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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Patlal]
    #23394854 - 06/29/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Of course universal health care is the way to go. Everybody that has it love it. Everybody that doesn't have it wants it and then there's good old USA turning their backs on what would be good for them (yet again). But it doesn't matter anymore, the US is broke, they can't afford anything right now.




you can't argue with freedom patlal, don't try, they hate it


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23394886 - 06/29/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I work over 40 hours a week and get insurance through "the marketplace" for something like $20/month....

I don't understand this system one bit.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Konyap]
    #23394936 - 06/29/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Come on man
that's just a little population control




Bottleneck healthcare at one end, offer unrestricted abortion at the other.

Burn the candle at both ends.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: kakashi68]
    #23395026 - 06/29/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Why would anyone in their right mind pay all the above expenses just to be copycatted for pennies on the dollar?




The people in Africa who buy the copycatted medicines weren't the ones the drugs were marketed for, the drugs are marketed to rich first world customers and poor third worlders are intended to die without having had the benefit of these medications.

So no, no mercy on Big Pharma.




I'm not a fan of big pharma my self. They got control of the substances and they fucking know it! They are legal drug producers. backed by a giant fucking turd.

Why can't I as a individual take my medical knowledge, pick up a medically inclined book and diagnose myself if I'm feeling sick or think I have a ailment then take the substances I need for it with out visiting a legal drug deal (doctor)?

The idea here is that we are to stupid to do it our selves and can't decide or be trusted for which drug or substances we need so if we diagnose our selves we have to visit a legal drug dealer (aka Doctor) just to have to be re diagnosed, get the same exact result's and on top of every thing pay hard EARNED money for it.

Tell me why am I denied my rights to take care of my self with out being dependent on a legal drug dealer?

Because people are to scared of what would happen if we legalized substances?

You guy's realize that's why things like marijuana aren't legal every where right? This is a part of the reason. You realize this is why their trying to create criminals out of Kratom users and give people possession charges for Kratom right?

It's because those substances allow people to medicate them selves after they feel they have had a proper diagnoses, by them selves. 

Can you imagine a ENTIRE population saying FUCK pain killers and fuck the legal drug dealers and fuck big pharma when it comes to pain killers and instead they just spend money on Kratom which is dirt cheap compared to kill their pains such as sore backs?

Imagine a entire population self medicating with out any extra charges. What the fuck would happen to the industry? They would lose money, power and control. Not every thing can be self diagnosed so don't get me wrong. I don't hate doctors. But I absolutely hate the controlling of substances and having to go threw middle men who decide if I can get what I need or not and charge me money for it.

Fuck the DEA. Fuck the FDA and fuck the United Nations. And fuck all you people that want to keep drugs illegal, kiss my ass.

Also.. this is not all directed towards you Asante.. sort of a rant..it's just the subject.. get's me going sometimes.




your serious right... like you actually believe what your typing there.

Man your culture is that fucked its scary. Medicine is very complex... Theres a reason why you need a decade of training just to get your foot in the door let alone specialise and be good at it. Medicine should be about helping the person, which is why your meant to go the doctor. But your culture is so fucking warped its just all about the pills rather than actually fixing the problem you just mask it.

Self medicating is bad... yes lets give everyone who wants oxy, unlimited supplies because there all in "severe pain" Your just being a selfish twat. Most of the population cant be trusted with drugs.... as we have it now people are abuse the fuck out of pills.




Your are a hypocrite. You support recreational substance use.

You don't believe in the legalization of substances yet you post a marijuana leaf in your signature and your on a magic mushroom forum. Your the cuckoo. Hypocrite.

All you can do is hate on something your not apart of. So since your not apart of it you fear it. You fear what you cannot understand.

You do realize that marijuana is famous for it's medical use right? You do realize that people self medicate with marijuana all around the world, don't you? I also hope you can see the fact that not all ailments are serious enough to have to be forced to see a doctor. Early I posted more serious matters you may want to see a doctor for. Your welcome to quote me otherwise.

If you pull a muscle it's not that complicated, idk why you feel the need to have mommy and daddy hold your hands. You know what people do when they pull a muscle or have back pain's? MANY people self medicate by smoking marijuana or using a substance like Kratom, till the pain subsides.

You obviously need mommy and daddy to hold your hand's if your suggesting you can't think for your self. What country are you apart of?

Also you keep missing the point. In a true free nation it absolutely 100% does not matter if people abuse medication or drugs. They can do what ever in the fuck they want. Responsible people use their substances responsibly. Irresponsible people use their substances irresponsibly regardless of legality. How can you not see that? Do you not have a black market where you live? Don't you get it? I wonder about people like you sometimes. The validity of your online persona.

As responsible adult's and consumers we should not have to suffer because other's want to abuse their body's irresponsibly.

Look every one, this guy curses a entire nation of people :

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ooo spew those lies, spew those horrible disturbingly wrong lies onto your shitty flag.

unregulated drugs is just stupid.....

Guns should be heavily regulated

Americans need to be heavily regulated UNTIL IT LEARNS TO GROW THE FUCK AND STOP BEING A SELFISH CHILD

YOU DONT DESERVE FREEDOM, YOUR FUCKED UP COUNTRY NEED RULES, BOUNDARIES, DISCIPLINE.

Freedom is for nations who are respectful, think others, not having a totally corrupt government. Freedom is for countries who support each other at the basic level by providing universal healthcare so its not your credit card that decides your treatment.

You dont deserve freedom til your country grows up and takes responsibility for its actions.




You guy's should not believe a word he say's, you can't trust some one this shity. He does not wish the best for people he wishes the worst, he wants destruction and fear.

Any one who read's that can see right threw your horse shit. At leat I can respect other nations and THEIR LAWS and THEIR RULES, I don't hate on how they run their nation's if they are free or not free or if they have universal health care or not. I don't hate on how your country is run or if your country is socialist or not. But just because my nation is a Constitutional republic and not socialistic you can't stand it. You can't take any thing or any one that's differnt. I bet you cant stand places like China neither. Let me tell you something, China is fucking awesome.  Because their government is probably not as supportive towards it's people than you would like. You can't stand at a distance and watch in aw and be okay with how those people live. Even tho not a God damn soul is making you live there or ever go visit. Some you like you CAN NOT celebrate diversity. You know what you are?

YOU FUCKING BIGOT!


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 1
    #23395047 - 06/29/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you are messed in the head... Doesnt fucking matter if your "diverse" if your fucking murdering your citizens like china does and blocking their human rights YOUR DOING IT WRONG.

Never said anything against medical marijuana... and neither did you. You said all drugs, all pharma drugs. Which is a very bad idea. Having a nation full of addicts is bad... it happened to china which is why they outlawed opium early on. Its basically still happening. Yes we should take steps to decriminalize drug use and make more options for treatment of addicts. But just legalising everything would be utterly stupid.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #23395071 - 06/29/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ive cut more lines than a retarded kid in disneyland.




Drugs should be illegal!



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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: kakashi68]
    #23395119 - 06/29/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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you are messed in the head... Doesnt fucking matter if your "diverse" if your fucking murdering your citizens like china does and blocking their human rights YOUR DOING IT WRONG.

Never said anything against medical marijuana... and neither did you. You said all drugs, all pharma drugs. Which is a very bad idea. Having a nation full of addicts is bad... it happened to china which is why they outlawed opium early on. Its basically still happening. Yes we should take steps to decriminalize drug use and make more options for treatment of addicts. But just legalising everything would be utterly stupid.




Every one on the shroomery can read the posts and spot your inaccuracy.
I'm pretty sure shroomery is a American based website btw.

BIGOT.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23395124 - 06/29/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

America is bad


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23395127 - 06/29/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Okay.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23395128 - 06/29/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
America is bad




no but it could be better, like any country imo


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23395133 - 06/29/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

America, the great, the terrible


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23395144 - 06/29/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
America, the great, the terrible




like I criticize a decent amount of american stuff, but to be fair there's a lot to dislike in Canada (imo pretty much everything between BC and Ontario is entirely forgettable for instance)
it's just this site is largely american so obviously topics focused on murica pop up way more and attract way more discussion, both reasonable and stupid alike


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23395150 - 06/29/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's a shame tho that people like OP just can't be okay with other nations being the way they are. The majority of people in China for example are strong nationalists and love their government.

Good for them right?

But no OP is no better than those people who CONSISTENTLY try to convert you to their religion.

He's just like the religious people. If your not like them your wrong and your going to hell. Take a good look at my signature OP, it pertains to your kind.

I made that as a joke but people like you would post it with seriousness.

If your not the same, it makes it okay for him to damn you or in this case entire nations.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23395185 - 06/29/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Op goes to a pharmacy called "chemist warehouse"?:confused:


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 2
    #23395213 - 06/29/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's a shame tho that people like OP just can't be okay with other nations being the way they are. The majority of people in China for example are strong nationalists and love their government.

Good for them right?

But no OP is no better than those people who CONSISTENTLY try to convert you to their religion.

He's just like the religious people. If your not like them your wrong and your going to hell. Take a good look at my signature OP, it pertains to your kind.

I made that as a joke but people like you would post it with seriousness.

If your not the same, it makes it okay for him to damn you or in this case entire nations.




People in china like their government.... omg you are so uncultured its hilarious. Its because muricans never learn anything about the world is why they have such a warped culture. They focus so much on themselves they get isolated and get all crazy.

Its just a fact murica is an arachic dinosaur child that refused to grow up and join the modern world

You still use imperial measurements, the only country in the world to use Fahrenheit
You still allow criminals and basically everyone to purchase miltiary weapons that no civilian could ever need.
You still make people pay for essential medical treatment
You still allow the church to influence laws and legislation
You still prevent women the choice to abort
You allow pill  ads on tv
Your government is corrupt as fuck
You police are corrupt as fuck


These are things that are wrong... There is a reason why we have the united nations and all these world peace organisations. There is a reason why we are disarming nukes(there is another thing you still cant do) some countries just simply are stupid and sometimes things just need to change.

In australia pharmacies are called chemists. thats no me anyway i dont have MS....

But just think about that... imagine if any adult could just buy heroin, meth, coke, speed, oxy ect. You really think thats a good idea? You really think that wouldnt cause MAJOR problems in workplaces?


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: kakashi68]
    #23395215 - 06/29/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think it's bout that time


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #23395284 - 06/29/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

America is an "archaic dinosaur child", WTF? You are terrible at metaphor.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23395459 - 06/29/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What's wrong with that metaphor?

Who doesn't own an archaic dinosaur child. It's 2016 get with the times.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Shroomism]
    #23395460 - 06/29/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That proves nothing

:shrug:

I don't think you're using that word right.

My blue jeans cost more than I wanted to pay,  That's total proof that free jeans are necessary




In my quick google search, one year of treatment runs about $62,000 for multiple sclerosis.




That seems too cheap for America.

I knew a guy who was in the hospital for a couple weeks without insurance after an accident and his bill was like 250,000+





about 11 years ago my ex wife was in the ICU for 2 weeks with pneumonia and
another week in a regular room, I never received a bill from the hospital, no
calls from collection agencies, nothing on my credit report or hers. for some
reason people like to believe that there is no free healthcare in the US.


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Re: This image is total proof that universal healthcare is nesscary. [Re: Patlal]
    #23395535 - 06/29/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Of course universal health care is the way to go. Everybody that has it love it.






even the men that died from breast cancer because the universal healthcare system
says that men cannot develop breast cancer and were refused treatment, what about
the many people that have died while trying to appeal similar decisions by the
universal healthcare death panel, do you think they loved it?




Absolutely. They loved every minute of it.

Death panels... LOL


No system is perfect man. But there are some that are obviously better than others.

EDIT: I'll be honest here. I had to google death panel to know what it was. No that I know what it is, the only thing I can answer to that is "Do you think this is North Korea?"




guess what, every insurance company has a death panel, of course they dont call
it that but essentially it's what it is, the insurance companies set a dollar
value on your life, once you exceed that dollar amount they will not cover
anymore of your expenses, the last 2 insurance companies I had set the amount at
$3 million, if they had to pay out more than $3mil to keep you alive then it's
no longer worth their efforts in writing checks, clearly the dollar amount is
lower in the socialized medical systems and they're more frequent to turn you
dont for coverage on rare and unusual illnesses and cancers

now here's an example of socialized medicine at work, a Thai girl goes to the
hospital in Australia, aussieland has a single payer system, she's not a citizen
so this system doesnt apply to her and she has to pay for the services, because
she has to pay out of pocket she pays an exorbitant fee, 5 times the amount she
would pay if she were being treated in thailand who recently moved away from a
greatly subsidized system in which you present a card, pay $1 (35 baht) and you
receive treatment, now they're on a system similar to the US in which you can
have private insurance pay or you'll be receiving bills for the care


now, people love to bash the US healthcare system but it works, if an illegal
alien goes to the hospital he's treated, if a tourist goes to the hospital
they're treated, if a citizen goes to the hospital, they're treated, it doesnt
matter your ability to pay, you receive treatment, if you cant afford the
treatment the hospital will work with you to get the bills paid and it's nothing
more than filling out forms and making a few phone calls. if that's too much for
someone to handle then it simply goes on their credit. the hospital doesnt seize
your assets but the US government will if you're on medicare/medicaid and you
exceed what you've paid in, they take you shit and sell it to recoup the
difference, that is socialized medicine in the US. that is why many in the US do
not want medical payments handled by the government, others simply dont wat to
pay for your liver transplant because you decided that heavy drinking should be
a way of life


keep in mind that there's a reason people leave canada for life saving treatments

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/if-i-were-still-in-b-c-i-would-be-dead-canadian-man-saved-by-liver-transplant-in-hong-kong


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