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hypnotica
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ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt
#23390996 - 06/28/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so I posted back in December asking about possible contamination in my ATL jars... The jars seem fine but I haven't opened any until now. I also have 3 grow bags that I inoculated around the same time with liquid culture I made of the same galindoi spores used in my jars. So I opened one jar last night and there were ZERO stones, just healthy looking myc. I broke it up and buried it in my backyard hoping for fruits in this hot and humid weather.
 Then I prepared a coir substrate following Damion5050's elementary tek. This morning I picked out two of my bags and one jar to use as spawm for what will be another outdoor grow experiment. Again, the jar had no stones, just white mycelium. Both bags had a good amount of stones in them. In total I harvested about 287 grams of fresh sclerotia. The bags appeared to have no mycelium at all, nothing was clumped together- it was all loose. 
 Was there not enough space in the quart jars for sclerotia to form? It was all the same genetics so I'm curious why the jars did not produce any stones. Anyway, I mixed that spawm with the coir substrate, spread it out in a foresty spot under a tree in my yard and then cased it with remaining coir. I then spread seed starter soil over top of that and threw some leaves lightly on top.  I am hoping this gives me some fruits! I am not exactly scientific in my procedure I've kind of just taken what I have read on these forums and I'm winging it. I'm a definite 'noob'- this will be my first real grow attempt. I also have an outdoor azurescen bed I am working on simultaneously. My indoor spawn got contaminated but I threw it in the woodchip bed anyway and I am hoping the azurescen mycelium prevails.
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: hypnotica]
#23391171 - 06/28/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hypnotica said: Was there not enough space in the quart jars for sclerotia to form? It was all the same genetics so I'm curious why the jars did not produce any stones.
Sclerotia is denser than grain so space shouldn't be a problem. It could be something as simple as your bags having more air exchange and the drying of the grain prompted sclerotia production.
Nice harvest by the way
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: weetsie]
#23391327 - 06/28/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sclerotia push the spawn up and in. Even to the point of cracking it.
ATL7 seems to love glass. Likely any barrier.
Tamps on the other hand will form a ton of smaller ones inside the substrate.
Very odd none formed in jars. Mine took off fast. Before 100% colonization in a few.
Great haul. Hope you enjoy them!
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23398300 - 06/30/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks! I still have some jars I haven't opened yet so maybe those will have some stones. Was definitely surprised after letting them sit for 6+ months to find none. What do you think my chances are of actually being able to fruit these outdoors? I've been misting them everyday, hopefully not overdoing it. And its going to be in the 80s and pretty humid over the next week.
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: hypnotica]
#23398373 - 06/30/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've had mixed results so far. The mycelium in the grain seems harder to get back going again. Been testing it in glass bowls with a casing layer so I can see what's going on.
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23398637 - 06/30/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I planted my leftovers two years ago and I'm getting fruites every year now
1st year

2nd year
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: 99.99]
#23398727 - 06/30/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Look at them fat juicy fuckers...
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: 99.99]
#23398784 - 06/30/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome! So that's outdoors but in containers? Is that better than putting them directly in the ground? The glass bowl is a good idea- I'm so tempted to poke around to see what's happening under there. I'm just curious if they can still get the "benefits" of growing outdoors if they're in containers? Also 99.99 I am assuming you live in a warmer climate but how have you kept them going for two years?
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: hypnotica]
#23399420 - 06/30/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hypnotica said: Awesome! So that's outdoors but in containers? Is that better than putting them directly in the ground? The glass bowl is a good idea- I'm so tempted to poke around to see what's happening under there. I'm just curious if they can still get the "benefits" of growing outdoors if they're in containers? Also 99.99 I am assuming you live in a warmer climate but how have you kept them going for two years?
No not a warm climate I'm in Seattle I've done nothing special to them , I think the potting soil had manure ore something like that in it ore some kind of nutrients
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: 99.99]
#23399692 - 07/01/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hypnotica
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: 99.99]
#23400109 - 07/01/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow.. Do you bring them indoors when temps drop? Do you monitor how much water gets to them? I'm very interested.. If I can actually get one or more of these outdoor ATL beds going it would be cool to get even more yields from them. Have you also harvested stones or just the fruits?
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: hypnotica]
#23400129 - 07/01/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you grew all of those from spores, none have the exact same genetics. They have a higher probability of being similiar but can still have very different looks,size,potency and even preferences.
I have some PP5s that aren't doing much either, fully colonized now, been like that for at least a week but they aren't forming stones. The ones that did form stones started changing colour before they even colonized half the grains and started producing stones soon after. I suspect that the more yellow/orange/brown the culture is, the more stones it will grow. I intend to test that soon, already have a culture on agar which I'm gonna use for side by side comparisons.
Unfortunately, the pp5s that grew stones were all infested with mites recently, threw most of them out, some out of sheer paranoia. I'll probably just get rid of the rest as well, I already lost all that were interesting anyway. Seems like mites like to get high too.
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: hypnotica]
#23401144 - 07/01/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hypnotica said: Wow.. Do you bring them indoors when temps drop? Do you monitor how much water gets to them? I'm very interested.. If I can actually get one or more of these outdoor ATL beds going it would be cool to get even more yields from them. Have you also harvested stones or just the fruits?
I do nothing to keep these going , I have put a screen on them to keep slugs away but that's it No I don't harvest stones , I've got plenty of other things going
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Re: ATL #7 Sclerotia Harvest and Outdoor Grow Attempt [Re: 99.99]
#23402798 - 07/02/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I read that harvesting the stones would effect the harvest in the following years. Stones are basically stored energy which the mycelium uses when conditions aren't optimal.
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