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blazejesus
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Psychedelic Awareness
#23396250 - 06/30/16 03:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty much any normal person I mention psychedelics to will say something like "that stuff fries your brain" or "I know someone who went crazy from that stuff" or something to that extent. It seems like most people in society don't even have a slight idea how powerful or interesting the experience is, it's like the need to fear it is hard wired into your brain from birth. Anybody here really feel that strong conviction to "turn on the world"? Do you think a society where everyone is on acid would really be a lot better than how things currently are? Guess I'm just wondering if the majority of psychonauts really feel that way, or if its more of a personal use thing for most people.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23396273 - 06/30/16 03:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A non-biased society would be a much better one than what exists presently, but yeah I feel the same way, only if it was considered an affective therapy like it once was, it wouldn't be considered such a childish thing from the majority.
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Psychedelics will be back in medicine very soon, probably within the next 5 years.
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My boat isnt big enough to carry the world across the waters of reality.
There is room enough only for those who I know through true love.
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blazejesus
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Eclipse3130 said: Psychedelics will be back in medicine very soon, probably within the next 5 years.
not sure if it'll happen in 5 years but yea I agree, pretty soon they'll come back in medicine. Acid Test by Tom Schroder is a really good book on psychedelics and medicine, don't really agree with everything he says but most of it is pretty on par.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23396640 - 06/30/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not hard wired into peoples brains 'from birth'
It's hard wired through societal conditioning.
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blazejesus
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#23398725 - 06/30/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trypto-Fan said: It's not hard wired into peoples brains 'from birth'
It's hard wired through societal conditioning.
What I mean is you're taught to think a certain way from the moment you're born. I'm not trying to say we're born like we are now
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23398900 - 06/30/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Society doesn't need to be "on acid" they just need to take the psychedelic maybe once or twice or on a continuum like once every year or 2.
I think society should just be on Ayahuasca and Psilocybin though, no other hallucinogens.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23399239 - 06/30/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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blazejesus said: Pretty much any normal person I mention psychedelics to will say something like "that stuff fries your brain" or "I know someone who went crazy from that stuff" or something to that extent. It seems like most people in society don't even have a slight idea how powerful or interesting the experience is, it's like the need to fear it is hard wired into your brain from birth. Anybody here really feel that strong conviction to "turn on the world"? Do you think a society where everyone is on acid would really be a lot better than how things currently are? Guess I'm just wondering if the majority of psychonauts really feel that way, or if its more of a personal use thing for most people.
I almost never talk about psychedelics to normal people. You can tell the difference right away.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23399340 - 06/30/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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blazejesus said: Pretty much any normal person I mention psychedelics to will say something like "that stuff fries your brain" or "I know someone who went crazy from that stuff" or something to that extent. It seems like most people in society don't even have a slight idea how powerful or interesting the experience is, it's like the need to fear it is hard wired into your brain from birth. Anybody here really feel that strong conviction to "turn on the world"? Do you think a society where everyone is on acid would really be a lot better than how things currently are? Guess I'm just wondering if the majority of psychonauts really feel that way, or if its more of a personal use thing for most people.
I almost never talk about psychedelics to normal people. You can tell the difference right away. 
Yea I totally agree, you can tell instantly.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23399819 - 07/01/16 02:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I first started tripping all I wanted to do was convert the world with my newfound knowledge. I soon realized that most of the world is brainwashed and retarded. It's much easier to talk about this stuff to people who love and understand you, because they won't think you're some crazed hippy spewing horse shit.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: Bluntlock] 1
#23399856 - 07/01/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bluntlock said: When I first started tripping all I wanted to do was convert the world with my newfound knowledge. I soon realized that most of the world is brainwashed and retarded. It's much easier to talk about this stuff to people who love and understand you, because they won't think you're some crazed hippy spewing horse shit.
Ive only been able to turn on a few people, like a few close friends and my girlfriend. Some people that I show psychedelics too are just like "wow that was crazy" and that's it, like it isn't groundbreaking to them and it didn't change them at all which is super surprising to me.
I think the level of intensity of the experience may have something to do with intelligence, like some people are so dumb that even after dosing they don't see any new truths. Some people don't have deeper areas in their mind that they can reach. Like what's on the surface for them is really all there is. These kinds of people scare the hell outta me haha
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23400216 - 07/01/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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blazejesus said:
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Bluntlock said: When I first started tripping all I wanted to do was convert the world with my newfound knowledge. I soon realized that most of the world is brainwashed and retarded. It's much easier to talk about this stuff to people who love and understand you, because they won't think you're some crazed hippy spewing horse shit.
Ive only been able to turn on a few people, like a few close friends and my girlfriend. Some people that I show psychedelics too are just like "wow that was crazy" and that's it, like it isn't groundbreaking to them and it didn't change them at all which is super surprising to me.
I think the level of intensity of the experience may have something to do with intelligence, like some people are so dumb that even after dosing they don't see any new truths. Some people don't have deeper areas in their mind that they can reach. Like what's on the surface for them is really all there is. These kinds of people scare the hell outta me haha
I think its the set and setting that has alot to do with the people who arent awakened by the experience.
When i give an inexperienced person a dose, i recommend they take it alone, in the comfort of home, or a safe natural setting. With water, fruits, and music nearby. This way they can just lay there and go deeeep far out. No distractions, just the inner voyage.
Its just not the same experience when youre at your "boys" place with acquaintance non trippers and noise around.
Also, many people glimpse the infinite briefly, but it causes too much static in their mind to actually follow through and apply awakening.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23400307 - 07/01/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm into psychedelics just recently, although the interest was there since a long time. First time I took them mushies I was a bit afraid because of the aforementioned stereotypes and fears. But know... WOW, since I know what a wonderful, powerful and brilliant experience this is, I consider it a gift from the universe. When I trip, I have such a deep longing for my true friends to be there and share this with me. So I let them know, that I grew the mushrooms and that I enjoy taking them... but one totally ignored it (probably thinking "Now he's finally gone crazy...") and the other shows no interest whatsoever. I'm a bit sad but actually ok with this, since when it's over I am always glad I was alone in the end. But I will not advertise it to them again or anyone else for that matter. The way I see it is, I showed them this door, offered them this experience and thats it, nothing more I can or should do.
But yeah... I still would so like to share these moments of utter peacefulness and absolute empathy with a like-minded person.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23400416 - 07/01/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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blazejesus said:
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PrimalSoup said:
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blazejesus said: Pretty much any normal person I mention psychedelics to will say something like "that stuff fries your brain" or "I know someone who went crazy from that stuff" or something to that extent. It seems like most people in society don't even have a slight idea how powerful or interesting the experience is, it's like the need to fear it is hard wired into your brain from birth. Anybody here really feel that strong conviction to "turn on the world"? Do you think a society where everyone is on acid would really be a lot better than how things currently are? Guess I'm just wondering if the majority of psychonauts really feel that way, or if its more of a personal use thing for most people.
I almost never talk about psychedelics to normal people. You can tell the difference right away. 
Yea I totally agree, you can tell instantly.
You should try. You will be surprised what you find.
I live in a pretty affluent, right leaning community, and I never discussed this stuff with the "normals," for fear of being misunderstood. But after a few years, and a few beers, I started talking about it, and come to find out, that just about everyone has smoked, and many still do, and more people have tried and liked shrooms than you would expect. And most are very interested still.
I have since given shrooms to doctors, lawyers, other corporate exec types, soccer moms, and all other sorts of normal people.
the old saying will always ring true... "you can never judge a book by its cover."
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: guyute22]
#23400524 - 07/01/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You got that wrong - I'll talk it about it with anybody, and I don't care about being misunderstood or any of that, but I don't discuss it with the people who clearly aren't interested. You can't shove it down people's throats when they don't want to hear it.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23400558 - 07/01/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are so many poeple causong toxic rwlationships now da days wich only care abot themselves but there they are alone with no love at all.
I am glad i have my family and friends but the world is going fucking crazy.
Peace
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23400635 - 07/01/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: You got that wrong - I'll talk it about it with anybody, and I don't care about being misunderstood or any of that, but I don't discuss it with the people who clearly aren't interested. You can't shove it down people's throats when they don't want to hear it.
got ya. i was more responding to BJ's comment that you can tell instantly.
I definitely agree, you can't shove it down people's throats when they don't want to hear about it.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: guyute22]
#23400756 - 07/01/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK, whatever. Good to hear you spread the psychedelic love though.
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Re: Psychedelic Awareness [Re: blazejesus]
#23400781 - 07/01/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bluntlock said: When I first started tripping all I wanted to do was convert the world with my newfound knowledge. I soon realized that most of the world is brainwashed and retarded. It's much easier to talk about this stuff to people who love and understand you, because they won't think you're some crazed hippy spewing horse shit.
Ive only been able to turn on a few people, like a few close friends and my girlfriend. Some people that I show psychedelics too are just like "wow that was crazy" and that's it, like it isn't groundbreaking to them and it didn't change them at all which is super surprising to me.
I think the level of intensity of the experience may have something to do with intelligence, like some people are so dumb that even after dosing they don't see any new truths. Some people don't have deeper areas in their mind that they can reach. Like what's on the surface for them is really all there is. These kinds of people scare the hell outta me haha
You are exactly right
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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