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Supalemonhaze
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Any idea what we can use in the EU as a solvent? Pretty sure if I say naptha to my lab supply guy he will give me the wierdest of looks.
Teks I've been reading don't mention fume hoods btw, I reckon it's safe enough without.
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mupetmower
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i have seen things here in the US that say paint thinner and they are indeed naptha. but then again, ive heard the same thing about it not being the same. so who knows. guess it really just depends on what the brand is and what they put in the can/bottle. I believe when a buddy and I were doing an extraction a long time ago, we used something that was labeled paint thinner, because the method said it was the same.
but i would just buy some online if i was to do an extract, now. wouldnt wanna fuck it up.
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Supalemonhaze
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mupetmower said: i have seen things here in the US that say paint thinner and they are indeed naptha. but then again, ive heard the same thing about it not being the same. so who knows. guess it really just depends on what the brand is and what they put in the can/bottle. I believe when a buddy and I were doing an extraction a long time ago, we used something that was labeled paint thinner, because the method said it was the same.
but i would just buy some online if i was to do an extract, now. wouldnt wanna fuck it up.
Thing is that naptha is not called naptha in europe and you can't buy flammable shit over ebay, so that is not happening. Even if you could though, shipping wouldn't be worth it. I would very much rather buy something similiar locally. For example, in the US they use naptha/paint thinner for lanterns but lantern fuel over here is kind of a flammable oil.
I guess I will just ask around here and there to see what europeans are using. I want to try DMT.
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mupetmower
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oh wow, crazy haha..
yeah thats something ive been wanting to do as well. I loved the few times ive gotten to do DMT. its so amazing.
but, im not 100% sure on the legality of getting M. hostilis or acasia root bark shipped over here.. if i knew it would still be ok(because a friend and i had something similar shipped like 8 years ago) then i would already have it, but im too worried about it because i never found a definitive answer when researching about it. it seems like since it is a precursor that it would be illegal. but then there are other things that would be considered the same with you can get shipped. so i just dont know. too worried about it haha.
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Supalemonhaze
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I know shroomerites who live in the US that still import MHRB(using their credit card and house address). Spores are the "precursor" for shrooms, are they not? You're not scared to buy those, are you?
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well yeah, i thought the same thing, but i still dont know. i mean, i know it probably wouldnt be a problem.. but still scary. especially when you have felonies growing in your house =p
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I used swan lighter fluid. the results were harsh to smoke but worked. by fuck did they work
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: keeno]
#23393072 - 06/29/16 05:10 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Would that be similiar/the same as zippo lighter fluid?
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keeno
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yup
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: keeno]
#23393139 - 06/29/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to know, thanks!
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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Tipote]
#23393296 - 06/29/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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deagle5 said: Huh separate weights? It goes to 15 psi as standard I'm sure. Haven't actually used it yet tho mind. Need to sort out some plates or LC first so I can then do a large batch and shoot those babies all up!
well i wasn't sure if i would need the weights. if it stays at 15psi then thats fine obviously. I was just unsure about how much it would need to be monitored.
yeh i'm looking forward to a grow. waiting to pc some jars ready for G2G from the 4 colonising jars I have.
Goes to 15psi and runs like a beauty
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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: deagle5]
#23396602 - 06/30/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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deagle5 said: Goes to 15psi and runs like a beauty 
yeh its excellent! very happy with it!

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Supalemonhaze said: Any idea what we can use in the EU as a solvent? Pretty sure if I say naptha to my lab supply guy he will give me the wierdest of looks.
I get cans of naphtha in work, labelled as such and referred to as such. I understood it to be the same as zippo lighter fluid, smells, looks and works like it. We have cans of zippo lighter fluid as its easier to store and use than a big 5L can. We use it for cleaning stuff.
Reading wiki it seems it is a broad term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha
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Naphtha (/ˈnæpθə/ or /ˈnæfθə/) is a general term that has been used for over two thousand years to refer to flammable liquid hydrocarbon mixtures. Mixtures labelled naphtha have been produced from natural gas condensates, petroleum distillates, and the distillation of coal tar and peat. It is used differently in different industries and regions to refer to gross products like crude oil or refined products such as kerosene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_warmer#Lighter_fuel
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Lighter fuel hand-warmers use lighter fluid (petroleum naptha)
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: blackout]
#23396894 - 06/30/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, the wiki is very unhelpful when it comes to naptha. Zippo lighter fluid isn't at all a problem to find but I've read that whatever is labelled as naphta in the US is not the same as lighter fluid. I read that lighter fluid can work but the best thing to use would be what they call as naptha. Maybe I should try a very small batch (50g MHRB maybe?) with lighter fluid to see how it goes before risking a whole batch of rootbark.
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mupetmower
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on one of the extraction methods i read, it did mention that if you cant find Naptha by name, that zippo fluid was fine to use.
I just need to find a source for MHRB from within the US, so i can try it myself =\
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I wouldn't use zippo lighter fluid, it leaves residue when you evaporate it. Leave some in a clean glass and see for yourself. Freeze precipitating is the way to go if you're going to use it, but I wouldn't risk it myself.
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Supalemonhaze said:
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mupetmower said: i have seen things here in the US that say paint thinner and they are indeed naptha. but then again, ive heard the same thing about it not being the same. so who knows. guess it really just depends on what the brand is and what they put in the can/bottle. I believe when a buddy and I were doing an extraction a long time ago, we used something that was labeled paint thinner, because the method said it was the same.
but i would just buy some online if i was to do an extract, now. wouldnt wanna fuck it up.
Thing is that naptha is not called naptha in europe and you can't buy flammable shit over ebay, so that is not happening. Even if you could though, shipping wouldn't be worth it. I would very much rather buy something similiar locally. For example, in the US they use naptha/paint thinner for lanterns but lantern fuel over here is kind of a flammable oil.
I guess I will just ask around here and there to see what europeans are using. I want to try DMT.
I'm in Europe I buy plenty naptha toluene methanol isopropanol on eBay amazon etc and naptha is called naptha here? Easiest things to use are acacia confusa white viniger caustic soda hexane and a freezer hexane is the best solvent in a this extraction way more selective than shitty naptha, hexane only pulls the desired product use hexane after the naptha pull (swan lighter fluid in euro zone)
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mupetmower
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so youre saying that hexane is better? from just a quick look-up it would appear that when trying to find haxane, it would be really easy to get the wrong solvent, and that it is super expensive compared to naptha.
in the near future, I will be planning on trying this method: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Cybs'_Hybrid_ATB_'Salt'_Tek
I will be using his recommendation of naptha,, though. pretty much my only problem is finding MHRB or Acacia in the states.
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Edited by mupetmower (06/30/16 12:17 PM)
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Is it sooooo better but yes more expensive but you don't need to use much it only pulls DMT naptha pulls DMT nmt and other less desirable products you should use naptha first once you have your goo/crystals then pour on warmed (only slightly as this shit boils away like crazy) hexane which will pull the dmt from the goo then precipitate from hexane to get very high quality crystals with very little harshness from the smoke
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Edited by mrmazdarx9 (06/30/16 12:24 PM)
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mupetmower
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yeah, from what i can tell, with a quick search, naphtha can be bought for like $18 for a gallon, while hexane is something like $96 for a liter. also, it just seems so easy to accidentally get the wrong thing. when i search to purchase hexane, there are so many options of seemingly slightly different "hexane" with different chemical structures, or something.
I would really love to know what the guy in the method i linked ACTUALLY used himself for the extraction. when you search to purchase Naphtha, there are a few that actually do have naphtha in the name, such as these, which do, in fact, say they are paint thinner.
so, once i find MHRB, ill just be getting one of these, and going for it with that tek i linked. seems like it isnt too difficult.
I also wonder about this, in his thing he says you can omit the acidification steps, and just start straight to base. wondering if that affects yields significantly or not. guess it wouldnt hurt or take much more time to just do the complete steps.
EDIT - im not too worried about having super pure product, really. its just for personal. he also does add an extra step in the end, where you take the yield from after doing 4-5 pulls and then run it over with warmed naphtha and it will pull higher quality product. but, its not a completely necessary step.
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Edited by mupetmower (06/30/16 12:29 PM)
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