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Invisiblerelic
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ID, Panaeolus sp in VA
    #23396922 - 06/30/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

growing on a pretty fresh 300# pile of horse dung i piled in my yard a few weeks ago in the interest of doing some experiments and maybe catching an active Pan species out of the blue.

gills look typical of P. cinctulus to this noob

stipe is lighter at the bottom, growing darker near the top, is about 5mm in diameter, and has vertical lines that spiral around the stem.

pileus is hygrophanous and leaves a distinct darker colored band around the edge upon drying

print is a very heavy jet black

no bruising anywhere on the specimen


crappy in situ pic of immature specimen




gills before printing




gills after printing




RH print was done for only four hours and the LH print ran about 20 hours







and a couple pics of a trippy thing i accidentally found when i turned a pretty hot LED flashlight on that heavy, jet black LH print:




and some closer views:




this is just a Panaeolus cinctulus, right?


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: relic] * 1
    #23396961 - 06/30/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

wow

I assume that is aluminum foil?  Clean not repurposed?  I doubt that would be a chemical reaction with aluminum.  Is it 'permanent' in that it shows up the same (or gets bigger or smaller)?  I assume you are using a super-brite white light LED flashlight?

Yeah, I would suspect that is a Cinct.  I would do a time lapse video of that pile to see what comes up.

I am tempted to go pick some foes and do a test like that.


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: Gilzman]
    #23397031 - 06/30/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

it is aluminum foil and was freshly torn from a new roll.

my impression was that the colored area is where the print was wet.  i watched it over a 15 min period and it didn't appreciably change, which was really weird to me. 

the flashlight is about 110 lumens and is a little 3" long rechargeable that has a dc charger built into one end so you can charge/leave it in a car.  its about 2.5 times brighter than my ten year old tikka headlamp and this flashlight is indeed a bright white.

i've had two or three different inky cap species come up in that pile so far.  beginning five days ago, i watered the pile with about five gallons of well water between the hours of 2200-2400 every day that we didn't have a decent thunderstorm...then this species popped up on the fifth day.


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: relic] * 1
    #23397049 - 06/30/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty cool little experiment you got going there relic.:popcorn:


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23397107 - 06/30/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

thx, Thayendanegea.  i wondered if something interesting would spontaneously pop up and sure enough it did!

if you see this again, are you finding any chants in your spots yet?  i've never targeted that species but did go out one time--on July 4th last year coincidentally enough--with the purpose of finding some and found exactly one specimen.

might make time to try again this weekend.


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: relic]
    #23397441 - 06/30/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I found 1 or 2 the other evening. I usually start really looking around the 4th of July while I am out reishi foraging. Found a lot the last couple years...mostly growing on hillsides of mountain hollows. They are yummy...I like them as much as morels...plus, they're purdy when you cook them with almost anything.



It's kind of a crappy pic but you get the idea.


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23400466 - 07/01/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

v nice.  i'm starving so crappy pic or not it's making my mouth water.

i think i need to take a look around this weekend.  my find on July 4th last year was actually in a little copse of woods on the shore of lake anna in central VA...only about 50 meters from the waterline, under some oaks, in a mulch bed.

it had a glorious scent.


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: relic]
    #23400889 - 07/01/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I would be curious if you took a cloth and wiped the spores away from the metal, would the colors also be removed (under the LED light)?  That is, is it the spores that are colored or perhaps the metal somehow?


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Re: ID, Panaeolus sp in VA [Re: Gilzman]
    #23416843 - 07/06/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i sealed that print and stashed it, but might be getting it back out soon and will give it a swab to see what happens.

i bet it was a function of being wet and extra thick in that spot, but 15 mins or so that i watched it wasn't long enough to dry (if wetness was the cause).

will let you know when i bust it open.


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