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Re: Coca growers [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 1
    #25447951 - 09/09/18 03:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to have to find me an iron supplement fertilizer. The leaves of my E. coca plants are a bit yellowish, though the picture makes it seem worse. Two E. novogranatense in the back and two E. coca in the front. One of the E. novogranatense has been flowering for a while, but has now been pollinated somehow and is in the early stages of berry production. No idea if it will make it to maturity.

 


And some Erythorylum spp. seedlings of about a month old. They were kept in a rather dark spot up until a couple of days ago. After some reorganization, they're now growing in front of a south facing window under a 20W aquarium light.



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Re: Coca growers [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25447977 - 09/09/18 03:27 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well regardless thwy all look great. Sun or very little sun. :super:


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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25451785 - 09/11/18 08:26 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well I found these small granules of organic mineral fertilizer, intended to use for rhododendrons, hydrangeas, azaleas and other acid-loving plants. It can be top dressed and watered in. I will probably start off with a quarter of the recommended amount. The fertilizer presumably lasts for 100 days, so I guess it will be rather slow release.

NPK (Mg) = 5-3-6 (2); 5% N, 3% P2O5, 6% K2O, 2% MgO, 0,8% Fe, 45% organic matter.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25452582 - 09/11/18 03:05 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds like a good fertilizer Poison Drink. :fonz:


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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25452647 - 09/11/18 03:27 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Good to hear! Of course I had just watered all the indoor plants yesterday, so I will have to wait a while before giving the Erythroxylum spp. this fertilizer. I did however give the Kratom plants a top dressing and watered it in, since they can handle it. So hopefully I can have a foretaste of how this fertilizer will perform.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25454634 - 09/12/18 11:04 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

what's the light schedule for these under lights?


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mmcc]
    #25455157 - 09/12/18 02:58 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Mine where fine 12/12, 18/6, 16/8. I tend to get more flowers on 12/12 whether thats a thing with coca i dont know, just my experience.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #25457179 - 09/13/18 10:44 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

^^^ Yeah, I’ve noticed that I get the least flowers when the days are longer. Mine just finished a massive flush of flowers, way more than I’ve ever had, and it’s getting close to the equinox.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #25457302 - 09/13/18 11:40 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Mine are running on sunlight so now the nights are drawing in, im hoping it triggers some flowering. Ive had one flower since starting them in natural light.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #25458650 - 09/13/18 10:47 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Give them a good dose of fertilizer, it always seems to trigger increased flowering for me. It happens pretty quick, like 3 or 4 days.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #25459151 - 09/14/18 06:58 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Mine get nutes every watering


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #25459194 - 09/14/18 07:28 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Mine get nutes every watering




Diluted? I doubt it would be full strength. What exactly are you mixing up?

I just top dressed mine with kelp meal dome bone meal and a bit milorganite. We are expecting a ton of rain.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25459454 - 09/14/18 09:47 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Yep 10ml to 5 litres, then ph down to 5.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #25461926 - 09/15/18 10:30 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Mine get nutes every watering




Yeah, I admit to being pretty slack with feeding. Mine are lucky to get fed two or three times  a month. They are said to be heavy feeders, so I’m sure mine are borderline nutrient deficient a lot of the time. Whenever they are lighter green than usual, I’ll give them a good blast. I guess mine respond so well because I’m usually correcting a deficiency whenever I fertilize.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #25462670 - 09/15/18 05:25 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I got a little nute burn after last watering them i must have not diluted the mix a little, first time ive done that in years. Fixed now though.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #25466816 - 09/17/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Okay so heres an update on my three seedlings.

These two Im keeping in an enclosed grow tub that has a 96watt T5 fixture sitting on top of it.



This one I moved out under a 120watt cfl fixture with room humidity.
It was too close to the fixture at first so the levaes got a little burned, Im thinking to move it back into the grow tub with higher humidity since it's not looking as good.




Do these look big enough to repot now?
Theyre currently in coco coir, and Ive given no nutrients.
I have Foxfarm OF to repot them in.
Going to buy some good liquid fertilizer for indoors soon as well.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #25467077 - 09/17/18 12:28 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Man i dont know. They look rather scraggly. Id wait. Why dont you feed them s9mething first and see if they kinda fatten up so to speak.

I dont feel they need too much humidity after more than 2 months from germination. Then again im in a sub tropical region. Hard to say but if i were you i would do only one. Feed and see how it does.

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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25467189 - 09/17/18 01:15 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Im a little worried the soil might be staying moist for too long in my grow tub as well which was one of the reasons I wanted to move one out into my room.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #25467220 - 09/17/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well depending on what variety(species) you are growing, they do benefit from  a dry period. My remaining truxillanus like the dry periods. So the rain that we have been getting, not so good. But it happens. Ill order more next year to tweak it just right.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25467239 - 09/17/18 01:30 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Humidity murdered alot of my seedlings, i always got better results growing in open air.


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