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redgreenvines
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Bill_Oreilly
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Eclipse3130 said: To go insane you would have to abuse and or misuse psychedelics, for someone to go insane just from a couple moderate doses is very uncommon.
Yeah but for someone to achieve ecstasy on just a couple of doses is rare as well. In order to get good you need experience. But before you get to the level of understanding you want it could make you crazy.
Its a risk. Drugs are risky.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: Snazz]
#23404330 - 07/02/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Snazz said: Psychedelics are the short path to what monks and yogi are capable after many decades of training. Meditation and sensory deprivation are tools too.
Knowledge may be gained and shared, but understanding is for each of us to learn ourselves 
Yes mostly, but IME there is no "short path". The actions of psychedelics are somewhat similar to what meditation achieves but differs considerably in many respects. I've no motivation to study meditation side effects intensively, but I am motivated to study tripping side effects. Reality incursions and physical anomalies, direct communication from apparent nature intelligences, weather control, suspension of probability...this list goes on and it goes very deep. It all says something very interesting about the nature of reality, because it happens in the real world - or at least in a real world that's considerably larger than the ordinary one. Documenting this reality takes considerable care in constructing proper experimental controls and observational methods. When you're dealing with something that never occurs when observed by ordinary consciousness teasing out evidence is complex. Add to that it takes massive doses repeated at short intervals and a complete willingness to see where it leads and you can see why little if no research has ever been carried out. My journal entries have more details on some of it.
Buddhist manuals on awakening warn you against getting fixated on siddhis - supernormal powers. Not so much that they are dangerous or unnatural, just that they are not the point and can serve as an impediment to progress. Yet (of course) in the West there's an immense fascination with just such things, as if they were the end-goal.
And so obviously a lot of people get a little ways along the path and decide they somehow arrived at the end. There is no end. 
The Road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23404937 - 07/02/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychs are like driving a car and meditation is like walking.
The car is just better but walking will never go out of style because of how natural it is
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PrimalSoup
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I enjoy driving with mushrooms quite a lot. But of course nobody should do that.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23405885 - 07/03/16 01:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I enjoy driving with mushrooms quite a lot. But of course nobody should do that. 
do you enjoy driving WITH them or ON them. there is a big difference
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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PrimalSoup
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On them, by all means. I know it's OT.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23408215 - 07/03/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Walking isn't objectively worse in this metaphor.
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PrimalSoup
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Biking is cool too.
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Bomb Diggity
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23409160 - 07/04/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Biking is very good, travel at a good speed, while still seeing all the sights and wonders one might miss by driving really fast in a car. Balance is key, sometimes it's nice to drive and fly. Sometimes it's really nice to walk slow and take it all in, one step at a time... Travel is travel.. as long as you're heading the right direction
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Eclipse3130
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Was blessed recently as a high Monk/Siddhi/Yogi appeared in my life displaying supernatural powers furthering my "awakening" was quite the incorporation as I have never experienced this magic in first person, but always knew it was possible!
He returns to say, "I only choose good teachers."
What a blessing in disguise
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SyzygisticSoul
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Great read Eclipse!!! Truly enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing those wise words
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joemolloy
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Eclipse3130 said: Was blessed recently as a high Monk/Siddhi/Yogi appeared in my life displaying supernatural powers furthering my "awakening" was quite the incorporation as I have never experienced this magic in first person, but always knew it was possible!
He returns to say, "I only choose good teachers."
What a blessing in disguise 
Astounding. Please tell us about the supernatural powers. I suspect one of you is a liar and the other a fool. You can deduce which is which.
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: joemolloy]
#23456337 - 07/19/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahhh...So nice to see you around again. Lol...you're warm and fuzzy commentary has been missed...especially since ZIG passed away.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: joemolloy]
#23456440 - 07/19/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can suspect whatever you like young one
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PrimalSoup
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JForce
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23456486 - 07/19/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread basically sums up new-agebullshit. How's this for a spiritual idea: you're going to die- Grand equalization. None of these bullshit stories get through that gate (not even this one).
We're just passing symbols around and we generate all the meaning. No belief is real, its just bullshit we cling to so we can feel significant. Significance is a lie we tell ourselves to make it seem like anything "matters" and ward away thoughts of death.
At least there's 1 or 2 guys in here directly confronting bullshit. If there's any real "awakening" its tossing your ideas about awakening out the window so you stop wasting so much energy chasing belief
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: JForce]
#23456515 - 07/19/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's just new age terminology, and its use seems to have worked, as most of you know what I am saying. The words I use are nothing but mere text on a screen.
The point is to keep an open mind, not belief until it happens to you(seeing and feeling) I incorporate my reality from seeing and feeling, after all it's our only reliable senses.
These ideas, morals and perspectives are not new, they have been around since ancient times. It's just new to the Western World, so new and unheard of in fact, people go as far to close off their minds to any information.
But you are free as a bird to live your life however you please, as are we all.

an open mind is an infinitely expanding mind.
There is an infinite number of possibilities, anything is truly possible in time.
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JForce
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Eclipse3130 said: It's just new age terminology, and its use seems to have worked, as most of you know what I am saying. The words I use are nothing but mere text on a screen.
The point is to keep an open mind, not belief until it happens to you(seeing and feeling) I incorporate my reality from seeing and feeling, after all it's our only reliable senses.
These ideas, morals and perspectives are not new, they have been around since ancient times. It's just new to the Western World.
But you are free as a bird to live your life however you please, as are we all.

an open mind is an infinitely expanding mind.
It's just new age terminology, and its use seems to have worked What't the use? Use is contextual, do you have some end-game concept here or are you just buying into ideas like "raising vibration?" think about it.
Keep an open mind... why? So you can incorporate reality. Okay, then what? have you really thought this whole "journey" out to its extremes? I can see and feel too, didn't need an open mind for that miracle
Of course we're all free to do whatever... are we? I don't really want to jump into a free will debate here but for the life of me I can't figure out how my arm moves. Seriously spend a minute trying to find out how YOU move your arm. Pay close attention its freaky
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Bomb Diggity
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Re: Synchronicity/Awakening [Re: JForce]
#23458154 - 07/20/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I find that life flows most smooth when I avoid thinking too much on the why's and how's, and instead just be. Just "feeling", which isn't really the right word, it's most accurate, but that which is felt is beyond tactile sensation.. Tis more of "felt understanding". Especially in regards to these "synchronicities" which are felt in a powerful way, a positive reassuring way as if there is a ray of starlight smiles gleamimg down on me joyously from beyone the periphreals of experience.. But yknow, my "beliefs" and "feelings" are my own. I experience my own "reality" personally, subjectivly, seperate from any one elses perception.
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