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jivangilad
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20 grams mushrooms is too much for me
#23391279 - 06/28/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see many statements that you need to consume 15 -35 gr. mushrooms fresh for a trip. I once consumed about 20 gr. and I was utterly confused. I didn't even know with which card I should open the door and could't distinguish my credit card from the one that opens the door. It was a very scary uncontrolled and dangerous experience. I take about 7, and it mild and nice. 10 I can handle and is pretty strong for me. So it seems I am more sensitive.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: jivangilad] 1
#23391313 - 06/28/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like an in-between dose to where you are too fucked up to understand anything/not quite sober, but not fucked up enough to not care that you can't understand anything.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: jivangilad]
#23391323 - 06/28/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It sounds like it's the combination of your environment and dosage that are giving you trouble, rather than the dosage itself. If you were in an environment in which it would be acceptable for you to become utterly confused, you might not find it so scary. When you take a higher dose like that, it's best to make sure that you won't have to worry about the difference between a credit card and a key card, sometimes that means having someone to trip sit you.
I hope your experience doesn't scare you away from exploring higher doses of psychedelics in the future. They can be very rewarding.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: healing]
#23391346 - 06/28/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds to me, like Op know what you're doing and talking about. What I get from psychedelics is to learn to think for myself.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: SoloTrip]
#23391358 - 06/28/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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20 g? like TWENTY GRAMS? jesus man i'm surprised you didn't kill yourself some how. I typically do 2-3g and trip plenty hard.
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He's talking g about fresh which would be equal to 2 or 3 grams dried. Maybe you're trying g to do too many things while high I stead of just letting the drug take you. Trying to do day to day things while tripping g can be extremely confusing or cause bad anxiety I find.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: SonicTitan]
#23391437 - 06/28/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some people are more sensitive to these things than others, and/or the batch of mushrooms you have may be very potent.
Either way it's a win win situation.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: Northerner]
#23392504 - 06/28/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is true that I can´t find time when I am completely free for the mushrooms. I did learn from this experience though that I shouldn´t be moving around too much while tripping. Anyway I do enjoy the microdosing and this is important. Anyway in whatever setting, even 15 gr will be hard to manage, and 20 will just be far too much.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: jivangilad]
#23392522 - 06/28/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I take a higher dose, I wanna make sure I'm not going out, I got a couple blankets (warmth and softness) and that everything is set before I trip. Usually includes getting a glass or something of water, a light snack, and being inside my house. Phone off or on silent (sometimes when tripping the buzzing scares me lol) lights off but ambient lighting somewhere (across the hall, maybe a small nightlight in my room) then I'll eat that shit, take a shower smoke some weed and by the time I'm done I'm tripping balls.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: Mike4aco]
#23392624 - 06/28/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to reach the state when tripping feels natural and integral. So this way I hope it wont be so scary. So doing mild doses slowly I learn to feel natural with it, just like I feel natural without it. That experience is not being imposed in me, but feels natural.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: jivangilad]
#23392667 - 06/28/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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jivangilad said: I see many statements that you need to consume 15 -35 gr. mushrooms fresh for a trip. I once consumed about 20 gr. and I was utterly confused. I didn't even know with which card I should open the door and could't distinguish my credit card from the one that opens the door. It was a very scary uncontrolled and dangerous experience. I take about 7, and it mild and nice. 10 I can handle and is pretty strong for me. So it seems I am more sensitive.
The effects ramp up exponentially, but if you're talking FRESH 20 g is nice but can be on the low side. 35 is about right as fresh has a potency advantage sometimes over dried. Fresh is about 1/10th the potency of dried though. 
Tripping can always be a bit scary no matter what and the mushrooms can always come along and kick your ass any time no matter what - it's not like there's some sort of guarantee about it.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: Mike4aco]
#23394861 - 06/29/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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jivangilad said: ...I once consumed about 20 gr. and I was utterly confused. I didn't even know with which card I should open the door and could't distinguish my credit card from the one that opens the door. It was a very scary uncontrolled and dangerous experience. .
What do you usually do through out your trips?...What do you do to plan before your trip?...Sounds like you need to plan/set out your trips a bit better, so you're not trying to figure out if a card is a credit card or one to open a door while in the middle of a trip.
I usually plan out my trips and get everything set beforehand so I literally don't really have to do anything while tripping besides lay around, everything is set in place and planned out so I don't have to "think" too hard to figure things out.. mike4aco explains how he goes about it pretty well, and this is pretty much exactly how I go about setting up my trips when at home/indoors>>>
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Mike4aco said: If I take a higher dose, I wanna make sure I'm not going out, I got a couple blankets (warmth and softness) and that everything is set before I trip. Usually includes getting a glass or something of water, a light snack, and being inside my house. Phone off or on silent (sometimes when tripping the buzzing scares me lol) lights off but ambient lighting somewhere (across the hall, maybe a small nightlight in my room) then I'll eat that shit, take a shower smoke some weed and by the time I'm done I'm tripping balls.
and what healing said>>>>
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healing said: It sounds like it's the combination of your environment and dosage that are giving you trouble, rather than the dosage itself....When you take a higher dose like that, it's best to make sure that you won't have to worry about the difference between a credit card and a key card....
When I'm laying about on a relatively high dose of mushrooms (or any psychedelic) and doing my own thing, my mind and thoughts are generally crystal clear....confusion and difficulty doesn't come about until I try to get up and "do" something that requires thinking, planning, reasoning, problem solving, talking, working memory, control of attention, etc...When tripping, one should plan to not do tasks that requires such functions of our cognition (like trying to figure out what card to use to open doors) .
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: openmind]
#23394919 - 06/29/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This guy is saying he prefers lower doses.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: SoloTrip]
#23394987 - 06/29/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nah I don't think so. I remember standing in front of an open drawer of clothes in the middle of one trip, trying to figure out how they "worked" exactly...for a very long time.
Executive function kind of disappears while tripping - but everything else works really well.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23394990 - 06/29/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Nah I don't think so. I remember standing in front of an open drawer of clothes in the middle of one trip, trying to figure out how they "worked" exactly...for a very long time.

that is fucking awesome
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23395173 - 06/29/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I never did figure it out - I kept talking to myself with various theories about how "clothes" worked but...nada...
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23395214 - 06/29/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23464708 - 07/22/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So yesterday I took 10 gr. fresh truffles ATL7 which is said to be equivalent to 20 gr. fresh cubensis. So I didn´t move to much lied every now and then to calm myself, and also not pressuring myself thinking about getting results from trip. and this way it was completely fine for me. Maybe mild anxiety . So now I think I can stand it. Probably I needed to work it out microdosing first.
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: jivangilad]
#23464748 - 07/22/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can never figure out how to roll a joint or cigarette when I've taken a higher dose! Either that or my fingers seem to melt into the paper so I can't see what the hell im doing. Weed and tobacco everywhere Plan ahead with big doses. It helps to just enjoy the trip
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Re: 20 grams mushrooms is too much for me [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23465636 - 07/22/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Nah I don't think so. I remember standing in front of an open drawer of clothes in the middle of one trip, trying to figure out how they "worked" exactly...for a very long time.
Executive function kind of disappears while tripping - but everything else works really well. 
On 81ishmg of 4-aco-dmt I got naked and couldn't figure out clothes either they felt really alien
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