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moonlightmushrooms
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: micelio]
#23400327 - 07/01/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is one weird thread, is someone trolling with an Alt?
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weetsie
unlicensed tub surgeon



Registered: 05/08/11
Posts: 572
Loc: United Kingdom
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I imagine it's an alt not wishing to associate a legitimate business startup with their entheogenic antics.
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Shroom4Profit
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: weetsie]
#23449649 - 07/17/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ok so I took the advice given and did lots of reading.... I apologize for anyone I may have been rude to. My terminology was really off and I am sure that made my questions seem pretty incoherent. Sorry for that. So let me try to start this over. Yes I want to start a commercial mush farm. I am a novice with very little experience. I have spent over 200 hrs. now reading and taking in information as was suggested. I read GGMM from stamets and TMC childers and stamets. I have read many threads as well. I have a better understanding on terminology I may still get it mixed up from time to time. I was talking about LS syringes. Enough people have shared marty's opinion so sadly I am going to build a flow hood and get into agar work. I am nervous and excited about this process. I have only studied clean technique and not practiced it. That is why I wanted to avoid agar. 1. It's very time consuming. 2. for someone with A.D.D. it's easy to get distracted and screw up when your mind is racing. 3. I have gotten many different opinions on space and how I should use it divide it. I want a small lab area for my flow hood and inoculations of mycobags or jars. I need a fruiting room and inncubation room. My big question is how should I divide this space? I am correct in saying though there is a man who lives less than 100 miles from me who is using LS syringes to inoculate his grain jars and is growing oysters commercially. He is on you tube and he's making pretty decent money out of a pretty small operation, about half the size of the one I am trying to build. That being said I am going to try agar. Clean technique scares the crap out of me though, but I guess I am going to have to get comfortable with it and practice. Any suggestions on how to practice my technique for clean work? Also, for pouring or no pour technique for agar can anyone share an opinion?
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micelio
Song of Silence


Registered: 04/22/14
Posts: 1,547
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My advice is view RR videos (Roger Rabbit)
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/
One part agar with two part patience ....
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drake89
Mushroom Magnate



Registered: 06/26/11
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: micelio]
#23449861 - 07/17/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Practice practice practice. Only difference between the master and novice is the master has failed more times than the novice has tried. Still not sure what you mean by LS but if you want to make your own spawn then a flowhood and agar are essential. You know you're gonna have to invest a lot of time and money before you get any back right? Like thousands and months or years of mostly unpaid labor.
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Shroom4Profit
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: micelio]
#23449871 - 07/17/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for the suggestion, however I was planning on using straw logs not cakes.
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SpinScratch
Distrusted Cultivator



Registered: 07/26/13
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just dive right in bro... whats so scary about agar? Just pour some plates and put some cultures on it. If you fail, you fail. Big deal, learn from it and try again.
I know youre trying "start a mushroom farm" but start out small first. Buy an Oyster LC, put a few drops on agar, put the rest of it on grain, and make a couple oyster logs and see how it goes. Take what youve learned from that experience and do a bigger grow next time with the agar you had inoculated... repeat.
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drake89
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Quote:
Shroom4Profit said: Thank you for the suggestion, however I was planning on using straw logs not cakes.
i know when starting out you'll meet a lot of people that think you're not a "real" mushroom farmer if you don't make your own spawn. it's kind of true that if you're growing exotic stuff like pinks you'll need to do that since spawn from aloha is quite expensive.
but the cost of blue oyster spawn from amycel is like a $1 per pound. and it's always good so you won't have to spend on a lab to do straw logs. i would find the closest distributor near you and buy a box to do some test batches with. you do have to call to order and mail a check.
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Shroom4Profit
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: drake89]
#23450316 - 07/17/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LS Liquid Sporess. Or so I have been told... and yes drake I have heard that so that's why I changed my mind. I wasn't necessarily wanting to get into agar. And yes I know it takes a while to turn a profit and get ahead I am prepared for that. I have more to learn I guess I have to agree with spin. Only way I am going to learn is hands on. I was going to start out running just one bale of hay see what it produces and go from there...
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SpinScratch
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no... LC = liquid culture. Forget about spores.
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Shroom4Profit
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Registered: 06/27/16
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Should I do agar and LC just so I have a master or isolate for lack of a better word backup in case of contamination?
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Shroom4Profit
Stranger

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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: weetsie]
#23450960 - 07/17/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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moonlightmushrooms said: This is one weird thread, is someone trolling with an Alt?
I imagine it's an alt not wishing to associate a legitimate business startup with their entheogenic antics. 
I assure you I am no alt or troll and I don't have a business to be associated with yet. I have already told everyone this is a start up not a running business. I haven't thought of a name for it yet, I am kicking around a few and trying to pick one. I love how people say "We will share info, we will help if we can, we are here to advise people then when someone earnestly comes looking for this help/advice they get accused of wrong doing. Let me assure you I am as ethical as they come. I read the info that was suggested to me. and I started asking the questions as well I am able to with the best of intentions. I even apologized and tried to start fresh... and I started asking the questions as well I am able to with the best of intentions. I'm not mad and hopefully none of you are either. Please don't make accusations against my character such as troll or alt...
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weetsie
unlicensed tub surgeon



Registered: 05/08/11
Posts: 572
Loc: United Kingdom
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It was a tongue is cheek comment, sorry if that didn't come across like that and I certainly wasn't accusing you of doing anything unethical.
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Shroom4Profit
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: weetsie]
#23451961 - 07/18/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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NP Weetsie. I just wanted to let everyone know I am 100% for real. After reading the materials I did and rereading this thread I would probably make fun of me too lol. So thanks to anyone still willing to offer advice and for giving me a second chance it is much appreciated. I know I'm rolling the dice here and believe me there are reasons for it, I won't go into details but I am willing to work as hard and as many hours as necessary to get this venture started and working as well I can make it work. Thanks to all for the advice.
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anthiawe
friendly stranger


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Shroom4Profit
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Re: Oysters Commercial [Re: anthiawe]
#23481749 - 07/27/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah drake99 I was trying to avoid agar work, but through reading and asking questions I have learned it's pretty much unavoidable. I have also been advised to try some lc storage. I am thinking of trying cornstalks, cobs, and shucks instead of straw as my substrate. I might try a little of both at first see which one my myc and mush prefer and time to cultivate. Lots of studying/practicing to do.
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Gr0wer
always improving



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Start off with pasteruized straw. Heat or lime pasteruized.
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