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Re: Coca growers [Re: ellomello]
    #24712549 - 10/15/17 06:16 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone know what causes leaves to curl around the edges, just slightly?

I'm seeing this on both my khat plant, and my novos.





this may be to much heat, along with not enough water...




I think you're right. They are looking better now though.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24712609 - 10/15/17 06:39 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Cocaine is such a beautiful substance.




The leaf is way better in my experience. Good strong coffee wants to compete but it cant.




Im looking forward to trying the leaf some day, but I cant seem to get a novo to maturity :frown:




Give it time man. The first year and a half is the determining factor ime to what will make it.

Me i started with 10 seeds. Got 8 plants. And little by little the weakest died and im,left with 2 steong very giving plants. Hell some of the leaves on one of mine are getting bigger in size.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24712971 - 10/15/17 09:12 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Cocaine is such a beautiful substance.




The leaf is way better in my experience. Good strong coffee wants to compete but it cant.




Im looking forward to trying the leaf some day, but I cant seem to get a novo to maturity :frown:




Give it time man. The first year and a half is the determining factor ime to what will make it.

Me i started with 10 seeds. Got 8 plants. And little by little the weakest died and im,left with 2 steong very giving plants. Hell some of the leaves on one of mine are getting bigger in size.




I'm having trouble providing them with the correct environment. I gathered some soils from the area (Eastern Washington), because we have a lot of iron in our soil, and I know what Novos benefit from iron. A lot of the soil was clay though, and I used a lot of perlite to mitigate its muddiness, but all of the perlite floats to the surface, and the bottom holes clog in my pots. I run into some sort of issue every time I try to grow them.

My soil composition contains a small amount of peat, to hopefully acidify the soil, though I know peat is not recommended. It has some various clays in it, a bit of coir, gardening soil, earthworm castings, and some 50-60% perlite. I put hydroton pebbles in the bottom, to keep the drain holes clear, but it's not working so well.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24713463 - 10/16/17 05:30 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

My soil is mainly coir. And over the time wive jut been top dressing with espoma ferts. Ive just recently started adding ecoscraps potting soil cut 50/50 with coir and perlite. They love it and it shows in the beautiful growth they put out like clockwork.

If i were you id spring for some coir nd perlite. Use the k.i.s.s. method.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24714433 - 10/16/17 02:39 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Yep the first year is scary and slow. Scary cos they tend to just die went through maybe 20 plants before i got 3 warriors. Cant believe they are coming up to 3 year old now.
I use coir and perlite and ph up with nutes for acidifying and food. I agree KISS both me and ferrel have recommended coir probably 20 time each or more on this thread, i really wouldnt try anything else its so forgiving i.e. over watering.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24715899 - 10/17/17 06:11 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Yep the first year is scary and slow. Scary cos they tend to just die went through maybe 20 plants before i got 3 warriors. Cant believe they are coming up to 3 year old now.
I use coir and perlite and ph up with nutes for acidifying and food. I agree KISS both me and ferrel have recommended coir probably 20 time each or more on this thread, i really wouldnt try anything else its so forgiving i.e. over watering.




You know, my instincts told me to use coir, but I have read elsewhere that a combination of other shit was the way to go. Maybe I will try to repot some of these in coir and see how it goes. I really want to keep my twins alive!

That's pH down, I hope, btw :wink:


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24717003 - 10/17/17 02:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Whoops yep ph down lol


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24719667 - 10/18/17 02:51 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I brought my plants inside for the winter today. I noticed quite a few berries forming, especially on one of my three plants. I hope they are able to make it to maturity indoors.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #24725033 - 10/20/17 04:13 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Where can i upload a picture? Do u know any page?


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Teonanacatl2]
    #24725256 - 10/20/17 05:19 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

if you look at the top of the screen theres a pics link under your user name upload it there then copy and paste the [img] link


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 1
    #24725853 - 10/20/17 09:00 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Listen up fellas, pro tip:

So, I was reading on the webz-of-inter, and I learned of a chemical called 'chloramine' that is used to purify tap water nowadays. Anyways, it will not evaporate off of your water by leaving it out for a day, but it is an oxidative free radical, and can be nutralized by vitamin C (Asorbic Acid - a well-known antioxidant).

Vitamin C is an acid. You mix it in with your water, and it lowers the pH. You see, gentlemen, now you have a twofer solution! Your water becomes acidic, and you get rid of chloramine. I taste my water to see if it tastes just slightly sour, before watering. Acids are generally sour. This lets me know that my water is acidic.

This is bro science, bros. Not the science kind of science. However, I know for a fact that choramine can be neutralized by vitamin c with about 4 minutes of exposure or more.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24727320 - 10/21/17 03:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

hey woof how's your seedlings coming along?


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Re: Coca growers [Re: GlitchInSpace]
    #24727332 - 10/21/17 03:48 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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hey woof how's your seedlings coming along?




I have lost a couple to mold. My twins started to wilt, to the point of bending in half. I think its due to heat. Anyways, I put a humidity dome over them, and moved them away from the light. They lost their cotyledons, but the true leaves are surviving!

Other than that, I have like 9 of them that are glorious!

I will post pictures when I get a chance. Many of them are working on their second set of true leaves. I've come to understand that what I had identified as a humidity deficit previously, is actually a heat problem. These guys don't seem to like heat beyond 85F ime, and my tubs really head up the room. That combined with the 250W CFL, can make it quite warm for them.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24734484 - 10/24/17 04:38 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, this images suck. I usually find this seeds in the coca leaves bag. What do u think? Are this viable?





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Re: Coca growers [Re: Teonanacatl2]
    #24734716 - 10/24/17 06:12 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

This is how they would look if i could take a picture of better quality



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Re: Coca growers [Re: Teonanacatl2]
    #24735500 - 10/25/17 12:32 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Only one way to test viability and that is to sow them or do a sprout test.

To do a sprout test: Soak in water overnight, drain water. Rinse seeds with water a few more times and drain excess. Put lid on the jar and place in a suitable environment(dark or light<<Dependant on plant species and warm temperatures). Wait for them to sprout. If they sprout, you have viable seed.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: karode13]
    #24736775 - 10/25/17 02:22 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt it they die very quickly from fresh but nothing ventured nothing gained give thrm a soak and a plant maybe youll get lucky


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Re: Coca growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24738162 - 10/26/17 01:08 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

That is my experience as well, they really don't tend to be viable past the initial sprouting in sphagnum (in my case this starts when they are underway intercontinentally)

The leaf-wilting business is over here i'm very happy to say.. phew

I got a bigger bunch of seedlings coming up now than last batch which yielded 3/10 plants, although of course some may very well drop out again..
Was looking for T5 HO but found out they are thinner tubes so I wouldve had to get a new fixture - not interested - so I got normal CFL for seedlings, 2 again instead of 1 old one.

Going away for a couple of days showed me that I am generally overwatering plants (not the Novo's though, ive been aware of them loving a bit of drought from the start) and which ones in particular...

Also I got my COB running without failsafe blinking after switching the graphite heatpad for thermal paste, and some of my plants are *really* taking off! Others I will keep growing under blue-white LED in order to keep them small and stocky so they fit.

The point is: I put one novo at the edge of this lighting to carefully see how it responds. You can see it at the front on the bottom tier... the other two are up on the plateau close to the LED. Maybe I should put one back under CFL (i moved them because conditions in general just didn't seem great like the temperature..) that way I can really see what is best..





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Re: Coca growers [Re: Solipsis]
    #24738234 - 10/26/17 02:10 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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The point is: I put one novo at the edge of this lighting to carefully see how it responds. You can see it at the front on the bottom tier... the other two are up on the plateau close to the LED. Maybe I should put one back under CFL (i moved them because conditions in general just didn't seem great like the temperature..) that way I can really see what is best..







Wow! I love that cabinet man. Did you build that yourself? Does it have fans built into it? I would imagine the lights build up quite a bit of heat, if it doesn't. I have discovered, with my own novos, that they really don't like heat, and cold is deadly. I would try to keep them somewhere between 65F-75*F, if possible. I don't think humidity has actually been the culprit for me in the past. I think it was due to temperature fluctuations, or too high/too cold of temperature.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24738794 - 10/26/17 10:45 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

^^^ I've heard others say the same thing about novos being so cold sensative. I really need to bring mine upstairs this winter like I did last year. It gets into the low to mid 50s in my basement.


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