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Invisiblejellyfish


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: valec]
    #27080168 - 12/09/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks. No way for me to get rain water without melting snow so I have been pH adjusting my water to be like rain. Maybe I will pick up some coir. I was going to just use pro mix, the stuff without nutrients and maybe mix in a small amount of worm castings.

The stems are so thin I've afraid of breaking them during transplant


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: jellyfish]
    #27080576 - 12/09/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I started mine in a mix of coir and sand, so they were easy to pull out with the help of a spoon for transplanting, even when still small. Don't transplant all of them at once in case you do something wrong. Transplant one first, see if it does well, then do the next one.

If you don't have rain water, get some demineralized water. They really hate calcium, even if the acidity is right.

My rain water has pH 5.5 and of course no calcium. At least one of my two plants is very happy with that. Tap water has killed one. (I have only two left, one of which is really not doing well. Gave it the soil mix with less coir, the one that's in almost pure coir is doing fine.)


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: valec]
    #27084387 - 12/11/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Okay I am glad you mentioned this because I thought the main issue with tap versus rain water was acidity but I wasn't thinking about water hardness. I'll get some demineralized water ASAP.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: jellyfish]
    #27084416 - 12/11/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

pure water pH is 7, rain is 5,5 since it has stuff like CO2 and maybe sulphur compounds, tap or pit water can be high ph and hard due to stuff like calcium carbonate


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: jellyfish]
    #27084514 - 12/11/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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jellyfish said:
Okay I am glad you mentioned this because I thought the main issue with tap versus rain water was acidity but I wasn't thinking about water hardness. I'll get some demineralized water ASAP.




Yea my water comes out at around 7 here so I adjust it down to 5.5 but I've never checked the hardness.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: jellyfish]
    #27086471 - 12/12/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The stems are so thin I've afraid of breaking them during transplant




Yeah, wait until they have woody stems before you transplant, around 6-8 months old.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: jellyfish]
    #27087070 - 12/13/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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jellyfish said:
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jellyfish said:
Okay I am glad you mentioned this because I thought the main issue with tap versus rain water was acidity but I wasn't thinking about water hardness. I'll get some demineralized water ASAP.




Yea my water comes out at around 7 here so I adjust it down to 5.5 but I've never checked the hardness.




Well, you may be lucky and have nice soft water. My tap water is rather hard, and I can testify that it kills coca plants very efficiently. They really hate calcium.

And in my experience, they also hate too much nutrients. Compost only to be mixed into the soil in small amounts, fertilizer generally diluted to half-strength. Or better, slow-release fertiziliers for green plants and palms (that contain some iron and magnesium) seem to work well for me.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: valec]
    #27093819 - 12/17/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Looked up hardness in my city and apparently average is 120 mg/L. Which is not soft. Thanks for letting me know, don't want to kill these. I haven't transplanted yet I am thinking of doing it today. They are looking healthy.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: jellyfish]
    #27094443 - 12/17/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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jellyfish said:
Looked up hardness in my city and apparently average is 120 mg/L. Which is not soft. Thanks for letting me know, don't want to kill these. I haven't transplanted yet I am thinking of doing it today. They are looking healthy.




Good luck. Coco choir or another substrate without too much nutrients, and a bit of acidic soil (e.g., rhododendron soil) should be your friends. Perlite or something similar, too. Let me know how it goes.

The healthier one of mine came back with force. It's growing really fast now. So it's true, they go deciduous, you freak out, they come back stronger than before.

However, the sickly one of the two has still not pushed out more than tow tiny tiny leaves. They grow very very slowly though, so I have hope that it will catch up again.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: valec]
    #27116157 - 12/30/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

My happy E. coca lost a lot of leaves recently, than pushed out a lot of new growth and branching, then after about 4 weeks of strong growth coming almost to a rest. But not losing any leaves, so I'm fine with that. Hoping to get a nother burst of growth as soon as days get significantly longer and warmer.

My unhappy E. coca lost all its leaves, then remained dormant for some weeks, until finally pushing out new growth close to the ground. The top branches however have all shriveled. But the new growth seems strong, so it seems it survived the bad times. Still, something must have been wrong. The other one also lost many leaves, but no branches. This unhappy second plant was almost dead...

Also have some seedlings growing, to support the team :smile:.


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Re: E. coca loosing leaves [Re: valec]
    #27143340 - 01/12/21 08:16 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Update: 4 new E. coca seedlings are growing.

Interesting fact: those started unter strong LED growlights (36W) have only become half a high as the ones just by the window before dropping the seed coat. I take it as a good sign that they are becoming sturdier and stronger, not thin and long as much as my other plants.


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Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: valec]
    #27144457 - 01/12/21 07:01 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

I didnt snap many pic of my erys this summer and they look crapy right meow but here is one of the seedlings started over the winter in the pique of summer they love these fabric pots.



Edited by bw86 (01/12/21 07:45 PM)


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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: bw86]
    #27152336 - 01/16/21 10:15 PM (3 years, 12 days ago)

What is the season for berries?


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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: durian_2008]
    #27232312 - 03/01/21 04:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Can't sat anything on the season for berries...

I have two plants, one of which a few months ago died almost completely. About two months ago it started pushing out just one inch above ground and grew well for some time. But now it's stuck again, no more new growth showing, the old leaves slightly going more yellow. I'm worried that it goes through another cycle of shriveling branches now, which it probably wouldn't survive. What causes this stops in growth? Should I fertilize more?


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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: valec]
    #27381098 - 07/09/21 08:02 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

First flowers and berries of the season. :sunny:




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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: turtle_hermit]
    #27381678 - 07/10/21 09:47 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I could swear that I had found a fresh, red berry in SWIM's driveway, during the colder months.

Although, we would normally expect things to fruit in the warmer months.


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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: durian_2008]
    #27395029 - 07/20/21 11:51 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

one of those two little plants I showed a while ago.

Indoors under some LED lights. Stem is pretty weak, had to twist tie it to a pencil for now, lol. Not looking so awful though. Growth was slow until I transplanted 2 weeks ago and it's been looking vibrant since.

The other one is doing well too, just a bit smaller.

Finally got humidity domes off of them and now they just sit in open air. It's not very humid where they are growing. It fluctuates and some days it's high but with A/C on it's like 50%.



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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: jellyfish]
    #27395675 - 07/20/21 07:51 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Looking good, jellyfish.
I find these plants are difficult to get out of the seedling stage.
Once the stem is woody and stronger, you are usually over most of the hurdles.


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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: turtle_hermit]
    #27396427 - 07/21/21 10:38 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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turtle_hermit said:
Looking good, jellyfish.
I find these plants are difficult to get out of the seedling stage.
Once the stem is woody and stronger, you are usually over most of the hurdles.




Thanks.


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Re: Erythroxylum growers unite [Re: jellyfish]
    #27398450 - 07/22/21 08:11 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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jellyfish said:
one of those two little plants I showed a while ago.

Indoors under some LED lights. Stem is pretty weak, had to twist tie it to a pencil for now, lol. Not looking so awful though. Growth was slow until I transplanted 2 weeks ago and it's been looking vibrant since.

The other one is doing well too, just a bit smaller.

Finally got humidity domes off of them and now they just sit in open air. It's not very humid where they are growing. It fluctuates and some days it's high but with A/C on it's like 50%.





Some beautiful novogranatense?


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