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OrgoneConclusion
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Modern Day Attention Spans
#23394689 - 06/29/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is really sad how people today cannot stay focused... *OC spies pretty object*

Ooh, what is that?!
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Sorry, I got distracted by shiny things and cannot post here.
Shiny things for my bikes make me practically orgasm when I unwrap them. Yes, a new, uprated, exhaust manifold does this. I am not proud, but it is what it is.
On a deeper note, this is CLEARLY by design right?
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OrgoneConclusion
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I recently built a rear strut tower brace for my car. It is made out of shiny aluminum (aluminium) and sparkles in the sunlight - if my trunk (boot) is open and the sun is on the horizon...
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I like my shoes
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Jokeshopbeard
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I like my tats
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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OrgoneConclusion
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Quote:
Jokeshopbeard said: I like my tits
Time to lose some fat, not be all proud of your man-boobs.
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Did you steal that gif from someone's avatar? If not, I may get rid of the cool dog, who I really like.
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I feel like my attention span diminishes when I repeatedly watch World Star Hip Hop Vine compilations on youtube
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OrgoneConclusion
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Penelope_Tree said: Did you steal that gif from someone's avatar? If not, I may get rid of the cool dog, who I really like.
You saw that, too? Thought I was having an acid flashback from 1972.
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How do I share this on instafacetubeitterchat?
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
It is really sad how people today cannot stay focused...
Reminds me of the ADHD craze, where many people are viewed as defective.
Watch a hamster or a rabbit and then tell me how much focus humans "should" have
Anxiety and restlessness is a highly adaptive trait that's helped our species survive.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23406126 - 07/03/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love it when I sit down in the morning with my coffee and see that you've done your rounds in PS&P RJ. You share so many great insights.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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laughingdog
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: It is really sad how people today cannot stay focused...
most likely accounts for some of the American obsession with sex
as it temporarily seemingly gives the undisciplined mind, training wheels, for the experiencing of concentration ... when distractions are ignored ...
or course once it is over, the undisciplined mind, seems to frequently fall prey to some sort of cell phone hypnosis.
Steve Jobs is seen as a hero by many, but might just as easily be seen as having long term, a rather undesirable influence on modern culture. Since almost every thing is made in China now and craftsmanship is dying, this perhaps goes unnoticed by many.
Ironically? it is from China that Tai Chi Chuan and Chi Kung come, which is a more accessible antidote to this malaise, than meditation for many. Hatha yoga (although frequently partly reduced to exercise) may also be a more accessible antidote to this malaise, than meditation for many.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: laughingdog]
#23416935 - 07/06/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The act of listening...
...is a miracle.
when one listens, there is no comparison, there is no acceptance or rejection, the very act of listening brings about a total attention...
-------------------- Bring the right vibes. Express yourself. Be open. Be crazy. But spread your beautiful love light. Things are gonna get wonky.
Edited by Crixalis (07/06/16 01:29 PM)
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: Crixalis]
#23418139 - 07/06/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've heard it said we are "addicted to distraction".
The mind is constantly scanning - seeking anything to escape the present moment.
I used to repeatedly read the cereal box ingredients as I ate breakfast.
Or ate my meals in front of the TV in a trance-like state.
We can't seem to drive without music or podcasts or using our phone.
Some people complain about silence and stillness... "It drives me crazy!"
We're stimulation junkies
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There is no greater gift than to give someone our full undivided attention.
So often in conversation we just wait for our turn to speak, without really listening.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23418291 - 07/06/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: So often in conversation we just wait for our turn to speak, without really listening.
Only the most aware, honest and open people I have ever met admit to this.
It is hard, when our minds can work 10x faster than the words others share with us, to remain focused on their words. It takes effort, and focus, much like meditation IMO.
None the less, 99.9% of use seem to do it some degree.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Penelope_Tree said: Did you steal that gif from someone's avatar? If not, I may get rid of the cool dog, who I really like.
THE DOG STAYS.
OP- I think there have been a few studies done on the decline in attention span. Mostly, the internet seems to take the blame. I think the capacity to immediately flick to something else properly does reduce our capacity to retain information or stay focused on a given thing.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: EllisDSox]
#23419000 - 07/07/16 01:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its not the internets fault. It starts with tv even if you wacth just tv as animals we are drawn to it but the flashing lights of 60 blicks a second. The same with our phones and computers. The real problem is the population ageing and lack of place to send crazys people. We take everyone into our avg when it comes to looking at any different mental issues. About 42 years ago there was a switch form lets put every one with a mental problem to a state run metal hospital and make sure they see the light of day. To the lets keep all them at home and walking around and give them jobs and make them fit with all normal health people. The population of mentally illness is 11% and its always been that nice 11% figure. We just can't lock people up and remove parts of therebrains anymore so the rise of what we precede as mental issues is increased but it hasn't. We don't believe that people should be treated that way because the state needs those resources to take care of the elderly which they didn't use to have. I don't want any of you to believe that people have changed or that its about being a nazi Germany idea ideas cause im plainly looking at the united state's on this one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: Crixalis] 1
#23419138 - 07/07/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crixalis said: The act of listening...
...is a miracle.
when one listens, there is no comparison, there is no acceptance or rejection, the very act of listening brings about a total attention...
the listening angle works for me and I like my shoes... (main theme plus tangent for those who are paying attention)
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23419145 - 07/07/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Anxiety and restlessness is a highly adaptive trait that's helped our species survive.
This got me thinking about autism/ADHD, and what the evolutionary advantage, if any, they serve.
I must be super evolved then, ya know with being anxious and restless all the time.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: Lucis]
#23420108 - 07/07/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think it just boils down to being able to pull in your audience or listener...
it's difficult but you can capture ones attention if you can recognize how we think as people.
We have to utilize what we know and apply it in action. What am I saying?
If you want someone to do something for you, you can use a 'leading question' to sway their answer towards what you want to hear, is this manipulation? Maybe...
If you use it to a beneficial cause like for example, inviting an introvert to a party and knowing it would be good for them despite their anti-social behaviors, it is a win win for everybody. There is a flip side...
You can use 'leading questions' to make people second think themselves in a negative manor. Kinda like testing their will or beliefs. Example- you are against someone else over a 1v1 basketball matchup. If you ask them how they are able to sink so many baskets, they'll begin to doubt their ability and you just got in their head.
There are a few UFC fighters that talk shit inside the ring for this exact reason.
This is just the tip of the iceberg...
What if we look into reverse manipulation and furthermore body language?
Does looking one in the eye and asserting dominance reward you with someones undivided attention? or did you just rub somebody the wrong way 
It's all interesting material and I'm curious as to what some of the posters here have to say
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because we choose to care more of our dependency of other people than recognizing that we aren't even supposed to be alive. Work, buy, consume, die. Lying to ourselves that we can't live off of the land, or that we will be judged by the walking dead if we choose to. We typically care more of our public image and reputation than we do of our own desires, because we know that people have.something to offer us. We can lie snd say we appreciate certain individuals for their company, but it isnt true, they offer food for the ego such as pride, always thanking us, and showing their dependency, and we like feeling like somebodys God, like they need us. So we keep people around, and we are the exact same as they are. they buy shiny things to impress people, we buy shiny things, to impress them, someone buys shiny things to impress us, and its a big goddamn human centipede. If we woke up tomorroe alone in the world, as if everyone was dead, we would not care of what we did or didnt own, or whether or not we had enough money, or time, or food, or support, because we would realize how fulfilling it is just to survive on our own.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: Lucis]
#23431019 - 07/11/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
This got me thinking about autism/ADHD, and what the evolutionary advantage, if any, they serve.
I must be super evolved then, ya know with being anxious and restless all the time.
Regarding anxiety, consider a tribe of cave men. And women.
It's highly adaptive to have some members of the group pacing the grounds scanning for enemies.
It's why we are so prone to focus on the negative. We need members of the tribe to be focused on impending doom and post traumatic stress of attacks of the past.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23431840 - 07/11/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Regarding anxiety, consider a tribe of cave men. And women. It's highly adaptive to have some members of the group pacing the grounds scanning for enemies.
funny idea
isn't anxiety a result of lots of negative self talk & imagery, and therefore the product of a busy mind?
When I'm quiet I can hear a lot more sounds. And if we don't fantasize we probably see better too.
And animal wouldn't seem to worry, although I admit squirrels are very skittish.
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Re: Modern Day Attention Spans [Re: laughingdog]
#23480738 - 07/26/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Negative thinking and fear about what might happen in the future would be a good trait to have in the jungle, right?
Worrying about the worst case scenario would seem to be good for survival.
Some say non-human animals don't worry, because worrying is based on time (anxiety about the future), and animals don't have a concept of time and live in the present.
Back to humans for a second. It seems our worry is often focused on our fear of change... and also our "What ifs"
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