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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23398346 - 06/30/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They have a straight up metal tree in a mcdonalds parking lot in LA that intercepts cell phone data and transmits it to the government. There were two people at the top repairing it even XD.

There are a lot of these around more populated areas.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: dixienormous]
    #23398361 - 06/30/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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dixienormous said:
They have a straight up metal tree in a mcdonalds parking lot in LA that intercepts cell phone data and transmits it to the government. There were two people at the top repairing it even XD.

There are a lot of these around more populated areas.



That's a bit far-fetched just on the basis that is completely unnecessary in order to intercept or record a phone call or text. Several laws allow then access to that information already, no?


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23398407 - 06/30/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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clock_of_omens said:
I never had to read 1984 in high school. Not every school does the exact same thing. I had to read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged in my AP English class. How many people had to read those bricks? Probably not many.



Ugh wtf. Ayn Rand isn't exactly literature.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23398414 - 06/30/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It was made as a future dystopian fiction but then the government turned it into a handbook :frown:


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23398417 - 06/30/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont give a fuck about a single murder victim. Im not willing to give up my security and privacy for the life of a single person. Its something I dont want, and I dont give a fuck about the appeal to fear. Murders are gonna happen regardless, rapes are gonna happen regardless. You wanna impact their numbers build a better society, dont build up government powers.




Tough. Don't carry a phone that can pinpoint your every move, every minute of the day then.
Your choise.

Being able to track down such scumbags are an attempt to "build a better society" if they can catch the 'perp' and lock the fucker up before he can make more victims.

I don't give a flying fuck about your privacy. I have children and grand children, that I want to be protected as much as possible, and if you losing your poxy privacy is the cost, then tough shit.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: deucedbi9] * 2
    #23398427 - 06/30/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck your grandkids. Thats my phone, I bought it, and you aint got a right to shit.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: dixienormous]
    #23398443 - 06/30/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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dixienormous said:
They have a straight up metal tree in a mcdonalds parking lot in LA that intercepts cell phone data and transmits it to the government. There were two people at the top repairing it even XD.

There are a lot of these around more populated areas.



those are just cell towers they dress up so they don't look so shitty. they are all over.

and yes the nsa can get anything anyways, they don't need special towers.

hopefully the tech world continues to try and retain some privacy.


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InvisiblePatrickKn
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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23398509 - 06/30/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well adoption of encryption technology has sped up a bit as a result the NSA related leaks. Eventually encryption will be at a point where it's both standards for all communications and uncrackable at the same time.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: koods] * 1
    #23398766 - 06/30/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
Congrats OP, now you can graduate the 8th grade.





you're an asshole


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23398798 - 06/30/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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ReposadoXochipilli said:
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dixienormous said:
They have a straight up metal tree in a mcdonalds parking lot in LA that intercepts cell phone data and transmits it to the government. There were two people at the top repairing it even XD.

There are a lot of these around more populated areas.



those are just cell towers they dress up so they don't look so shitty. they are all over.

and yes the nsa can get anything anyways, they don't need special towers.





Yeah.... no.

http://www.newsweek.com/what-cell-ls-those-ominous-phony-towers-268589
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-big-secret-surrounding-stingray-surveillance/
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/194271-us-government-uses-fake-cell-towers-flown-on-airplanes-to-harvest-phone-data-and-track-down-criminals
http://www.businessinsider.com/mysterious-fake-cellphone-towers-2014-9
http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/mysterious-phony-cell-towers-could-be-intercepting-your-calls


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23398810 - 06/30/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thats the whole basis of the stingray device law enforcement deploys. It mimics a cell towers carrier signal and cracks your phone wide open. No warrants required. Theyre starting to get darkly intrusive, and in times of economic hardship I doubt such powers will be used for good. If history is anything to go by.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23398834 - 06/30/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Whats your thoughts on the cryptophone 500 btw? you're into this shit, whats the most secure phone money can buy and what can I do to combat this?


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Patlal]
    #23398932 - 06/30/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't give a shit who is watching. The neighbor is probably looking in my window right now!


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23398946 - 06/30/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Thats the whole basis of the stingray device law enforcement deploys. It mimics a cell towers carrier signal and cracks your phone wide open. No warrants required. Theyre starting to get darkly intrusive, and in times of economic hardship I doubt such powers will be used for good. If history is anything to go by.




Unfortunately governments have no reason to abide by laws intended to curb their "martial law" powers, there was a time when governors might be dragged through the streets covered in tar while their houses burned. Those times are past in the West.

Pacifism is integral to the whole politically correct spectrum.
Oligarch's must love it.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Shroomism]
    #23398960 - 06/30/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
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ReposadoXochipilli said:
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dixienormous said:
They have a straight up metal tree in a mcdonalds parking lot in LA that intercepts cell phone data and transmits it to the government. There were two people at the top repairing it even XD.

There are a lot of these around more populated areas.



those are just cell towers they dress up so they don't look so shitty. they are all over.

and yes the nsa can get anything anyways, they don't need special towers.





Yeah.... no.

http://www.newsweek.com/what-cell-ls-those-ominous-phony-towers-268589
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-big-secret-surrounding-stingray-surveillance/
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/194271-us-government-uses-fake-cell-towers-flown-on-airplanes-to-harvest-phone-data-and-track-down-criminals
http://www.businessinsider.com/mysterious-fake-cellphone-towers-2014-9
http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/mysterious-phony-cell-towers-could-be-intercepting-your-calls



Well shit. I stand corrected.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23399014 - 06/30/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Thats the whole basis of the stingray device law enforcement deploys. It mimics a cell towers carrier signal and cracks your phone wide open. No warrants required. Theyre starting to get darkly intrusive, and in times of economic hardship I doubt such powers will be used for good. If history is anything to go by.




Unfortunately governments have no reason to abide by laws intended to curb their "martial law" powers, there was a time when governors might be dragged through the streets covered in tar while their houses burned. Those times are past in the West.

Pacifism is integral to the whole politically correct spectrum.
Oligarch's must love it.




They arnt beyond the reach of the mob, they only maintain that illusion. Reaching out and striking them would take skill but they are vulnerable. They bleed the same as everyone else. Even their state address's could be interrupted by the efforts of a single person. The buildings themselves arnt hardened, a heavy homemade missile with a considerable payload could be launched from the city and take out their entire entourage. their percieved invulnerability is nothing more then a facade. Personally I'd do it if I lived in the states, being immortalized in infamy would bring me no greater pleasure. Pussy's cant even handle being blasted in a residential building, can you imagine the demoralization an attack on their embassy on state soil would have? They would be crippled. Not only their image but their perception of the mass's. Motherfuckers would be scared.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Patlal]
    #23399023 - 06/30/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
What a mind fuck that book is. I now understand why they called that guy a genius.

All I can say is wow. Completely fucked up but wow. It just leaves you thinking "what if?"

A literary gem. Especially for those with an interest in politics and society. The concepts he brings forth are very well thought up. To a point where you wonder if they are fiction of a possible reality.

10/10

Who read  it?
What are your thoughts about it?

Be careful what you answer though. Big Brother is watching.




great book. you might like animal farm as well!


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23399072 - 06/30/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Repertoire89 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Thats the whole basis of the stingray device law enforcement deploys. It mimics a cell towers carrier signal and cracks your phone wide open. No warrants required. Theyre starting to get darkly intrusive, and in times of economic hardship I doubt such powers will be used for good. If history is anything to go by.




Unfortunately governments have no reason to abide by laws intended to curb their "martial law" powers, there was a time when governors might be dragged through the streets covered in tar while their houses burned. Those times are past in the West.

Pacifism is integral to the whole politically correct spectrum.
Oligarch's must love it.




They arnt beyond the reach of the mob, they only maintain that illusion. Reaching out and striking them would take skill but they are vulnerable. They bleed the same as everyone else. Even their state address's could be interrupted by the efforts of a single person. The buildings themselves arnt hardened, a heavy homemade missile with a considerable payload could be launched from the city and take out their entire entourage. their percieved invulnerability is nothing more then a facade. Personally I'd do it if I lived in the states, being immortalized in infamy would bring me no greater pleasure. Pussy's cant even handle being blasted in a residential building, can you imagine the demoralization an attack on their embassy on state soil would have? They would be crippled. Not only their image but their perception of the mass's. Motherfuckers would be scared.




I agree that the oligarch's can be touched, in my opinion it is much easier today than ever.
Back in the day you would essentially have to ambush them and their badass body guards close range.

The West is too soft now for any of that, we're stuck with what we have until the next World War, plague or famine. If this generation revolted, I would probably side with the government as the lesser of two evils.


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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Exotica1]
    #23399087 - 06/30/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

read it 17 years ago. Since that time I've been determined to be oldspeak to the fullest. There's 1.2 million words in the English vocabulary, and I haven't the foggiest how many is in my vernacular.

Boards of Canada summed up the message of 1984 in this song at the end of Music has the right to children:



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Re: I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #23399095 - 06/30/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

current political terminology is soo 1984. war is peace


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