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ferrel_human
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Re: Spreading the love [Re: MeanGreen]
#25278892 - 06/19/18 01:56 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mateo said: It seems the al pacha fashion has changed a bit.
 I think your al pacha hat was way cooler Ferrel.
 Erythroxylum Novogratinese var. Truxillence
 Quite a few berries has begun sprout, like this. A good sign, indeed.
Im going to let the sprouts get to about 1cm, then i will plant them. For now they rest in slightly moist sphagnum moss as usual.
I have been looking forward to get a Truxillence plant for a while now. It seem getting closer now.
  
Good score buddy. My alpaca hat doesn't fit me. I guess my head is too big.
Goodluck on those. Those will be very nice when it grown out.
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That's great, Mateo! I discovered the feared spider mites have reappeared in my grow tent. They were mainly affecting the E. novo's, hence the brown edges on some leaves. Already gave them their second dose of pyrethrum spray.. But they definitely like the warmer weather and higher humidity, since they keep on growing! The recent repotting might have a share in it too though. One of the E. coca's lost most of it's leaves but is now after a long time pushing out new growth. A reappearing phenomenon it seems..
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Poison Drink said: That's great, Mateo! I discovered the feared spider mites have reappeared in my grow tent. They were mainly affecting the E. novo's, hence the brown edges on some leaves. Already gave them their second dose of pyrethrum spray.. But they definitely like the warmer weather and higher humidity, since they keep on growing! The recent repotting might have a share in it too though. One of the E. coca's lost most of it's leaves but is now after a long time pushing out new growth. A reappearing phenomenon it seems..

Those are some beautifuplantsbuddy They looks really good.
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They had better days, but I'm sure they'll thrive again after some repeated application of pyrethrum spray. One of the E. novo's is flowering almost all the time, but none ever turn to berries. Still too small I presume, but hopeful for the future!
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Well what ever you're doing they look awesome. Very nice plants man. Have done any chews?
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I have munched on some fallen leaves in the past, before I had to spray them with pyrethrum. They are definitely active and would numb my mouth while only chewing a leave or two. Never took a proper dosage yet, though. Maybe in the future, but I'm patient.
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Yeah me too. I cant wait for my truxillanus to give more fruit.
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Beware of the spidermites. They killed several of my novo plants, big ones, 1 meter tall. I so much regret i didnt deal with them right away but i just got berries and didnt want spray them until the berries were ready. I should have. I suggest deal with them quick and forcefully so they dont spread and get too much for the plant. For some strange reason my coca plant stood right next to the novos but didnt get bothered by the spidermites. I hope you get rid of the mites.
Ferrel, my alpaca is too small too. But yours had those cool patterns and the part going down over the ears. It´s really thin, not much to wear if it had fitted. Wasn´t made for wearing though, but yeah, i was scammed on the hat. Not the nice one i had seen here before. The berries came quite quick and without problems, happy about that.
Now i have a question to you guys, Erythroxylum Idpau, can these variety be grown from seed? Everywhere on the net it can be read that E.Idpau can only be propagated by cuttings. Now there is someone offering E.Idpau viable seeds and im intrested but the info on the net troubles me. Anybody really know for sure how it is with this variety, can it be grown from seeds? Info on the net can easily be false, one false info gets copied fast and soon everywhere is that false info. It would be very nice to know the real truth, i really want a Idpau plant also.
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Re: Spreading the love [Re: Mateo]
#25279065 - 06/19/18 03:26 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've heard of that variety but never even once thought to acquire it. Who knows. That would be something interesting.
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I think i will try plant some of my Truxillence berries in soil directly. I usually have them in moist sphagnum moss until the sprout is about 1cm and then plant them. But dampening off and fungus/bacteria/algae is a constant threat that must be dealt with. So i think i try plant at least some of the berries in a soilmix and let nature have it´s course as it is meant to work. There will be fungus and problems but i dont see it so i dont worry as much.
Now i must figure out what soilmix to use. I have both rough coco choir, with large pieces and a finer variant of coco. I also have soil, perlite, vermiculite, lava gravel. maybe a mix of fine coco and soil plus a mall amount of perlite and gravel. I could put just fine coco on top so its easy for the seed to come up and to prevent mold and algae on the top. I skip ferts until they are bigger. I think this will work nicely.
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Re: Spreading the love [Re: Mateo]
#25281056 - 06/20/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like a good mix, from what I read they like an acidic soil so do not use vermiculite as it tends to up the ph. Maybe some coffee grounds mixed in to lower the soil ph? There's a great thread here about coca soil mix recipes.
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Re: Novo baby cold weather growth [Re: Mateo]
#25281091 - 06/20/18 01:36 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mateo said: I mixed up perlite, pumice, lavarock, small leca and citrus soil (soil for citrus plants, lower in PH)

Maybe something like that again? When I repotted my plants, I added a lot of lava rock. They seem to like it, and the soil doesn't get too compacted.
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Re: Spreading the love [Re: Mateo]
#25281153 - 06/20/18 02:16 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mateo said: I think i will try plant some of my Truxillence berries in soil directly. I usually have them in moist sphagnum moss until the sprout is about 1cm and then plant them. But dampening off and fungus/bacteria/algae is a constant threat that must be dealt with. So i think i try plant at least some of the berries in a soilmix and let nature have it´s course as it is meant to work. There will be fungus and problems but i dont see it so i dont worry as much.
Now i must figure out what soilmix to use. I have both rough coco choir, with large pieces and a finer variant of coco. I also have soil, perlite, vermiculite, lava gravel. maybe a mix of fine coco and soil plus a mall amount of perlite and gravel. I could put just fine coco on top so its easy for the seed to come up and to prevent mold and algae on the top. I skip ferts until they are bigger. I think this will work nicely.
I washed my in a 4 parts water to 1 part h2o2. And that worked out great. Were your seeds at all moldy by any chance? Anyways i bet they will benefit from the sanitizing.
Thas good soil mix. I been meaning to add charcoal to mine. The pinedown aaid its a good additive.
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Hey guys, so I just got some E. novo seeds by surprise and feel a bit unprepared as I haven't done much research on germinating.
The guy kept the seeds wet with a paper towel and it looks like a few are already starting to sprout. Do y'all have a preferred tek for germinating them? I was going to start them indoors in a grow tub that has some diffused T5s on top, in coco coir, sowed on the surface so that they are still getting some light (I read they're weak sprouters). Does this sound alright for them?
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I could write a long post but Naum made a good guide that is basicly the same.
A guide to growing Erythroxylum novogranatense by Naum
I hope they germinates good and grow well for you.
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Here are my plants. They are going through chlorosis.

I took the ph of the rainwater and its right at 7. Which is neutral. I know they enjoy a little more acidic. I had sprinkled dolomite lime but i also too dress with blood meal which is acidic. I think they will grow out of it once the rain tapers off. Its on and off now.
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Re: Spreading the love [Re: Mateo]
#25281401 - 06/20/18 04:24 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mateo said: I could write a long post but Naum made a good guide that is basicly the same.
A guide to growing Erythroxylum novogranatense by Naum
I hope they germinates good and grow well for you.
Thats a good manual. Go by that and any other twist yoi could throw in there. Me my thing later on will be winter growing. And ill need to gwt me some lights maybe leds.
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MeanGreen said: Sounds like a good mix, from what I read they like an acidic soil so do not use vermiculite as it tends to up the ph. Maybe some coffee grounds mixed in to lower the soil ph? There's a great thread here about coca soil mix recipes.
Im little scared of coffie grounds. I tryed them long ago and it killed the plant quite quickly. Maybe it was something wrong with my coffie grounds or i used too much.
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Mateo said: I mixed up perlite, pumice, lavarock, small leca and citrus soil (soil for citrus plants, lower in PH)

Maybe something like that again? When I repotted my plants, I added a lot of lava rock. They seem to like it, and the soil doesn't get too compacted.
This worked well but mold from seedcoats spread to toplayer of soil. If i add some coco toplayer it would be good.
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ferrel_human said: I washed my in a 4 parts water to 1 part h2o2. And that worked out great. Were your seeds at all moldy by any chance? Anyways i bet they will benefit from the sanitizing.
Thas good soil mix. I been meaning to add charcoal to mine. The pinedown aaid its a good additive.
Im little scared of washing berries that have germinated i H2O2, otherwise a good thing. Charcoal is probably a very good additive, it´s used very often in tissue culture. I dont know how much to use though and should i use activated charcoal? Also can one use ordinary activated coal, the type used to clean moonshine? We call that one stonecoal here.
The root-sprouts is going to be 10mm in notime, i must mix this together soon because it is soon time to pot them up
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ferrel_human said: Here are my plants. They are going through chlorosis.

I took the ph of the rainwater and its right at 7. Which is neutral. I know they enjoy a little more acidic. I had sprinkled dolomite lime but i also too dress with blood meal which is acidic. I think they will grow out of it once the rain tapers off. Its on and off now.
I read one should avoid lime. Is chlorosis iron deficiancy? There is chelated iron that can be added, MG did it on other plants with very light leafs, they looked very good afterwards. I hope you can fix it, can you check PH of soil somehow? It might help to lower PH but one would want to know the starting PH. If PH is too high the plants cant take up iron, it could be the problem. Little scared of advicing something that might damage the plants though. Check PH of soil would be best.
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Re: Spreading the love [Re: Mateo]
#25281528 - 06/20/18 05:34 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont evwn rememever if i added the lime or not. I should really keep a journal and what i add.you cant tell from the top either.
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