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25i hitting my city hard
    #23391724 - 06/28/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I want to take a gun to whoever is selling this as acid.
My friend ended up dosing 3 tabs and only found out today (days after) that he had taken a dangerous RC, after I told him what he took. He mentioned the trip being oddly visual-centered and not very headfucky. I asked if it was bitter, yup.

Now i'm hearing from another friend that someone he knew almost died from 25i last weekend.

Let's hope this blows over.
I fucking hate this shitty drug.
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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23391754 - 06/28/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I did nBOMe half a dozen times never had any negative side effects myself.
Maybe I didn't take enough. :shrug:


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse] * 1
    #23391758 - 06/28/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Gunz r bad, didnt you get the memo?


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23391764 - 06/28/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Fools Crow said:
I did nBOMe half a dozen times never had any negative side effects myself.
Maybe I didn't take enough. :shrug:



Yeah, but when it's sold under the assumption that it is LSD, there is a greater potential for overdose. As people will take 5 tabs of LSD with few negative side effects. If the 25i is dosed strong, those same 5 tabs could be potentially damaging.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23391779 - 06/28/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

True that. First time I went to buy LSD I got sold nBOMe. Probably bought 3-4 hits seperately before I realized it wasn't actually acid. Bitter taste gave it away and I think I came on here back in 2011 or 2012 and asked about it. :tongue2:

But yeah selling it as LSD is fucked. That said I think a lot of dealers might not even know, at least the small time ones that get it from the middlemen. I mean unless they try it themselves, or buy it, they wouldn't know, and even if they did try is some might not even know the difference. Kid I got it from seemed pretty oblivious. But who knows.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: Fools Crow] * 1
    #23391826 - 06/28/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone moving even medium amounts of acid without testing it are being dumb. I imagine that a majority of people selling it as acid at least have a vague idea that it's not LSD they are dealing with.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23391863 - 06/28/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Eh you're probably right. Probably buying in bulk for like $1/hit and flipping it for $10+. Fuckers that they are.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23391874 - 06/28/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

$1 a hit?! More like fucking 10 cents.
Shit is so cheap it's disgusting. That's why it's such a problem.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23391945 - 06/28/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's fuckin beat dude, fuck the N-bombs

That's why I don't even buy acid from people I don't trust anymore, I've never been N-bombed and I don't plan on it, it is fucked up how some people are trying to pass that garbage off as the real deal tho

This is why everyone who uses mystery drugs should have test kits and know how to use them, that way the fuckers selling the garbage would be flushed out but that probably won't happen


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23391960 - 06/28/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No need to test Nbomes
Key with acid is always start with just one tab and add more if you don't see any warning signs. Put it on tongue... if it's bitter spit it out.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23391971 - 06/28/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

But I've had pretty many people tell me that by the time they noticed it tasted bitter and nasty it was too late, they still got it in their system and tripped even though they spat it out


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23391978 - 06/28/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

True.
Luckily it's hard to cram an overdose of nbome onto a single tab so if you start with one you will atleast survive, and then spit it out for precaution.

Not saying you won't trip. But the trip itself isn't horrible, the overdose ceiling is.
Regardless, testing is the best way to tell for sure, and yeah I don't think ingesting any of that stuff can be good for you.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23392001 - 06/28/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's just so unnecessary

Real L is in plentiful supply these days, you just have to know where to find it and how to confirm that it is in fact LSD (test kit)


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse] * 1
    #23392213 - 06/28/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The problem with NBOMes is that it has caused serious to fatal side effects from regular (not over) and even light doses, a single hit of <1mg. Whereas other dangerous drugs are at least predictable by having a range of reasonably safe doses, NBOMes really don't.

Cheaper than $0.10/hit too :crazy: Grams are usually less than $100 to as cheap as $20, and $100 is still only $0.05 per 0.5mg. Fortunately they are steadily decreasing in availability with users becoming more educated on their risks, and the availability of RC lysergamides.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: DustBunny] * 1
    #23392218 - 06/28/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

last time i took an nbome was in 2012, and that was the last time i ever plan on taking one ever


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23392236 - 06/28/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What video game is that in your avatar?

NBOMe isn't as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be, but it's certainly dangerous and should never be sold as acid. It does have nasty side effects, and people have died during overdose, but I would say it's probably only slightly more dangerous than the 2CT series. The fact that people have been selling it as acid for years and relatively few people have died (compared to the thousands or tens of thousands who have taken it) even with irresponsible use shows its not as dangerous as people think.

Another problem with NBOMe is that some people are waaaay less affected by it than others. 500ug of 25i completely obliterates me whereas some people were laying blotter with 1.5mg and saying they took 2 or 3. I have no doubt that a 1mg blotter could potentially kill a person, but we're talking maybe 1 in 1000. That's still a lot of deaths if thousands of people take it, but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

I'm very curious about which specific NBOMes people are still distributing. It's possible that 25c or 25d are more or less lethal than 25i (I would suspect less having used all 3). Still it probably doesn't vary by much.

It's a shame the NBOMes are such a disaster.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: nooneman]
    #23392249 - 06/28/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's pixel art created to fit an aesthetic called vaporwave.

I don't think it's unfortunate really, it's not like the drug is all that great health risks aside, and there are always going to be toxic chems.

I think it's shitty that people are selling it as acid still, and that somehow people still remain oblivious.

Curious if NBOH was ever proven more or less toxic than nbome.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23392271 - 06/28/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It had a lot of potential. Here was an entire category of drugs with all sorts of variants (NBOH etc.) that were all extremely active and all had different effects, only to come to find out that they're all probably toxic. That really sucks. There are a TON of drugs related to the NBOMe, and it looks like they're probably all shit. So much potential, wasted.

Also, I did have very memorable experiences with 25i, 25c, and 25d. I wouldn't do them again, but I did have good psychedelic experiences with all 3. At high doses, all of them were very unique and very interesting. Not as deep or as profound as most psychedelics, but very good experiences. Especially with 25c. I wouldn't mind exploring both 25c and 25d further if they weren't as toxic as they are.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: nooneman]
    #23392277 - 06/28/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Very unique?
I was under the impression they were difficult to distinguish and the d variant was more or less junk.

I tried 25c of both nbome and nboh.
Enjoyed the NBOH more, and to be honest it wasn't a "bad" trip, but it was mostly just visuals and even the visuals weren't very deep.


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Re: 25i hitting my city hard [Re: ModestMouse] * 1
    #23392287 - 06/28/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

25c and 25i are very different. 25d is a pretty generic psychedelic, but 25i and 25c are unique enough that you would never mistake either for 25d.

25i causes very 3d hallucinations and other unusual visual effects, very strange closed eye hallucinations and thoughts. Also it's insanely shallow. I don't think it's possible to have a deep thought on 25i.

25c has an MDMA like edge with beautiful visuals.

25d was very generic as a psychedelic, but it was clearly a phenethylamine, not like a tryptamine at all. Maybe the "psychedelic tofu" aspect of 2CD carries over to 25d.


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