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Mateo
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: MeanGreen]
#24971863 - 02/06/18 03:56 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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They probably germinate soon. I use sphagnum moss but that shouldn´t be any difference as long it is little wet and humidity is good in the bag. Fresh berries usually germinates quite fast so any day now. You keep the baggie little warmer than indoor temp and it can get little light i assume.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#24975542 - 02/08/18 12:21 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is my only surviving cutting today...It is indeed not too easy to root these little babies! Catha is a dream compared to E. Novo I must say. But I'm glad I have at least one survivor
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How is your Tissue culture thing going ?
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: DBCOOPERCE]
#24976314 - 02/08/18 11:22 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, I have 25 coconut seeds in coconut peat several months ago with humidity dome, so I do not have to water a lot and it guarantees humidity I have returned to cultivate coca after several years, the seeds, I got them back from my house for what I am Colombian, here in this Andean climate and acid usually gives the coca very good one fact about the earth is that the soil Andean has about 0.5 -1.5 organic matter, that is to say too low so the coca usually grows in acid and calcareous and phosphoric soils, for the plants that I have only I must mix 50% hummus and 50% mother earth to let them grow in large containers


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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: abraxxas]
#24976394 - 02/08/18 12:13 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cuttings is hard with this one. Yours look very healthy, DBCOOPERCE
I have recieved all the material i need to try start experimenting with Tissue Culture. But i had quite much to do lately so i havent started with the TC experiments. As soon as i have some time i definitly going to try. I think it could be sucessfull way of propagating coca variety plants. And with cuttings beeing so hard and berries with short viability, TC could really be a perfect solution. I might have some time this weekend, at least to start it up.
abraxxas, so the soil is acidic. Do you know how much acidity (the PH of the soil) where they grow good? And is the soil high/low in any other compound? I have seen in videos that the soil is all red where they grow, is that from iron or other source?
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#24976406 - 02/08/18 12:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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abraxxas
Can i ask what plant is in the top of second picture, in the white bucket with blue label? The one with many small leaf? Looks like mimosa but can be somthing else.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#24976715 - 02/08/18 03:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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In fact, coca cultivation is generated after two parts are combined, organic and mineral, reddish soils are high in clays, coca usually grows in clay soils, for its cultivation and the neutralization of soils too acidic farmers use lime, calcium hydroxide to alkalize the soil and precipitate some harmful components such as aluminum, the diet of coca is composed of micro and macro nutrients, I have not gone much into the subject yet but this is what I have come to understand, of course that in this thread they have already advanced enough in the subject, Don mateo, that's right, it's about mimosa hostilis va. Jurema preta from brazil
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: abraxxas]
#24977803 - 02/09/18 01:20 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder why it is that my novos start off with fairly larger leaves, and then those fall off, and are replaced by smaller leaves as it branches. Is that normal? I don't seem to ever get nice plants with big leaves like these on all of the growth points.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: abraxxas]
#24977998 - 02/09/18 05:51 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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abraxxas said: In fact, coca cultivation is generated after two parts are combined, organic and mineral, reddish soils are high in clays, coca usually grows in clay soils, for its cultivation and the neutralization of soils too acidic farmers use lime, calcium hydroxide to alkalize the soil and precipitate some harmful components such as aluminum, the diet of coca is composed of micro and macro nutrients, I have not gone much into the subject yet but this is what I have come to understand, of course that in this thread they have already advanced enough in the subject, Don mateo, that's right, it's about mimosa hostilis va. Jurema preta from brazil
Interesting! Alkalizing the soil / changing the pH also changes how nutrients are taken up so foremost the plant species needs to be comfortable with this. Seems strange if they really alkalize the soil, either the soil is so acidic that it is too much even for the coca or there might be something else going on.
I think basically all plants have a diet of micro- and macro-nutrients. Macro nutrients are needed in major quantities to help provide energy and especially compose the tissues. Micro-nutrients include compounds a lot of which metals in mineral form in more trace quantities to enable plants to make essential compounds with more unusual chemistry like certain enzymes and chlorophyll.
I am still waiting to see if my novo seedling which I have tried to switch to ambient (low) humidity pulls through and keeps developing well, I'm a bit skeptical. Wanna look ahead for the possibility of a martha to keep these Ery's happy.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Solipsis]
#24978357 - 02/09/18 10:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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The novograntese variety is a great consumer of nitrogen, although the farmers provide them with large quantities of urea to ferilize it, the soil alkalization technique is used a lot by the peasants, the coca notcograntese I have only seen how it reproduces in the form of cuttings, in itself , it is normal to release leaves, but not in a massive way that the leaves fall from being ase is a bad sign. but it is usual, I do not know why the cocas do not grow well outside their habitat but the closer they are to the equator the better they are acclimated, so they support a humidity that varies and that is not constant. but most of the year the coca plants survive without irrigation.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: abraxxas]
#24980838 - 02/10/18 10:58 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good to know, my Novo's have quite light colored leaves - not chlorosis per se but I think it could be better.. Have had this problem with other plant species too recently, I guess I don't really fertilize my plants enough although I do fertilize to some extent.
So I think I will be adding some bloodmeal. And I should test my soil pH to see if I haven't gradually been acidifying everything a little too much.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Solipsis]
#24988640 - 02/12/18 12:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Solipsis said: Good to know, my Novo's have quite light colored leaves - not chlorosis per se but I think it could be better.. Have had this problem with other plant species too recently, I guess I don't really fertilize my plants enough although I do fertilize to some extent.
So I think I will be adding some bloodmeal. And I should test my soil pH to see if I haven't gradually been acidifying everything a little too much.
It's very easy to go overboard with fertilize, with these guys.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#24996162 - 02/15/18 10:32 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ho ho... Christmas comes late to me..   I have ordered these berries, it´s not my coca bush unfortunatley.
  E.Coca var. coca 
I guess i have the seeds/berries in a week or so. Looking forward to the seeds arrival.
And a off-topic bonus, also something i ordered.
 Iboga seeds
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#24996444 - 02/15/18 12:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Iboganine sound like it could be cool but the side effects seem farrr too worrying for me to try, specially as i have a house full of random psychedelics, hallucinagens, disassociatives and stimulants all with much less scary side effects.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24996528 - 02/15/18 01:38 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ibogaine isn´t a nice psychadelic i think. At least not a very pleasant one. But it´s amazing effect to "reset" the brain and take away any addiction is truly unique. Even heroin addicts feel no cravings after ibogaine treatment, very strange effects for a plant compound. So it´s more of a medical substance. Lot´s of puking when taking it i have seen, even in lower dosages. It should not be taken without a doctor at hands.
Very cool plant though. Really looking forward to growing it.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#24997085 - 02/15/18 06:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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They say ibogaine can be used yo treat addiction. But i think i will stick to alcoholism because that yrup looks like no fun.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: ferrel_human] 1
#25003196 - 02/18/18 09:46 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are good days and there are bad ones...
Today 2 of my berries on my E.Novo fell off.  None were finnished but one had become orange. Still, i put them in a bag with wet sphagnum moss. I have no hopes they will germinate but i still must try.
 
One other berrie that also is orange is showing signs of falling soon. The "stem" up to the berrie is thin and brown, not healthy green as the other berries. 4 berries still left on the Novos. I kind of had some hope for these as they stay so long without falling. Maybee the others stay until red color.
On the positive side i have an order for E.Coca berries going. I hope they will arrive safely.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#25004267 - 02/18/18 06:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry about thwm sseeds. Mine have never made it to maturity. Good luck with thwn. The orange one looks alot better.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#25004772 - 02/19/18 12:25 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Iboganine sound like it could be cool but the side effects seem farrr too worrying for me to try, specially as i have a house full of random psychedelics, hallucinagens, disassociatives and stimulants all with much less scary side effects.
What side effects are you referring to?
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#25013138 - 02/22/18 12:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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For those who remember a few pages back my dead coca i didnt give up on
 Looks like this From this
 Just a twig
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#25013337 - 02/22/18 01:53 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: For those who remember a few pages back my dead coca i didnt give up on
 Looks like this From this
 Just a twig
That looks way better mazadar. Mine looks like crap still. Hasnt quite warmed up like i would jave hoped so.
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