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Synchronicity/Awakening
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Synchronicity, it's pretty common in the early stages of "awakening" common occurrences are number sequencing and coincidences, a feeling of connection without knowing where the connection came from - its just your awareness beginning to recognize patterns within the matrix(dimensions/parallels) - everything that ever will or could happen already has, the present moment past and the future are all one.
- Synchronicity is just a way of life for me now. You may be entering the early stages of awakening/entering the 4th dimension and leaving the materialistic world into the magical world when you realize that nothing of materialism(anything physical) really does not matter to any part of your well being. You realize the physical world is just a plane for experience.
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path We will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize That all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"
Signs of 4th dimension awakening include regaining awareness of intuition, 11:11, repeating numbers reappearing, empathic traits and increased feeling of all emotion.
If you've ever broken through on DMT and experienced what is known as "nirvana" that is the 6th dimension, from there is where wisdom is attained, a realm of pure love and light and I am currently in the process of fully merging into the 5th dimension as human stresses leave my body, there is no longer any fear anxiety or worry, as every day I am guided by an eternal and internal confidence of my souls passion and journey, light and love is the only remaining guiding force left in my physical body, to stay in balance and my circle of humans I associate myself with is very important as you gain sensitivity and awareness as you grow.
Love transcends the dimensions Love is the connecting force(energy) or glue which keep the dimensions in tact To embrace love is to be light
I no longer seek wisdom, or anything from psychedelics. I am to just be, I am to just provide the love and light of my soul, in this dimension there is no fear, you are fully confident in your souls desires and journey
I'm going to continue to believe time and time again as it is proven to me through seeing and feeling.
And I will continue to grow and feel more connected and happier than I ever have in my life, I will continue to gain awareness and continue to emit love. My life continues to grow excitingly and breathtakingly beautiful, and in the least of the sense magical.
You guys could get a lot of help by just keeping an open mind, unless you continue to want to be a sheeple in the pack, I know most of you don't want to be considered "crazy" but I stand for what I believe in, and time and time again it has proven to myself true for years now, the people that awaken quickly are just more sensitive and aware, this isn't new age mumbo jumbo shit as it will be appearing in reality as we evolve as a species in the future anyway.
The entire planet is awakening at the moment at an exponential rate, you could have probably guessed it mainly started in 2012 and from there has just been exponentially growing globally and consciously. If you don't at least keep an open mind to this information you are no better than the rest of the unawakened pack. And if you're not catching onto what I'm saying you're just not at my level yet, it's okay though because everyone grows at their own rate on their path.
I put a lot more time into it than the average person, at least take what I say into consideration, as new technology and era will eventually stem from these new age phenomena, it can all be proven scientifically and metaphysically, quantum engineering/mechanics. Get to reading boys and girls. Or don't your call.
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Yup, same.
Except this Quote:
"My life continues to grow excitingly and breathtakingly beautiful, and in the least of the sense magical. "
What do you mean by the last part?
What's wrong with magic? What again is the dif between magic and miracles?
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: yeah]
#23396779 - 06/30/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I meant by that, if its not beautiful, exciting or breathtaking one moment I will be lost in the magic the next moment.
There is nothing wrong with magic, the dif between magic and miracles is magic can be used in this realm with intent, miracles happen in this realm but are guided by a power greater than us. There's not much difference
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ah, I get what you mean now. I guess I can't disagree with that.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: yeah]
#23398533 - 06/30/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yup. Like flowers we unfold. Human consciousness is evolving.
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Boys and girls? You had me until that. Your words are nice, very nice. I am not a believer in you, or anyone, at this time. To preach to me means nothing other than for you to try to sell me. You are insecure, otherwise there would be zero need to convince.
Then the boys and girls comment. Wow. You really lost me there. Condescending bull shit.
Here, let me tell you since you preached to me. Look up, breathe deep, suck in some aluminum, then tell me how you feel. Boys and girls, look up, suck in some fake clouds, ain't it great?
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Sounds harsh over text huh, I always forget my sarcasm and sense of humor don't convey too well through screens 
I'm not preaching anything, if it came across that way forgive me.
I already know and have belief within myself, there is no need to convince just inspire teach and my main motive is to further open the mind of people beginning this path, and all possibilities.
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Eclipse3130 said: Sounds harsh over text huh, I always forget my sarcasm and sense of humor don't convey too well through screens 
I'm not preaching anything, if it came across that way forgive me.
I already know and have belief within myself, there is no need to convince just inspire teach and my main motive is to further open the mind of people beginning this path, and all possibilities.
No, it's preaching. The same promise of a new world and new age without any proof. There's no science behind it, and if you're citing quantum engineering then you really have no clue. People fail to understand quantum mechanics applies only on the micro level, not to the macro level. Of course it wouldn't be complete without the condescending tone. I've heard it all before.
Ultimately this is just self righteous nonsense. Everyone knows this planet and mankind is likely doomed. Those who are old are lucky, they won't be around to see it.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
#23399302 - 06/30/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you ever experienced synchronicity? Genuinely curious.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
#23399392 - 06/30/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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? ? I'm not promising anything or even saying this is true at all, I'm just posting what I believe for like minded individuals. You're taking it like some sort of truth when really there is no public scientific data to back it up yet, that's why its important to keep an open mind to the information, at the very least. It's a phenomena not too many people experience, and the majority of the ones that don't are the ones who keep a closed mind to it, and first of all does not believe anything is possible.
The "new age" and the "new world" starts within your self, it's about self discovery, self growth, rediscovering our innate human abilities as simple as empathy and intuition and through science medicine and meditation you awaken to your inner world, its not a societal movement, it's a global phenomena of expanding consciousness and it starts with you.
Would it change anything without your perspective of a "condescending" tone? No, you would still feel the same, you're quick to attack, it makes me ponder your mindfulness. I don't even know how you can relate any type of tone or emotion through a screen either, you got me beat.
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Penelope_Tree said: Have you ever experienced synchronicity? Genuinely curious.
Would it honestly change anything?
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Eclipse3130 said: ? ? I'm not promising anything or even saying this is true at all, I'm just posting what I believe for like minded individuals. You're taking it like some sort of truth when really there is no public scientific data to back it up yet, that's why its important to keep an open mind to the information, at the very least. It's a phenomena not too many people experience, and the majority of the ones that don't are the ones who keep a closed mind to it, and first of all does not believe anything is possible.
The "new age" and the "new world" starts within your self, it's about self discovery, self growth, rediscovering our innate human abilities as simple as empathy and intuition and through science medicine and meditation you awaken to your inner world, its not a societal movement, it's a global phenomena of expanding consciousness and it starts with you.
Would it change anything without your perspective of a "condescending" tone? No, you would still feel the same, you're quick to attack, it makes me ponder your mindfulness. I don't even know how you can relate any type of tone or emotion through a screen either, you got me beat.
I keep an open mind, but that doesn't mean accepting things I read as true. I know people say a lot and think things to be a certain way. But you take it to be close mindedness when someone doesn't believe you.
I recognize that maybe such states are the result of other causes. Most people who are on about "expanding consciousness" are usually full of it in my experience. I focus on more practical solutions than such pie in the sky concepts.
I find it strange that people who experience such things don't question and just accept them. But that's neither here nor there.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
#23399475 - 06/30/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I enjoyed your thoughtful response. and I respect your style of thinking, but yes keeping an open mind you should never accept anything as truth until it can be proven, but being open to the information allows you to ponder within what you do currently know and experience, it expands your thought process.
But yes that is what I have also always told myself to keep me "sane" I tell myself this:
"Keep an open mind, do not fully committ to being confident in your decisions for what you can not PROVE true to your self and others through fact/science"
I have proven it true to my self time and time again through seeing and feeling, through my perception of reality, connecting with pattern recognition over years of time, I believe because its a reaccuring pattern in my life, it never ends - this only provides a new perspective to my reality though, not to an outsider I am just waiting on the scientific and metaphysical data to come out.
It's the same as a mystical experience, if you've ever had one. I know some people cannot accept the fact that there is an infinite number of realities hidden beneath our perception. It would be quite hard to "convince" a random, average person, just people in the psychedelic community tend to have an open mind because they have been opened to greater possibilities shown through their experiences. I'm not trying to convince anything as it will ultimately be up to you in the end, all I am doing is providing some interesting phenomena and ask for an open mind.
If you've ever taken a psychedelic you would know your current perception of reality, is not the only one you can or may have.
And the discovery of all these connections begin to appear in your life as you begin to purify your self and move into a realm of love and light - it first starts with an open, loving mind and heart from there belief in yourself is all you need.
I need to do more reading as it lies within the realm of metaphysics, law of attraction and manifestation
The belief suggested by quantum theory and by reports of synchronous events that matter and consciousness interact, is far from new. Synchronicity reveals the meaningful connections between the subjective and objective world. Synchronistic events provide an immediate religious experience as a direct encounter with the compensatory patterning of events in nature as a whole, both inwardly and outwardly.
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I also know how fallible the human mind and perception can be, and that to be sure of yourself based on personal experience is a dangerous way to live.
Your so called experiences have been shown to be affected by the brain. I read of a study that showed how tampering with a specific area of the brain was able to induce an altered visual state.
You should also know the human mind seeks patterns even where none exist. It's in its nature to do that. Mystical experiences may feel real, but so do a lot of things. If there's one thing magicians and illusionists know is how to fool human perception and how fallible it is. Also given how there are visual illusions, auditory, touch, even scent illusions, trusting personal experience becomes less and less solid. I believe the plura for anecdote is "not data". In short, you cannot trust yourself. You cannot even prove reality to be real.
If you wait on the scientific data to show it, you will wait an eternity. But people will believe what they want to believe, history has shown that to be true. But I don't think you understand what it means to have an open mind. Science is open, with proof. A personal account doesn't cut it, given how fallible human senses are and memory as well.
Science also acknowledges the possibility of other realities, but that's honestly not on the top of their list of priorities. Our own surivival overrides that. But they didn't need visions to see that.
You place too much value in what you see and experience, even knowing how fallible you are.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
#23399711 - 07/01/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally I don't care what people choose to believe as long as they don't harass others or harm them.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
#23399802 - 07/01/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eclipse is an excellent poster, I'm glad he's around. 
One thing is, though, somehow the Buddhas made themselves in contant motion in their minds.
Because even you identify with the Unborn Self, you won't feel so great laying around like say Maharshi did.
You have to push into the Mystery.
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Thanatos10 said: Ultimately this is just self righteous nonsense. Everyone knows this planet and mankind is likely doomed. Those who are old are lucky, they won't be around to see it.
Fuck off to a doctor and see if you can get some anti-depressants or something.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: viktor]
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Yeah mate I mean that's more or less my sentiments.
But I mean I think he's probably a nice guy under it, from what I can sense.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: viktor]
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Thanatos10 said: Ultimately this is just self righteous nonsense. Everyone knows this planet and mankind is likely doomed. Those who are old are lucky, they won't be around to see it.
Fuck off to a doctor and see if you can get some anti-depressants or something.
Get your head out of the clouds, we are doomed as a species.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
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Penelope_Tree said: Have you ever experienced synchronicity? Genuinely curious.
Would it honestly change anything?
That is for you to decide.
This all reminds me of one of my absolute favorite episodes of Radiolab, which explores meaning, the space where science and synchronicity collide, and why it may be right to hold two opposing world views at once. You may listen here: http://www.radiolab.org/story/haunted/
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beforethedawn said: Yeah mate I mean that's more or less my sentiments.
But I mean I think he's probably a nice guy under it, from what I can sense.

Yeah he seems like a thoughtful guy, just stuck in a rut of repetitive crap. I've been in one and anti-depressants worked for me.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said: I also know how fallible the human mind and perception can be, and that to be sure of yourself based on personal experience is a dangerous way to live.
Your so called experiences have been shown to be affected by the brain. I read of a study that showed how tampering with a specific area of the brain was able to induce an altered visual state.
You should also know the human mind seeks patterns even where none exist. It's in its nature to do that. Mystical experiences may feel real, but so do a lot of things. If there's one thing magicians and illusionists know is how to fool human perception and how fallible it is. Also given how there are visual illusions, auditory, touch, even scent illusions, trusting personal experience becomes less and less solid. I believe the plura for anecdote is "not data". In short, you cannot trust yourself. You cannot even prove reality to be real.
If you wait on the scientific data to show it, you will wait an eternity. But people will believe what they want to believe, history has shown that to be true. But I don't think you understand what it means to have an open mind. Science is open, with proof. A personal account doesn't cut it, given how fallible human senses are and memory as well.
Science also acknowledges the possibility of other realities, but that's honestly not on the top of their list of priorities. Our own surivival overrides that. But they didn't need visions to see that.
You place too much value in what you see and experience, even knowing how fallible you are.
Theres alot of stuff science cant explain. Many fields within science theorize on metaphysical occurences, but so many are beyond the scope of science...
If i notice events that are linked and apply the label "synchronicity", then it is. To me. This is my reality. Science would have a hard time proving synchronicity but i m sure its not too far behind.
As for not being able to trust yourself, ouch. Thats rough bro. I can read all day about how the feeling of romantic love is associated with chemical release in the brain, or psychological comfort patterns, or proximity or whatever...but if youve ever fallen so deeply in love with a woman, or had your heart ripped and shitted on, or anything in between, then you know that science is missing quite a bit.
See, i can trust science for shit like the boiling point if water, pressure systems, physics, anatomy, etc...but if you think that science is the end all explanation to life, then man youre missing a big chunk of the picture.
For inner and metaphysical/mystical concepts experience is often times the only tool. If you cant trust yourself, your own perception of things, then your reality is influenced largely from outside sources. Thats rough man.
For instance, you said earlier "mankind is doomed"...waking up with this in mind, your day might go a little differently than your neighbor who wakes up with "cool, lets see what today has in store".
You shape your reality, wether you take responsibility for that or not. Thats real.
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Regarding synchronicity, the same rules apply...
If you notice theres 7 cars stopped at the light on 7thstreet, the cd player is on track 7 and its 7:07 pm, and proceed to think "well this is a sign! Imgoing to get a 7$ raise at work!" you may be dissapointed.
If you just watch all this stuff, these little coincidences, and not apply judgement, youll be pleasantly surprised.
For me, when im at my best, these things are more noticeable and obvious. They stack up on eachother all day, and each one makes me happier and brighter like a rising peak! The connection is obvious to me. Synchronicities to me, are like signs on the road that remind me im on track. And they are readily available should i choose to view them.
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Thanatos10 said: I also know how fallible the human mind and perception can be, and that to be sure of yourself based on personal experience is a dangerous way to live.
Your so called experiences have been shown to be affected by the brain. I read of a study that showed how tampering with a specific area of the brain was able to induce an altered visual state.
You should also know the human mind seeks patterns even where none exist. It's in its nature to do that. Mystical experiences may feel real, but so do a lot of things. If there's one thing magicians and illusionists know is how to fool human perception and how fallible it is. Also given how there are visual illusions, auditory, touch, even scent illusions, trusting personal experience becomes less and less solid. I believe the plura for anecdote is "not data". In short, you cannot trust yourself. You cannot even prove reality to be real.
If you wait on the scientific data to show it, you will wait an eternity. But people will believe what they want to believe, history has shown that to be true. But I don't think you understand what it means to have an open mind. Science is open, with proof. A personal account doesn't cut it, given how fallible human senses are and memory as well.
Science also acknowledges the possibility of other realities, but that's honestly not on the top of their list of priorities. Our own surivival overrides that. But they didn't need visions to see that.
You place too much value in what you see and experience, even knowing how fallible you are.
Theres alot of stuff science cant explain. Many fields within science theorize on metaphysical occurences, but so many are beyond the scope of science...
If i notice events that are linked and apply the label "synchronicity", then it is. To me. This is my reality. Science would have a hard time proving synchronicity but i m sure its not too far behind.
As for not being able to trust yourself, ouch. Thats rough bro. I can read all day about how the feeling of romantic love is associated with chemical release in the brain, or psychological comfort patterns, or proximity or whatever...but if youve ever fallen so deeply in love with a woman, or had your heart ripped and shitted on, or anything in between, then you know that science is missing quite a bit.
See, i can trust science for shit like the boiling point if water, pressure systems, physics, anatomy, etc...but if you think that science is the end all explanation to life, then man youre missing a big chunk of the picture.
For inner and metaphysical/mystical concepts experience is often times the only tool. If you cant trust yourself, your own perception of things, then your reality is influenced largely from outside sources. Thats rough man.
For instance, you said earlier "mankind is doomed"...waking up with this in mind, your day might go a little differently than your neighbor who wakes up with "cool, lets see what today has in store".
You shape your reality, wether you take responsibility for that or not. Thats real.
It's a reality everyone has to face; man is likely doomed.
Trusting yourself is in fact quite fallible as you tend to be the worst judge of things. Memory is fallible and so are our senses. They know the sensation of falling in love is chemical and something humans place too much importance on, which is quite damaging. It's what causes people to do stupid things. Trusting yourself is a romantic idea based on many movies, but the reality is that you can't. Your senses can lie, your thoughts, even your experience. People here trust themselves too much knowing all that.
For the record our reality is influenced by outside sources. The sensory data you get from the world as well as the thoughts and words of others. Even where you grew up and the culture your surrounded by. So in a sense you don't shape your reality as much as the outside world and other factors do. The fact that one is human with fallible senses and mind is a factor beyond your control. Also where one grows up.
As for synchronicity, there's nothing to indicate it exists and that it's not just the mind seeking to make patterns out of everything that occurs. You could just be seeing things and feel like there is a connection when there is none. Just like conspiracy theorists. Events are random and within that is the possibility of things lining up for ones benefit; but we take it as a "sign" because it gives a sense of order to a chaotic world.
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Universaleyeni said: Regarding synchronicity, the same rules apply...
If you notice theres 7 cars stopped at the light on 7thstreet, the cd player is on track 7 and its 7:07 pm, and proceed to think "well this is a sign! Imgoing to get a 7$ raise at work!" you may be dissapointed.
If you just watch all this stuff, these little coincidences, and not apply judgement, youll be pleasantly surprised.
For me, when im at my best, these things are more noticeable and obvious. They stack up on eachother all day, and each one makes me happier and brighter like a rising peak! The connection is obvious to me. Synchronicities to me, are like signs on the road that remind me im on track. And they are readily available should i choose to view them.
Or it could just be your mind making patterns where none exist. You can just be taking chances that just work out. Or a string of good decisions. Nothing there would suggest the existence of synchronicity.
The word for it is called confirmation bias. Something humans are very good at.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Thanatos10]
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I hear ya Thanatos, and i agree with some of it. I respect your point of view.
Reality is influenced by the outside world, but to what extent? I think that part is up to the individual. As you know society has standards of beauty, intelligence, status, etc..should my opinions be based on this?
For practical reasons: im not arguing that we shape our reality by saying: "today will not rain, traffic will be light, and everyone i encounter will be super nice to me."
Im arguing that we shape our reality with our emotional judgement by saying: "this rain is beautiful vs pain in the ass, this traffic sucks vs chance to space out, that guy is an asshole vs poor guy is having a bad day."
Should i reference a science book for understanding the mystical experience? Maybe if i want quantifiable data to supplement my understanding of the experience. Not to define it for me though.
Im curious, have you ever been in love? Have you ever tripped? Have you ever had a deep psychedelic experience? Mystical experience? In no way do i ask these questions to be a dick. I d just be amazed to read that you have, and that its all reduced to scientific data.
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Universaleyeni said: I hear ya Thanatos, and i agree with some of it. I respect your point of view.
Reality is influenced by the outside world, but to what extent? I think that part is up to the individual. As you know society has standards of beauty, intelligence, status, etc..should my opinions be based on this?
For practical reasons: im not arguing that we shape our reality by saying: "today will not rain, traffic will be light, and everyone i encounter will be super nice to me."
Im arguing that we shape our reality with our emotional judgement by saying: "this rain is beautiful vs pain in the ass, this traffic sucks vs chance to space out, that guy is an asshole vs poor guy is having a bad day."
Should i reference a science book for understanding the mystical experience? Maybe if i want quantifiable data to supplement my understanding of the experience. Not to define it for me though.
Im curious, have you ever been in love? Have you ever tripped? Have you ever had a deep psychedelic experience? Mystical experience? In no way do i ask these questions to be a dick. I d just be amazed to read that you have, and that its all reduced to scientific data.
I have had a few experiences, but now instead of accepting them as mystical and the like I try to consider other options that seem more realistic. Love and such things may feel and seem mystical when you don't open your mind to other reasons. We know love is chemical, that's the powerful overtaking. Current science can also explain some mysticism as misconception.
But I find people here place too much importance on their own experience, without the possibility that they can be wrong or deluded. That experience overrides everything else. To me that's a dangerous notion to have.
And that shaping you talk is just changing your view point or way of thinking. But people make it seem mystical by using terms like "transmuting emotion" or "energy". When in fact it's as simple as considering another take and which is more beneficial.
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Thanatos10 said: But I find people here place too much importance on their own experience...
I understand what you are saying, but in the end, what do we have but our own experience to determine anything? In truth, we're all just going on faith that anything has anything to do with anything. Appeals to science do indeed fall into this category, ultimately.
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Great replies, I thought they were all very interesting and I was provided perspective from each one.
In the end, we all believe what we want, it creates our reality, I don't say this shit anywhere besides to people of like minded, open minded individuals, well because let's face it, the normal person wouldn't have a clue what im talking about, because you guys have experienced what it means to be open minded, at some point in your life 
And no, its not something I FULLY committ to as it cant be FULLY proven, thatd be stupid. I keep an open mind, and I keep my personal experiences close to my heart.
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Thanatos10 said: But I find people here place too much importance on their own experience...
I understand what you are saying, but in the end, what do we have but our own experience to determine anything? In truth, we're all just going on faith that anything has anything to do with anything. Appeals to science do indeed fall into this category, ultimately.
Sad but true and one of the bitter pills one must swallow in science. It's imperfect but the best we can do with what we know.
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Eclipse3130 said: I don't say this shit anywhere besides to people of like minded, open minded individuals, well because let's face it, the normal person wouldn't have a clue what im talking about...
I thought we were the normal ones 
To Thanatos, same way we shouldnt place all the weight on experience, it may be equally enclosing to place all weight on science. I believe the truth lies in the ways these different vantage points complement each other.
As for love being chemical...what came first the chicken or the egg?
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Well considering "normal" is just a standard accepted way of living and thinking relating to the majority of a society and population, sounds boring!
And to be considered "crazy" within a society is when ones mind/thoughts begin to ponder what is more than what they perceive within just their basic senses and awareness. Seems more so like a proficient way of thinking rather than going "crazy"
The word crazy is only shunned because you want to still be accepted by the people who love you, and your friends associates, if you have belief in your self, and self love. You don't give a shit what anyone has to say about you.
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Yes that "normal" is pretty lame and missing out on a lot if not all.
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Penelope_Tree said: Have you ever experienced synchronicity? Genuinely curious.
Would it honestly change anything?
That is for you to decide.
This all reminds me of one of my absolute favorite episodes of Radiolab, which explores meaning, the space where science and synchronicity collide, and why it may be right to hold two opposing world views at once. You may listen here: http://www.radiolab.org/story/haunted/
Radiolab is great. I haven't listened to that one yet, but I find being able to integrate seemingly contradictory ideas, to hold them in superposition, is a lovely sort of mental yoga. Embrace the paradox.
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Thanatos we can't actually die. The body is inside imagination, it's also part of the environment, and is not You. You are Unborn.
Besides it's all a story and it will turn around soon.
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beforethedawn said: Thanatos we can't actually die. The body is inside imagination, it's also part of the environment, and is not You. You are Unborn.
Besides it's all a story and it will turn around soon.
Actually we can. It's called the heart stopping, brain ceasing to function, and the body decomposing. That's death as much as I know. After that you got me.
But yes, we do die. Anything else is more to assuage the death anxiety that plagues everyone.
And it's not a story where you can just rewrite it. It's real life. Overpopulation is going to be an issue facing us and will likely be our end without a plan. The prognosis for humans grows grimmer every day.
It would be interesting to see what comes after humans, but that's another discussion.
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I believe I read from Jung something which stated that synchronicity in ones life, was a sign you're on the right path, any thoughts on this people?
I know when I first began down the path of awakening after a life changing experience in 2009, I started to experience them everywhere, still do.
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Thanatos10 said: Actually we can. It's called the heart stopping, brain ceasing to function, and the body decomposing. That's death as much as I know. After that you got me.
But yes, we do die. Anything else is more to assuage the death anxiety that plagues everyone.
And it's not a story where you can just rewrite it. It's real life. Overpopulation is going to be an issue facing us and will likely be our end without a plan. The prognosis for humans grows grimmer every day.
It would be interesting to see what comes after humans, but that's another discussion.
It's like Icelander never left. All we need is for Thanatos to start talking about how great it would be to kill himself and it will be just like the old days.
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