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Popcorn advice needed
    #23390419 - 06/28/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So last week I started some 1 Li tre corn jars, it looks like they are coming along quite well. All though I did not PC the jars I sterilized the jars with alcohol and steam boiled for 3 hours.




The jar on the left was shaken at 30% and overtook the other that was not shaken.

I plan to leave for an extra week after 100% colonization.
After that im not totally sure how to bulk.

I have my coir/verm mixed and will bucket pasteurize.



i guess i will use a tray and after incubation will fruit in my terrarium.



Should the ratio of spawn to mix be 1:2 and then mixed through evenly?

any advice is much appreciated.

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Re: Popcorn advice [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23390456 - 06/28/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

looks ok so far buddy, good job.

big thing though. that fruiting chamber will NOT work the way you want it to. look up how to make a proper SGFC(shotgun fruiting chamber), and turn it into one immediately. you can thank me later when your mushrooms thank you (;


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23390572 - 06/28/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do you think the jars look bacterial?
due to the excess moisture.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23390854 - 06/28/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Op...I've used every grain there is? But popcorn for whatever reason never worked for me....

Those look very good considering you didn't even pressure cook them and no, not bacterial, healthy.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23390874 - 06/28/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yeah the jar to the right is majorly bacterial.

dont wait, use the other jar now, 1:2 is a good ratio, mix evenly, and build a proper SGFC


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: spacechildo]
    #23390944 - 06/28/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I thought the jar on the right looked different because it wasn't shaken?

After mixing with coir/verm in a tray it should be 3-4 inches deep?
Then incubate untill the surface is white?


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: spacechildo]
    #23390953 - 06/28/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
yeah the jar to the right is majorly bacterial.

dont wait, use the other jar now, 1:2 is a good ratio, mix evenly, and build a proper SGFC




The jar to the right was not shaken....the mycelium is colonizing slower because of high levels of co2.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: HybridprX]
    #23390965 - 06/28/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is it worth shaking now or should i wait for it to finish its self?


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23390967 - 06/28/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I thought the jar on the right looked different because it wasn't shaken?

After mixing with coir/verm in a tray it should be 3-4 inches deep?
Then incubate untill the surface is white?




You are correct

Popcorn is a 1:2 ratio.... per 1 l of popcorn spawn you can safely spawn to 2 l worth of bulk material...sometimes people like to go higher if it's a isolated culture....with Ms use the 1:2 ratio... I use 1:1 with wbs and it still takes awhile to colonize.

I'd store the other one in the fridge and give that one a shake...it will only be 6-7 days before it's fully recovered and colonized.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: HybridprX]
    #23390980 - 06/28/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

would you do 2 trays or just one?
So if one is contaminated i still have another.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23390984 - 06/28/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If it makes you sleep easier at night, yes.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: HybridprX]
    #23390988 - 06/28/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
yeah the jar to the right is majorly bacterial.





The jar to the right was not shaken....the mycelium is colonizing slower because of high levels of co2.




that makes no sense, your grains dont look bacterial until you shake them, thats just ludacris.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: spacechildo]
    #23390992 - 06/28/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So I should shake it?


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23391001 - 06/28/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

sure, and see how it looks while recovering and how each grain wont break up properly, you'll get little nuggets of kernels and thick creamy myc (bacteria)


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: spacechildo]
    #23391035 - 06/28/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ok so i shook it up.



I also smelled through the filter and it smells of fresh mushroom.
No sweet/sour/mouldy smell


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23391037 - 06/28/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

well as long as it recovers properly, you are fine. if it doesnt, its contam'd.

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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23391059 - 06/28/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

it is bacterial but not as bad as it first looked. doesnt mean fucked only means slightly retarded.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23391074 - 06/28/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

After spawning to coir/verm should there be FAE while incubating or sealed inside a bin bag?


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: spacechildo]
    #23391144 - 06/28/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

GE in form of imperfect seal in the lid or tight stuffed poly.


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: spacechildo] * 1
    #23406695 - 07/03/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So five days later the shaken jar mow looks like this.

looks good or no?



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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23406777 - 07/03/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Looks good enough to spawn... But not quite good enough for a g2g


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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23406789 - 07/03/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Popcorn advice needed [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23411516 - 07/04/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So today I spawned my jars. Just wanted some feedback to see if it looks ok.

pasteurized coir/verm at 70C for 60 Min's.



Spawned into 2 trays 1L of popcorn 2L of bulk per tray.



I mixed evenly 2.5 inch deep.



Covered in foil and put inside a tote.



Constructed my SGFC also



I should wait a week and peek inside right?
If the top is colonized should i case with 0.5 inch of verm and begin fruiting?


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