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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Herbologist]
    #23391251 - 06/28/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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"Many" doesn't necessarily imply a majority.





Nope, but were not talking a few were talking millions.....



I'm not sure what you're getting at, who said anything about "a few"? Moonshoe was suggesting that racism was likely to have been a factor for "many" who voted that way, which really says very little in terms of actual numbers, and doesn't suggest he believes it was a majority of those 17 million. Conceivably it could even have been "millions" and still nowhere near a majority (e.g. 3 million out of the 17 million for an arbitrary example.) What qualifies as "many" people is almost totally subjective.

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi]
    #23391304 - 06/28/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not really sure the point of what you're saying.

I didn't declare it was a majority, I was asking him.


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Herbologist]
    #23391316 - 06/28/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You had said something like "I'm surprised to hear that coming from you", and then the only other thing you mentioned was asking about the majority thing. Maybe I misunderstood your comment, what was it that was surprising for you to hear from Moonshoe?

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi]
    #23391324 - 06/28/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It was just surprising, I don't usually see him say things that possibly accuse of racism.  So I thought I'd ask out of curiosity.


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Herbologist]
    #23391334 - 06/28/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

My mistake, from the way you put it I thought you meant that the "majority" thing was coming from him, and that that was what was surprising for him to claim.

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Herbologist]
    #23391348 - 06/28/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think he was saying that it wasn't racist


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23391405 - 06/28/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I took it as saying that there are a number of reasons people would want to leave the EU, and that racism likely was a factor for a not-insignificant number but definitely not all. Seems like a reasonable enough position to me.

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi] * 1
    #23391424 - 06/28/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

So, wanting to not be dictated to by some foreigners on the continent makes people raciest?
The word has no meaning and is used by social justice morons to shame and end arguments.


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi]
    #23391440 - 06/28/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I took it as saying that there are a number of reasons people would want to leave the EU, and that racism likely was a factor for a not-insignificant number but definitely not all. Seems like a reasonable enough position to me.




What race are immigrants? Did someone single out a specific race?

If your answer is yes, kindly explain how the animosity towards Polish immigrants is racist.


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23391448 - 06/28/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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So, wanting to not be dictated to by some foreigners on the continent makes people raciest?




No, but are you aware that "racist" and "raciest" are different words that don't mean anything remotely similar to each other?

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi] * 5
    #23391515 - 06/28/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23391517 - 06/28/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I took it as saying that there are a number of reasons people would want to leave the EU, and that racism likely was a factor for a not-insignificant number but definitely not all. Seems like a reasonable enough position to me.




What race are immigrants? Did someone single out a specific race?



My line of thinking on the matter is that the UK must contain some racists (as any country almost certainly does), and that it's likely that some of the people who wish to curtail immigration do hold racist beliefs. It's possible to be xenophobic without basing your rationale on a belief in negative traits genetically ingrained in a certain population though (or to harbor racist and xenophobic beliefs about some groups but be simply xenophobic towards others), and it's also possible to believe that immigration should be curtailed without harboring any ill will at all towards current or potential immigrants. I honestly have no idea what the breakdown may be in the case of the UK.

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If your answer is yes, kindly explain how the animosity towards Polish immigrants is racist.



Animosity towards Polish immigrants certainly is not necessarily racist. Slavic people have in the past been characterized by racist ideologues as inferior genetic stock, and I would guess that this belief has not disappeared entirely, so I would guess that animosity towards Polish immigrants in the UK may sometimes be genuinely racist. How much of the time I couldn't say, as I have never been there.

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi]
    #23391696 - 06/28/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks. I used you to try to get through to the twits that think that racism was the driver behind the Brexit. As there are immigrants of all ethnicities in the UK, the cries of 'racism' are once again... crap.

Are some racist? Sure. That doesn't mean all those who voted Leave are racist.


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23391706 - 06/28/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Thanks. I used you to try to get through to the twits that think that racism was the driver behind the Brexit. As there are immigrants of all ethnicities in the UK, the cries of 'racism' are once again... crap.

Are some racist? Sure. That doesn't mean all those who voted Leave are racist.




You dont understand. The oppositions argument has been destroyed by facts and logic.

Racism/xenophobia is the only recourse. Well maybe not recourse....

Death throwes maybe?

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Bubbles85]
    #23391790 - 06/28/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I joked with my mum about when she's being deported (She's Belgian), she didn't see the funny side of it.

I see this topic quickly turned into a "Muslims r cunts, innit" thread.

Blacks, Chinese, other Europeans, North Americans, they come here, and pretty much adapt to our culture and embrace it, and you can find them all in the pub (which is the epicentre of English/British Isles culture).

Won't find muslims there. They do not integrate






Maybe they just aren't drunken worthless trash like you people? Oh no they don't drink, are you fucking joking? I pop in a pub for a pint or two when I am over there but you people can't control your drinking and it's embarrassing for me as a white person. You should be embarrassed by your drunken louts instead of whining other people don't drink.



Says you shouldn't generalize an entire group of people in the Muslim world based on some their actions ....... Proceeds to generalize the entire British population :facepalm:




I can't speak for others but if they're having a good time and not doing harm, leave them to it. As for me, a pint or two with a meal, if I'm walking, then a bottle of wine.

Rather be smoking hash or weed than the drink though. Anyway, it's not just about not finding them in pubs. All the other migrant groups, with a few small exceptions (ultra orthodox jews, who, despite having lived in london for centuries, do not have london accents) get absorbed and integrate into the host culture. Not the case with muslims.

My feeling is when in Rome, do as the Romans do. When I have lived in France, Belgium or Germany, I wanted to live as they do, eat what they did, sing and dance to their music. When I am in England, I want English things. Within reason, I'd rather have beer than tea and I have no interest in the BBC, not now they ruined top gear which was the last show they put out of any entertainment.

I find it a bizarre and disrespectful senario when you go to the effort of leaving your homeland to emigrate/claim asylum in a country, then instead of being grateful and wanting to become a citizen of that country, start making demands that things be run like the shithole tyranny you were escaping from. If that place is so great, why did you leave?

And before anyone says "cos the US and the UK bombed the shit out of them, innit." Then why the fuck are you coming to the country that destroyed your home? It'd be like me living in Coventry, surviving the blitz, then going to Germany, claiming asylum, and complaining that "bratwurst tastes funny and your beer is too fizzy"


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Asante]
    #23391809 - 06/28/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sometimes we all make asses of ourselves, and often we don't know it. Racists take it to an epic level though. I have been literally doubled over my desk laughing my ass off watching Stormfronters trying to understand the non-white mind. Hilarious.




Thanks to them I learned of the term "race traitors". They're fond of the term "cuck" as well. And spend a lot of time backstabbing and being horribly mean.

Which is probably not news to most people but I listened to some of their speeches, and it's pretty much "Kill anyone not of my tribe, gotta get tough, no room for compassion, survival of the fittest."

Maybe all the paranoia over the white race dying is not so much us whites dying out, but them, the particularly poisonous parts of it. Can't get on with supremacists. Even if I think an entire culture is savage, because of something barbaric they do, or a lack of remorse, yeah, it's fucked, and yeah, I'll judge them for that, but, maybe the big picture is all of that fucked up shit will later on let them become a more compassionate people. Hopefully. Who can say?


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi]
    #23391832 - 06/28/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I took it as saying that there are a number of reasons people would want to leave the EU, and that racism likely was a factor for a not-insignificant number but definitely not all. Seems like a reasonable enough position to me.




What race are immigrants? Did someone single out a specific race?



My line of thinking on the matter is that the UK must contain some racists (as any country almost certainly does), and that it's likely that some of the people who wish to curtail immigration do hold racist beliefs. It's possible to be xenophobic without basing your rationale on a belief in negative traits genetically ingrained in a certain population though (or to harbor racist and xenophobic beliefs about some groups but be simply xenophobic towards others), and it's also possible to believe that immigration should be curtailed without harboring any ill will at all towards current or potential immigrants. I honestly have no idea what the breakdown may be in the case of the UK.

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If your answer is yes, kindly explain how the animosity towards Polish immigrants is racist.



Animosity towards Polish immigrants certainly is not necessarily racist. Slavic people have in the past been characterized by racist ideologues as inferior genetic stock, and I would guess that this belief has not disappeared entirely, so I would guess that animosity towards Polish immigrants in the UK may sometimes be genuinely racist. How much of the time I couldn't say, as I have never been there.





Just one quick point, the term slav is where we get the modern word slave from. Historically the roman empire, well, you can figure out the rest. It's where they got the name from.


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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Visionary Tools] * 1
    #23392757 - 06/29/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

British racists are fuming and have forgotten all about "the poles" and "the Muslim race" after getting knocked out of European football by that little island somewhere between American and Europe called Iceland.

I bet they only wish that more Icelanders live in the uk so they could give them "a good seeing to" and tell them all go home.

After all, someone has to go home and in this case, it was England.

Maybe football teach much humility.

Maybe not.

"You island monkey cunts" is what they might say.

That would be quite a conundrum, though.

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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23393453 - 06/29/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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religions arent races, they are ethnicities though




What have you got against the Christian race?




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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: psi]
    #23393463 - 06/29/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Moonshoe was suggesting that racism was likely to have been a factor for "many" who voted that way





moonshoe also thinks everyone is a racist but him

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