not all Christians are claiming them to go to hell.. not all Christians want them dead or damned or are hate them. That's the point of this thread.. not my personal beliefs. ughhh sorry if I'm not to clear, I just got off work.. they were giving free soda the entire night.. I drank way to many.. it's terrible.. unlimited soda that is if you decide to chug all you can mwhahaha... I'm feeling better tho, more and more!


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23402941 - 07/02/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That man has millions of viewers across the entire nation. The whole point of this thread is to let people know not all Christians are claiming them to go to hell.. not all Christians want them dead or damned or are hate them.



I've known some Christians who took this angle while trying to "convert" some gay people and it didn't seem genuine to me.
Kind of like "I don't hate you, but if you don't follow my instructions you're going to eternally burn."
Sure brother, real compassionate :rolleyes:


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23402970 - 07/02/16 02:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yea i didn't want to respond to his post in depth but hate the sin love the sinner is a big mutual fuck you. like who i fuck is even relevant to if i wanted to believe in Christianity

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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23403527 - 07/02/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That man has millions of viewers across the entire nation. The whole point of this thread is to let people know not all Christians are claiming them to go to hell.. not all Christians want them dead or damned or are hate them.



I've known some Christians who took this angle while trying to "convert" some gay people and it didn't seem genuine to me.
Kind of like "I don't hate you, but if you don't follow my instructions you're going to eternally burn."
Sure brother, real compassionate :rolleyes:




In my situation for example, I'm not actively trying to convert people. I see gay people every day and honestly I'm not thinking to my self "Ohhh how can I get them saved!". Should I be as a Christian? I think the answer would be yes but that mainly means just praying for people not talking to them or getting involved 99% of the time.

I also am not trying to damn people to hell! Just being honest here...

So the point i'm making here is not all Christians care if some one is gay or not, we don't all think gay people are going to burn in hell.

So if Christian people believe in a man like this in the video you see.. They might get the same views as him. They might say "Yea.. gay people don't have to go to hell if they get born again. They can get born again and stay gay."; "If they choose to change their sexual preferences later, well then that's between them and God".

What I'm saying is for millions of viewers to see this video is something else! Entire congregations are dedicated towards damning gay people to hell. This man on the television has spread a amazing message "Were not going to damn you! We don't hate you! If you go to hell it's your choice not ours and it has nothing to do with you being gay!"

Compare this to your typical congregation of "Your all going to hell! All you fags will burn!".

Get positive about this man!lol :tongue:


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23403639 - 07/02/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The problem is that you're implying they can stay gay, but they need to stop having sex with men.
That's like asking a straight man to stop having sex with women.
It's not going to happen, and it's a bit insulting that you are even pushing the idea.

People don't choose their sexual preference, it's largely conditioning at a young age; and is near damn impossible to change once it's set.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23404306 - 07/02/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The problem is that you're implying they can stay gay, but they need to stop having sex with men.
That's like asking a straight man to stop having sex with women.
It's not going to happen, and it's a bit insulting that you are even pushing the idea.

People don't choose their sexual preference, it's largely conditioning at a young age; and is near damn impossible to change once it's set.




I never said that. I would like to request a quote :grin:

The man in the video never said that, that I'm aware of but if you pull the time (tell me which part of the video he say's that) I will re evaluate the situation. I still think it's great not damning gay people to hell. When he say's "Are you?" Implying that it's their choice even tho the person he is saying it to is gay.

He even say's the spirit of God tell's him not to care about their sexual preferences that the man in the video could not change it anyways! From my understanding it's just all about getting the person saved or born again!

I became a Christian and I still use drugs every single day. If I can do that they can become a Christian and and have sex with men every single day. Sin is sin, as far as I'm concerned the sin of having sex with a man or the sin of using a drug every day is all the same to me personally. Sorry for any miss understandings about the subject.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23408712 - 07/03/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Implied means it was never directly stated....
If the guy didn't care about people's sexual preference he wouldn't be talking about it in his sermon.

Also, drug use and sexual preference are not equivalent.
You using a drug to get high is not the same as someone following their natural sexual urges. There are parallels, sure, but they certainly aren't equivalent.


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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23409062 - 07/04/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Implied means it was never directly stated....
If the guy didn't care about people's sexual preference he wouldn't be talking about it in his sermon.

Also, drug use and sexual preference are not equivalent.
You using a drug to get high is not the same as someone following their natural sexual urges. There are parallels, sure, but they certainly aren't equivalent.




Under my beliefs I see sin as sin. For example I would compare the sin of murder to being just as equivalent to the sin of running a stop sign or giving some one the middle finger.

Also what is sin to me may not be sin to others (from what I believe). This belief system I have is similar to the man's in the video I have noticed after seeing more of his videos, in the sense of what we think of sin.

He's a preacher and the bible concerns of sin, if he is preaching from the book he may have been in Roman's chapter 1 verse 26 for example but since the video provides content that of which is out of context from the entire sermon I guess neither of us can say otherwise unless viewed in context.

He also was telling a story of something that happened to him in real life. Why should a person keep a story like that secret and hidden? What is there to hide?

I do think he did imply that he cared about sexual preference in the video but he declares that the spirit of God told him not to care about sexual preferences. If he is obedient to the God he serves he should no longer care about sexual preferences.

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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23409089 - 07/04/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: What do preachers say about homosexuality? (video inside) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23409095 - 07/04/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting. How does he plan to handle the lake of fire? hahahah.

I view Satan as of being the weakest form of "life" that there is. So weak that it's called "dead" or death, in his raw form as he is.

However also I like to take note of this scripture:

And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

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