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ferrel_human
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Re: Coca growers [Re: abraxxas]
#25403358 - 08/21/18 04:34 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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abraxxas said: I can say that cocaine is present in coca plants in different percentage, but it is not the only component that the leaf has, it has cocaine alkaloids and other important minerals, such as iron, zinc, calcium, phosphorus, potassium and a nutritional content very high, low in calories from people who prepare tea, bread, desserts, beverages, beers, cosmetics, coca soaps and is a plant of much use, it is a shame his persecution. .
This is one of my main interests. I love its most taditional uses. In fact i kinda raped my plants this past weekend in a drunken stupor. It was good i guess.
Cant wait for thwm to regenerate.
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mrmazdarx9
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I used to enjoy leaves and vodka till one night i was up all night with a very strange heart beat that felt like my whole body beated with my heart. Scared me a bit so i didnt try again possible cocaethylene bad reaction.
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ferrel_human
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mrmazdarx9 said: I used to enjoy leaves and vodka till one night i was up all night with a very strange heart beat that felt like my whole body beated with my heart. Scared me a bit so i didnt try again possible cocaethylene bad reaction.
I think yoyll be fine.
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mrmazdarx9
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Still better for me to enjoy them separately, im pretty sure i mentioned i combined the two earlier on in this thread. I did enjoy it but i wouldnt say it was worth how i felt for many hours that time something went wrong.
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Teonanacatl2
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Re: Coca growers [Re: abraxxas]
#25406300 - 08/22/18 09:33 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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"if you go this way you will realize that cocaine will never really be pure", u are right. actually, i expressed myself badly and in fact there is no pure or safe cocaine in the street. the purest cocaine that i have consumed has come from the leaf.
mrmazdarx9, somthing similar happened to me too, many times. i still dont believe that was cocaethylene, i think that only happens when u use too much sodium bicarbonate.
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mrmazdarx9
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Whatsbicarb got to do with it? Cocaethylene is formed through cocaine and alcohol.
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what did I miss? So whats new. three of my novo clones are alive still, one is really strong and big and the other two are hanging on losing leaves here and there. but the tops are still green. flowers are going crazy on the coca. Checked the roots on one of the clones and it almost died but yes it has roots. didn't bother taking pictures maybe next year when it is stronger and ready for repotting.
I also developed a new method of preparing coca matcha. I wet pounded the coca leaves and made a paste. Then i put it in a modern freezer which draws out the moisture of the cabinet. This way i freeze dried the paste. Now im left with clumps of very very fine dust. just thought that might be interesting to some tea connoisseurs
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Cocalero


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Cocalero]
#25409999 - 08/24/18 01:06 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I found this an interesting read https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4838786/
Does anyone have any of the books listed at the bottom?
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Teonanacatl2
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"Whatsbicarb got to do with it? Cocaethylene is formed through cocaine and alcohol." those are kind of toxic but baking soda increases blood pressure, alcohol too. two teaspoon of baking soda has 2.700 mg of sodium. 2300mg is what u can take per day. if u use too much of both, ull raise your blood pressure and you may have palpitations. i use ginger or banana in those cases. considering u use one teaspoon per 2 tablespoon or 4 teaspoon of coca powder, that can be a lot of sodium, plus alcohol.
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mrmazdarx9
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Really, you learn something new every day.
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Teonanacatl2
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it really doesnt take place what im postin here, this section is dedicate to growers. sorry dude.
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Tim0ne
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Harvest! only 6
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abraxxas
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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne] 1
#25419422 - 08/28/18 02:53 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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14 coca alkaloids 1- cocaine: analgesic and anesthetic properties 2-ecgonine: carboxylated derivative of atropine, has properties to metabolize fats and glucosides 3-atropine: used to give dryness in the respiratory tree 4-pectin: absorber and antidiarrheic along with vitamin e regulates skin melanin 5-papain: it is a ferment that accelerates the digestion 6-higrinina: excites salivary gallants when there is oxygen efficiency in the environment 7-globulin: cardiotonic that regulates the lack of oxygen in the environment improving blood circulation 8-pyridine: improves the formation and functioning of the brain 9 -quinoline: prevents the formation of dental caries 10-conica: powerful anesthetic 11- cocaine: anesthetic together with cocaine of powerful action 12 -reserpine: improves blood circulation and hypertension 13-benzoin: accelerates the formation of muscle cells and antioxidant 14-inulin: regulates the secretion of bile and its accumulation in the vesicle
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abraxxas
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Re: Coca growers [Re: abraxxas]
#25419480 - 08/28/18 03:14 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have some good photos to upload, where I compare leaf, stem, and growth, of course also the seed between e. coca and e. novo I do not only have e. novo and e. coca in my collection I also have some hybrids given over time the lines of mark in the leaves in some is absent and others are very present Soon will come a time of many seeds of both e. coca as of e. novo so I'd like to share the photos and files available I'm chewing coca leaves more than ever too much work I have also ordered to order some hybrid seeds from the Putumayo bass in Colombia to a dear friend shaman of blood of the kofane tribe We know them as para-rite and Ecuadorian he is the person with the largest collection of coca leaf he has ever known It has a coca leaf from Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Colombia It will not be strange to me that among your plants there are some Tuxillense I will keep ahead
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ferrel_human
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Re: Coca growers [Re: abraxxas]
#25419528 - 08/28/18 03:35 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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abraxxas said: I have some good photos to upload, where I compare leaf, stem, and growth, of course also the seed between e. coca and e. novo I do not only have e. novo and e. coca in my collection I also have some hybrids given over time the lines of mark in the leaves in some is absent and others are very present Soon will come a time of many seeds of both e. coca as of e. novo so I'd like to share the photos and files available I'm chewing coca leaves more than ever too much work I have also ordered to order some hybrid seeds from the Putumayo bass in Colombia to a dear friend shaman of blood of the kofane tribe We know them as para-rite and Ecuadorian he is the person with the largest collection of coca leaf he has ever known It has a coca leaf from Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Colombia It will not be strange to me that among your plants there are some Tuxillense I will keep ahead
That is awesome. You being from the motherland are very lucky. I wish i had novo again. Seems it does not like cold at all and will die if its not kept in consistent growing conditions. Thats the hardest part here to do cause winters are so erratic. Sometimes very mild and easy and other times cold down below freezing.
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How cold can small novos (less than a year old) stand before they die? I'm getting my game plan together for winter. Zone 9a/b some years we get 0 freezes other years we get several hard freezes. Last year we had 2 hard freezes one with snow the other freezing rain. My plan thus far is move the smallest most sensitive plants inside, larger plants stay outside trunks wrapped with insulation and covered with 3oz frost cloth and a few heaters nearby.
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ferrel_human
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I think below 55 and your pushing it. They dont like cole weather for too long. Im actually getting some bright white leds ready so i can grow inside the garage this year. Dont want to risk my truxillense plant. They are the best and fastest growing cocas i ever grown.
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I best dust off the HPS and make room
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mrmazdarx9
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Mine stay indoors all year this year is the first year they arent in a grow tent for winter.
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Still getting the hang of coca growing but so far they look ok. The only get rainwater from the sky or rainwater adjusted to 5.5-6.0ph. They are definitely more picky than brugmansia, kratom, and khat.
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