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myceliups
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Mateo]
#25144179 - 04/16/18 07:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks!! It's a novo I believe. At least that's what the other end of the trade said. Still trying to get the other varietys without buying from a vendor lol. I prefer the barter system of course.
I'm totally going to let that berry do what they do best
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: myceliups]
#25148582 - 04/18/18 04:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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One of my E. novogranatense lost most if its leaves about a month ago. It's recovering at the moment, albeit painfully slow. The other one isn't growing at all. Its leaves are turning yellow and occasionally one falls off. However, today I was giving them a closer inspection and noticed something unexpected. The one that's stagnating seems to be producing a flower!?

Not sure what to think of it.. The plant is probably too small to produce a viable berry. Should I remove it hoping it will encourage vegetative growth? Is it normal that the plant won't grow new leaves if it's flowering?
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Mateo
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The plant should continue growing even if starting to flower. I see you have some white on the plant, produced by some bug i believe. Sometimes when affected by bugs the plant responds with producing some flowers. I have seen same on my plants. Its alomst like it thinks if im under attack i better produce some offspring before it is too late. Some people had berries on plants not even a year old but it usually takes some years before berries arrive. I dont think they produce berries that cant grow so if you get a berry it is probaby going to be germinatable if it reaches later stages of development ie. gets yellow or orange. Good luck with the flower, novos can self pollinate so massage the flower lightly with a brush but careful, they easily fall off.
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Mateo]
#25149172 - 04/18/18 07:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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The flowering plant is in a declining state for a month or two now. This is a very similar occurrence compared to the other one, only delayed a couple of months. The plants have those whitish spots for a while now. It might be a residue from the pyrethrum spray. I carefully inspected the leaves of the plants, but didn't find any bugs crawling around. I did however see some bugs in the soil of my Khat seedlings, at the moment without negative consequences. I do fertilize all of my plants with fresh worm castings, which is full of life. So that might be the culprit, even though it's presumably benign. Still, no bugs have been spotted on the E. novogranatense plants or in its soil..
Well, let's wait and see how (or more likely if) the flower develops then!
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You will get a flower for sure. But getting a berry from the flower is rarely happening. They usually just dries up and falls off. But if lucky one get a berry. I have had hundreds of flowers and just 6 berries and that is over many years.
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Mateo]
#25150049 - 04/19/18 05:37 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Finallly came nback to some babies.
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Looking good, Ferrel! Those were the var. truxillense, right? Interested to see how those will turn out!
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Thanks man. And yes they are truxillanes. Im also curious about them too. I hooe its something magical.
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Solipsis
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Man.. I am having some problems (I hardly ever have none with Novo's..), leaves are getting paler and paler on one or two of my plants and some leaves also get brown spots at the edges and the leaves are dropped well before they wilt.
I did treat with fungicide because of both a general fungus threat (some weird silvery fungus with black spores still unidentified by me or anyone here apparently) and some damping off.
Most look okay for now, but they don't have *that* many leaves and like this I fear they could lose them sneaky sneaky.. Maybe they need micronutrients.. idk how I am going to give those without the macronutrients... maybe yeast nutrient could be good? Has vitamins and minerals and stuff?
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Solipsis]
#25154644 - 04/21/18 05:45 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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just buy micronutrient ferts designed for aquariums, been using that stuff for like 2 years and it works fine, you could also try powdered minerals, powdered vulcan rocks for example
very pale leaves sound like mg deff, use epsom salts in that case
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Solipsis]
#25154866 - 04/21/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Solipsis said: Man.. I am having some problems (I hardly ever have none with Novo's..), leaves are getting paler and paler on one or two of my plants and some leaves also get brown spots at the edges and the leaves are dropped well before they wilt.
I did treat with fungicide because of both a general fungus threat (some weird silvery fungus with black spores still unidentified by me or anyone here apparently) and some damping off.
Most look okay for now, but they don't have *that* many leaves and like this I fear they could lose them sneaky sneaky.. Maybe they need micronutrients.. idk how I am going to give those without the macronutrients... maybe yeast nutrient could be good? Has vitamins and minerals and stuff?
You got pictures? If its intervenal chlorosis i used iron supplement milorganite. Works wonders. And as ferroxx said some added epsom salts works too.
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for iron i have a bottle w rusty iron stuff in it, + water and vinegar, sun and moving it sometimes may help
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Feroxx]
#25154971 - 04/21/18 10:05 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Feroxx said: for iron i have a bottle w rusty iron stuff in it, + water and vinegar, sun and moving it sometimes may help
You know i read quite the contrary to that. After years of sticking nails in the soil. I just had to google it and as it turns out plants just cant take in iron oxide. So its pretty much useless to do it. I just didnt know.
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Im gonna have a dilemma in about 10 days.

They are fine and not suffering and thriving but what about when i leave for work? 14 days away from them and not being able to vent thw tubs and sitting in stagnant water. I dont know but it doesnt sit well. I know ill have to transplant but any ideas for 14 days of no help to them on how to keep them alive. Im all ears.
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Well how did you keep them last time when you were at work? They were still germinating I assume, so they had to stay moist. You could take a transparent plastic container with lid and make holes in all six sides. Raise it from the floor so the air currents can flow freely. Fill this container with a proper amount of wet perlite, and hope those little cubes from the plant tray will stay moist during those two weeks? Like making a SGFC if you ever visited the mushroom parts of this forum. I suppose the better option would probably be to put together an automated system.
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The best option would be to have them taken care of by someone with a green thumb. How hard can it be with some proper instructions, even for a rookie?
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ferrel_human
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I once told my wife to water my poppies while at work. Came home and all 3 or 4 were dead. I xant have her take care of thwm. My little boy xant trust either. My daughter, not really interested. Good thing this is a drought tolerant variety.
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Feroxx
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diy hydroponic system, vermiculite and hydrogel, watering stakes or some sort of diy water stake, i have the same trouble, which is why im moving away from pereskiopsis and such, or at least i should diy hydros for them
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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Feroxx]
#25155325 - 04/21/18 12:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would still be cautious, although they might be drought tolerant when older, seedlings usually are a bit more sensitive. Especially when you've been keeping them in a high RH atmosphere.
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Feroxx
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someone here posted about apple cider vinegar, i have used it sometimes but thinkin bout lowering pH or lowering salt levels, i dont have any clue if it helps w droughts
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