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OfflineBenny Mackay
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Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges
    #23390764 - 06/28/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey amazing people --

We're first time growers and would love any advice you pros can offer on our progress so far! Thanks so much. Our basic set up:

- PF-Tec method with rice flour and vermiculite substrate in 4oz mason Jars
- Followed all recipes & protocols to a T in terms of substrate, inoculation and sterilization
- Keeping them at around 77-80 with the help of a window AC and heating pad.

QUESTIONS:

1) Speed/Consistency -- It's been 24 days since we inoculated and are seeing extremely varied progress. Our furthest along looks maybe 3/4 complete. Our least active has 1 quarter-sized mycelium spot. (See pics)






- Should we wait for full colonization in all jars before moving to fruiting phase? Or should we pull them out one at a time to fruit as each finishes?
- What's the sign that the jar is fully colonized and ready to move to fruiting? Do we wait for pins?
- Any ways to kickstart/speed up the slow movers?

2) Moisture -- we're getting some water droplets on the inside of half of the jars (see pic). Is this  a concern? Anything we should be doing about this?





3) Mold -- at least 3 of our jars have some blackish discoloration in the rice flour & vermiculite substrate (see pic). Are these contaminated do you think? We've pulled them out of the incubator. Should we dispose of them or worth seeing what happens?





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Re: Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges [Re: Benny Mackay]
    #23390836 - 06/28/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

remove the heat pad and follow the entire TEK to a T, not just the sub mix ratios


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Re: Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges [Re: Benny Mackay]
    #23390841 - 06/28/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The jar in that first picture is ready for birthing.

Water droplets are normal...they're caused by a difference in the inside/outside air temperature.

The other jars are cobweb (grayish fuzz) and black mold.


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Re: Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges [Re: Benny Mackay]
    #23390846 - 06/28/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You can wait till they are all done or one at a time it is up to you. 

You want to wait a full week after the outside is fully colonized to move to a fruiting chamber. you do not need to see pins to fruit.

There might be ways to speed up jars but they are debatable and I would not recommend any.  I would just let them do there thing.  Different spores colonize at different speeds and some jars may have more than others.

I would not worry about moisture on the inside of your jars. I get moisture all the time and the jars are fine.

The last two pics of jars do not look good.  I think they might be contaminated.


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Re: Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges [Re: spacechildo]
    #23390900 - 06/28/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
remove the heat pad



Off the heat pad as said, you say they are at 77-80, not sure how you are measuring that but they could be way higher sitting on that pad, which will only encourage contamination.

Most say never to use heat pads, I do actually use one in winter but use it like a room heater, I have it away from jars so it is heating an area. If your room temp is below 65F you can use a heat pad, though most recommend heating the entire room. If you do need it warm you use the heat pad on top of the jars, not below. Its a more gentle even heat and will not dry them out as much.


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Re: Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges [Re: blackout]
    #23392246 - 06/28/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks super helpful -- I stuck the heating pad on the underside of the rubber tub (outside). I positioned the jars so they sat off to the side (no direct contact). But I totally see how that could still heat them from below more than what I'm measuring elsewhere in the tub.

I'll remove -- it's hot here so it was really only going on at night and definitely not getting below the 65F that you mentioned.

Much appreciated!


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Re: Newbie colonization -- 3 challenges [Re: HybridprX]
    #23392253 - 06/28/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Great to know that the moisture is alright, thanks!

I'll get rid of the contaminated jars asap then -- RIP :frown:

Really appreciate the fast response.

So helpful.


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