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Sketch Turner
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Wanted: Bubble Hash Tek
#23391625 - 06/28/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright ODD, I'd really appreciate it if someone could share with me an effective and simplistic extraction technique for bubble hash, or another smokeable form, using leaf as a precursor. Ordinarily I just make hash oil, but my brother in-law wants me to make him some nice hash, he'll buy the bags or whatever is necessary. I owe him one so it'd be really cool if I could sort him out.
Thanks in advance to anyone can help me out, the videos I have watched are either overly-complicated and require large quantities of plant matter, or just look plain wasteful. I've heard of decent hash being produced with these freezer bags, or something like that.
.... 5 shroom rating for anyone who can help me.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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What I always did was to freeze material and mildly shake of the resin that comes off easily through a fine mesh and soak the rest in petrol ether for a timing of your choice and filter. Dump resin into petrol ether and evaporate.
There you go with homogenous, soft and especially record yield hash.
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This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.
Reason: Cannabis-related threads belong in The Psychedelic Experience forum.
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Sketch Turner
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It's extremely difficult to obtain non-polar solvents over here, besides, as I said I extract honey oil myself using ice cold isopropanol, I'm doing this for someone else; although I will be trying some of course.
Man, I hope this sub-forum can help me, I really think ODD would be more knowledgable on this, no offence everyone.
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Try looking into bubble bags. A series of bags that have micron mesh on the bottom, each stage of bag has a finer mesh. Put your bags in a five gallon bucket with water, ice and your product. Grab a hand held blender and blend that shit up to knock off all the trichromes. Lift the bags and what your left with on the mesh is your hash. Let it dry and enjoy.
A Google search pulls up many choices. Hope this helps.
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Re: Wanted: Bubble Hash Tek [Re: HamHead]
#23392786 - 06/29/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah dude bubble bags are the best, to make bubble hash you're going to need bubble bags. All you need is the bags, plant material, ice and water. The last bag will take some time to drain the water through (depending on how much plant matter you started with), because it is a very fine mesh and has lots of goodies on it, but this is the best of the hash.
Good luck
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Sketch Turner
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Re: Wanted: Bubble Hash Tek [Re: HamHead]
#23393106 - 06/29/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks you two, that was the method I had in mind, seems quite simple, going to give it a go over the next couple of weeks.
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Sweet man. The best hash I've had is the bubble hash I made. After you have compressed the hash together (after drying and don't mix them together), you can see which block has the least amount of plant matter by how much it bubbles Especially the stuff you get in the last couple of bags, you can break of a little bit to smoke and mould it into a little pancake (the hash is nice and soft and not hard solid blocks) to sit perfectly in your cone piece.
Would love to hear how it goes. You should freeze the leaf/bud overnight or longer before to and cold water from the fridge, the colder everything is at the start can make a big difference. And the longer you leave the bud/leaf in the water, the more you get, but it will have more plant matter in it - quantity over quality thing here. Always can repeat the process again, just time consuming.....
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Sketch Turner said: Thanks you two, that was the method I had in mind, seems quite simple, going to give it a go over the next couple of weeks.
I got a really cheap 5 bag set of bags off ebay awhile back which have worked well for me. The biggest factors with making good bubble hash are quality of trim and consistency. If you have really dry and or not very sugary leaves making bubble hash may not be very worthwhile. If its just dry you can rehydrate it to try and get a cleaner yield.
I generally just stir for 15-25 minutes manually to try and get higher quality hash over a bigger yield.
Another thing to consider is even smaller bags are still pretty big so unless you have a solid amount of leaf it isn't very worth it honestly.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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Sucks that you can't get non polars. Only electro cars where you live? Must be in the future. Tell me how Donald started WW3 on muslims and if you'll free europe, too.
I wouldnt spend any money on that. Fuck bubble bags, all they do is filter and you dont need to filter anything. Use Gumbie method. Uses gravity and no fancy shit. Made prime stuff with that, but the yield of all those ice water methods is sorry without solvent extraction of the leftovers.
Edited by Murzelpfrumpft (06/29/16 02:30 PM)
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Murzelpfrumpft said: Sucks that you can't get non polars. Only electro cars where you live? Must be in the future. Tell me if Donald started WW3 on muslims and if you'll free europe, too.
I wouldnt spend any money on that. Fuck bubble bags. Use Gumbie method. Uses gravity and no fancy shit. Made prime stuff with that, but the yield of all those ice water methods is sorry without solvent extraction of the leftovers.
Compare pics of that black rock hash ball made by that method to some well made bubble bag hash like this:

No need to spend money on solvents, its a quick and simple process and here is a 5 bag set for 27$ with free shipping: 5 bag set
Those are identical to the ones I have and have made some of the best full melt I have ever smoked with, if you use them properly they will last a lifetime...
How are bubble bags "fancy shit"?
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Sketch Turner
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What's the Gumbie method? I normally do dabs of honey oil made with ice cold 99% isopropanol, however I don't have a rig at the moment so I can only made edibles with the extract.
My mate has quite a bit of leaf and he's interested in making a smokable resin. I guess I won't know if it's worth it until we've tried it, going get the bags this week.
musiclover420: That's some nice looking hash, man, fair play.
Electricsoup: Thanks, you lot have given me a pretty good idea of what I've got to do, I think, I'll update this thread once we've given it a go.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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Fancy shit to me is anything beyond rye in cubensis cakes or using other additives for cannabis growing than bloom and vegetative fertilizer - or unnecessary pieces of equipment like bubble bags.
You may be right, the quality of a bubble bag made hash may be exceptional, but the methods I mentioned produce at least outstanding quality in a much higher quantity. I don't like the idea of filtering away potent material just to go from ridiculously potent to insanely potent.
Gumbie hash I made always bubbled upon heating, thus it's real bubble hash. It involves ice water and a drill with a little turbine in a bucket, swirling the material around, fishing out the floating plant material, allowing the resin to settle and siphoning off the water.
But I'd rather do it the other way I described, much higher yields of up to 20% of trim weight while dark brown and soft and with extraordinary aroma
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Sketch Turner
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I'm not too bothered if the yield isn't great, it's not my weed, however if it is nice I'll be doing some to my own stuff some time.
The method you described at first seems to basically be what everyone else is saying, except you do a solvent extract at the end to make sure you don't leave any THC behind; I don't see that as necessary but if it works for you then fair enough man.
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Murzelpfrumpft said: Fancy shit to me is anything beyond rye in cubensis cakes or using other additives for cannabis growing than bloom and vegetative fertilizer - or unnecessary pieces of equipment like bubble bags.
You may be right, the quality of a bubble bag made hash may be exceptional, but the methods I mentioned produce at least outstanding quality in a much higher quantity. I don't like the idea of filtering away potent material just to go from ridiculously potent to insanely potent.
Gumbie hash I made always bubbled upon heating, thus it's real bubble hash. It involves ice water and a drill with a little turbine in a bucket, swirling the material around, fishing out the floating plant material, allowing the resin to settle and siphoning off the water.
But I'd rather do it the other way I described, much higher yields of up to 20% of trim weight while dark brown and soft and with extraordinary aroma
That's how this gumbie hash is made, with a turbine in a bucket letting the resin settle to the bottom to be collected, off the bottom of the bucket??
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Re: Wanted: Bubble Hash Tek [Re: HamHead]
#23401375 - 07/01/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, is that so hard to understand? Are you too lazy to type that into a search enginge? There are even youtube videos on it. It's hash production via gravity separation. Try "Gumby" or "Gumbie" for searching.
The difference between what I am saying and what others are saying is that I don't think you should let yourself be tricked into thinking that you need any commercial product for the production of excellent material. Another main difference is that bubble bags FILTER the material, which leads to additional loss of potent material.
Some people like spending money and fetishizing on the 10% higher purity that can be achieved by wasting half of the material. I like cost and yield efficient teks instead.
Another, more technical approach would be this:
The best stuff I ever made was by using a rotator with a micron mesh at a very low speed, adding fine dry ice pellets to it. 20% yield (+8% by following solvent extraction). The colder it is, the less mechanical force one needs for getting the resin off the material. Lesser force equals higher purity.
Cost paid off through superb yield in one run.
Just play around and you'll see.
Edited by Murzelpfrumpft (07/01/16 03:03 PM)
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No, not hard to understand, thank you. Bubble bags work in a similar way, but instead of letting everything settle to the bottom all together, the bags let you separate the fine plant material from the resin filled trichomes, which essentially what hash is, the trichomes. I would think this gumbie method would yield a product that was full of fine plant material and just all together not very clean. Unless I'm missing something, I think if you've got the material, it's well worth investing in a product that will easily pay for itself fairly quickly.
Don't mean to bump heads or anything, to each their own. If it's floating your boat, keep it up. Many ways to skin cats here.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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Re: Wanted: Bubble Hash Tek [Re: HamHead]
#23407877 - 07/03/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What you are missing is that only objects which have a greater density than ice water sink to the bottom of the bucket. Since essentially no part of the plant besides the tiny resin heads sink down, the separation affords pure material in which I can not spot a single corn that wouldn't belong there.
The only effect of the bubble bags is to provide means of separation. Those are usually several differently sized meshes over each other. That means you are able to separate trichoma from 150 micron down to as little as 40 or 70 micron with the latter usually being more potent and softer. It's playing around by separating out the resin head by diameter.
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Yep bubble bags are the way to go! Find a good youtube video and follow. The bags, ice, bud and a a small 1x1 or 2x2 piece of wood too crunch it and all the frozen trichomes drop to the bottom.
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