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Tcm19277
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$5 for 8L + 40% Alcohol
#23390826 - 06/28/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I used to distill my own rum in a makeshif pressure cooker/lab glass set up. It was good.
This is better though.
I've gotten back into distillling on the fact I now own a professional 12L Distiller.
What you do
1- pour ~6kg Sugar into your fermentation barrel/bucket (cheap) and dissolve it in water filling it all the way up to 22-25L
2- Add some yeast (very cheap, get a pack of 'champagne yeast' from a local shop for £1
3- Sit and wait a week
4- Pour into your distiller, set it up, turn on the heat and sit back and have a beer or something
5- wait while the alcohol comes over at ~80% (at first) gradually declining but doesn't get lower than 40-50% really
6- Rinse out the distiller, pour the spirit back in and dilute to the 12L max capacity with water
7- Slowly distill it watching the temp, throwing away the first bit and stopping before the 'tails' (nasty smelling/tasting stuff made during fermentation)
8- Add some activated carbon to the spirits, Leave for a week or longer stirring/shaking frequently)
9- Filter off and if you want ditill again diluting with water
10- Enjoy your 9L 40% Neutral spirit (which can be flavoured as desired)
All for a few packs of sugar, a cheap pack of yeast, water, and the setup.
I paid £75 for my distiller and it's the best thing I've bought in years, already done a few runs, distilling some right now in fact.
If you ignore that,
It's under £2-3 per 2.5L of 40% Spirit.
It's easy as fuck.
Any of you ever got into the ol' moonshining?
Next thing I'll make is some dark spiced rum - yum.
After I try out this other 'turbo-yeast' that makes 17% alcohol in 3 days from 7kg sugar.
I am trying a few different yeasts to find the best for a neutral spirit.
It's not a bad drunk either, it's very clean.
YOu can DIY a pressure cooker to distill easily, too.
Anyone who drinks a lot should do this - it'll save you a lot of money and give you a chance to experoment with different recipes, making different spirits.
Here's my setup
 
And some distillate, ~750ml 75%
 
I've got lots now.
Never have to pay £10 for a bottle of vodka again,
If I want to get drunk,
I'll do this and my alcohol buzz will be almost free!
Anyone else into this sorta ting / made your own alcohol before?
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Re: $5 for 8L + 40% Alcohol [Re: Tcm19277]
#23390981 - 06/28/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No I haven't but that's looks hella cool
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Patlal
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Holy fucking shit OP.
Where did you buy your equipment. I'm so doing this. In Canada we pay fucking 40$ for a 40oz of vodka. It's retardedly ridiculous.
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A friend and me built a reflux distiller thing last year and we're waiting this fall to start using the beast because of space issues
Taxes are pretty high here for 99% alcohol so that 1 liter costs about 15$. Since my friend is into liquors like chocolate ones and such this is a huge cut on costs, almost 50%
Our setup consists of a 30 liter beer barrel with an electric heating element and thermostat, that I use for brewing too
Do you get solid results from your yeasts? I read once that it was best to add some additional nutrients for them to be able to fully convert the sugar
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SloppyJoseph
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How do you do it with a pressure cooker? I have a 22 qt. Definitely interested in how I would go about distilling in it..
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tito123

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To anyone considering this, I wouldn't recommend making a pressure cooker still. It may have just been the way I made mine, but it was a huge pain in the ass. The seal between the pressure release valve and the copper wire was loose, meaning my alcohol evaporated out into the kitchen so I lost some finished product + the ice I used to cool the vapor melted and made a mess.
Also, there's distiller's yeast that's marketed as going up to 18%(I think) but you can add more sugar to it while it's fermenting and probably jack it up to 22% or so. If you toss the yeast while there's too much sugar, the yeast can't survive, so adding more while some of the other sugar is consumed will jack up the yield
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PassiveMenis
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Re: $5 for 8L + 40% Alcohol [Re: tito123]
#23391339 - 06/28/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The amount of money you'll save versus the attention you'll get from the ATF make this a stupid idea.
The ATF doesn't fuck around.
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SloppyJoseph
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Quote:
PassiveMenis said: The amount of money you'll save versus the attention you'll get from the ATF make this a stupid idea.
The ATF doesn't fuck around.
And how would the ATF know you are doing this, exactly?
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PassiveMenis
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You gonna get drunk by yourself every time you drink, or you gonna share that booze?
Someone drinks with you, people talk, word gets around. etc. etc.
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SloppyJoseph
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Well if you were smart you wouldn't go blabbing your mouth to every dingbat that you share you booze with about where it came from. You think I tell all my homies where the shrooms in my sig come from?
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PassiveMenis
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So you're just gonna give people moonshine thats gross as fuck and not tell them where it came from?
Boy I don't know if you've ever had white lightning, but it's pretty fuckin' obvious when someones brewed something on their stove vs bought at a liquor store.
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Prisoner#1
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Quote:
PassiveMenis said: The amount of money you'll save versus the attention you'll get from the ATF make this a stupid idea.
The ATF doesn't fuck around.
you can get a license to distill alcohol for 'fuel', what draws the attention of the feds is the sale of untaxed liquor, if you're making it for yourself or selling only to a few friends you know well then there shouldnt be much issue
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PatrickKn



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Seems like you can distill for personal use in the UK with a free to obtain license. So long as it's not for retail. Since OP is from there, he wouldn't have to worry about ATF.
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Lophosaurus
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Distilling in a pressure cooker is not worth it. You can make a nice boka style still for relatively cheap. Its basically a keg with a 2" copper pipe attached and could distill to around 95%. With this style you can use a water heater element to make it safer than having an open flame too.
I don't think you want to keep the alcohol that is coming out at 40%. Maybe if its rum, but that even seems low for rum. Definitely keep it and redistill it with your next batch though. The stuff that comes out near the end has more of a chance to give you negative effects I think. Plus it doesn't taste as good.
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Prisoner#1
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Quote:
Lophosaurus said: Distilling in a pressure cooker is not worth it. You can make a nice boka style still for relatively cheap. Its basically a keg with a 2" copper pipe attached and could distill to around 95%. With this style you can use a water heater element to make it safer than having an open flame too.
I don't think you want to keep the alcohol that is coming out at 40%. Maybe if its rum, but that even seems low for rum. Definitely keep it and redistill it with your next batch though. The stuff that comes out near the end has more of a chance to give you negative effects I think. Plus it doesn't taste as good.
there is no first run 180 proof alcohol producing stills, it would require at least a second distillation process to get to 180 proof. the most efficient I've ever seen was a modified coffey type that made 160 proof, even the reflux stills like the boka is generally around 120 proof.
40% alcohol isnt any more toxic than 90% alcohol, it's the heads and tails that contain methanol and that's what needs to be avoided
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Re: $5 for 8L + 40% Alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23392204 - 06/28/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is more to watch out for than methanol and the methanol comes out first because it evaporates before the ethanol. The hearts is what you want to keep and redistill the rest(not including the methanol) for best results.
A boka column stuffed with scrubbers and made with the right sized pipes and cooling coil can do way better than 120. I'll look it up right now but i'm 90% sure you can get around 95%.
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Lophosaurus
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Yeah, around 96% with a boka or other reflux. Obviously, unless you know what you're doing, you wouldn't want to distill that high for safety reasons. Especially not with an open flames or indoors.
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Prisoner#1
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boka columns are no more than reflux condensers, there is no distillation method that produces alcohol that pure in the first run
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Lophosaurus
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Re: $5 for 8L + 40% Alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23392296 - 06/28/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, there is. A full size keg with a ~4' by 2" column that is stuffed with the right amount of copper scrubber can definitely get around there. I'm sure you know this, but the evaporated alcohol goes through the scrubbers and condenses and evaporates until you let it out. You just have to let it do that for about an hour then open up the still and let the ethanol come out at 1 or 2 drips a second.
Try it out. You can get a keg for $30 and the column cost around $100 to $200. Depending on quality you could build the whole thing for less than $500. I hardly drink anymore so it wasn't worth it for me to keep mine so I got rid of it. Building it was really fun and I like the hobby. I might get back into it one day
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Quote:
PassiveMenis said: You gonna get drunk by yourself every time you drink, or you gonna share that booze?
Someone drinks with you, people talk, word gets around. etc. etc.
Lol @ the thought of TCM worrying about getting caught for making his own booze, of all things
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