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Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? 1
#23389420 - 06/27/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Graemlins matching "libtard" = 0
With the increasing numbers I think it's only relevant. Not to be insulting but every one has different levels of intellect for intelligent discussion and I feel they would only appreciate such a kind gesture.
Just something for you guy's that run the shroomery to think about... it would be kind and generous of y'all.

Edit: Also in this thread feel free to discuss culture and religion the United states. Feel free to talk about your nation, culture and religion if you wish. Personal preferences in life are also fine to talk about here (having/wanting a libtard smiley could fall under this category I suppose- improvements to shroomery.). Have a great day.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] 3
#23389438 - 06/27/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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But what would an appropriate "libtard" image look like? We have the college liberal meme. Isnt that enough? Typical capitalist republicans. Always wanting more, no matter the cost.
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Now, now don't get to excited. There has to be a way to compress this idea. What does a "libtard" truly look like. What imagine can really portray this controversial idea that is pressed.
Something of that resolution certainly would not do. It's just a meme not a suitable image. A symbol if you will, is what we need.
For example, take a look at this image :

What do you take from that? Can you feel it? Can you smell it? Don't you get what it's saying to the other poster.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23389500 - 06/27/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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How about a can of beard wax?
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So something like this?

I don't usually make these types of posts but I was compelled tonight. What's the most fucked up image that will match a libtard perfectly? We need motivation. References. Beardwax was pretty funny but I'm not sure about it!
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Supachopped719]
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KEEP YOUR HATE SPEECH OFF OUR FORUM. I bet that girl has been forced to radically alter her appearance so everyone she sees in the street doesn't recognise her.
OP- you really find an increasing number of liberals in the pub recently? I don't post in here very much, but the general trend since I've been registered is from a population of total hippie stereotypes to a much more conservative consensus in here.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: EllisDSox] 4
#23389650 - 06/28/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't post in here very much
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I should have appended "anymore" to that sentence, I suppose. I'm not cool in the slightest, regardless of how often I post in the pub.
And you were never the walrus.
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We also need a few conservacrazy grems just to keep thing nice and balanced.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] 3
#23389884 - 06/28/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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We won't be getting any Libtard or Republicunt graemlins because the admin decision was made that further graemlins should not add to existing hatreds and feuds on the forum.
Democrats, republicans, third party and all others all have to make it together. A graemlin is a kind of formal endorsement, we won't endorse serious flames like Libtard.
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#23389923 - 06/28/16 03:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23389931 - 06/28/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dr.Wongburger said: Graemlins matching "libtard" = 0
With the increasing numbers I think it's only relevant. Not to be insulting but every one has different levels of intellect for intelligent discussion and I feel they would only appreciate such a kind gesture.
Just something for you guy's that run the shroomery to think about... it would be kind and generous of y'all.

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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante] 1
#23390064 - 06/28/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: We won't be getting any Libtard or Republicunt graemlins because the admin decision was made that further graemlins should not add to existing hatreds and feuds on the forum.
Democrats, republicans, third party and all others all have to make it together. A graemlin is a kind of formal endorsement, we won't endorse serious flames like Libtard.
Yet you endorse Patlal? Shocking.
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#23390117 - 06/28/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: A graemlin is a kind of formal endorsement, we won't endorse serious flames like Libtard.
There is a graemlin with the face of a former Shroomerite on a piece of feces. That Shroomerite committed suicide a few years ago. Nobody gives a rat's ass about any of that, but god forbid we offend anyone with a political graemlin.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek] 4
#23390118 - 06/28/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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At least the staff formally endorse monkeys ejaculating in a woman's face and Jesus riding a dinosaur.

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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: TioWWW999]
#23390119 - 06/28/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Niffla] 2
#23390148 - 06/28/16 06:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally I think we have too many grems already. If you are unable to find an image sufficiently offensive within the massive library available, perhaps internet trolling is something best left to people more creative. I get that republicans are quite linear and have a hard time making abstract connections but really you could almost make a selection at random at this point.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23390151 - 06/28/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sure the girl getting slapped in the face by the dick is a Bernie Sanders supporter.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek]
#23390155 - 06/28/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Geoff Peterson said: I'm sure the girl getting slapped in the face by the dick is a Bernie Sanders supporter.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek] 1
#23390187 - 06/28/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: A graemlin is a kind of formal endorsement, we won't endorse serious flames like Libtard.
There is a graemlin with the face of a former Shroomerite on a piece of feces. That Shroomerite committed suicide a few years ago. Nobody gives a rat's ass about any of that, but god forbid we offend anyone with a political graemlin.
If you're not just stirring shit but sincere about it, link it and I'll remove it.
The Shroomery has gotten more serious about graems and what they represent, for this reason Ythan removed a gream of Obama as a monkey and various racist graems.
What we got sorta gets grandfathered in, but if you're serious about that graem, link it and boom, its gone.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: EllisDSox]
#23390190 - 06/28/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: At least the staff formally endorse monkeys ejaculating in a woman's face and Jesus riding a dinosaur.
 
That we do.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante] 2
#23390206 - 06/28/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you're the one who expressed concern about offensive graems, I was just merely pointing out how misplaced your concern seemed to be in my opinion. You're welcome to sift through the endless page of graems in order to find the one of a piece of shit with a dude's face on it if you'd like to, in fact you might find plenty of other mindlessly offensive shit to get rid of while you're at it.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek] 1
#23390213 - 06/28/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I understand. Still, if we want positive change that change has to begin somewhere, and whether we are members, mods or admins, we all decide our personal point of change.
To my taste, its bad enough we have some mods who refer to members as libtards or other offensive words, we don't need further endorsement of that.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: TioWWW999]
#23390240 - 06/28/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek]
#23390241 - 06/28/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think I've seen that a few times, this what you're talking about?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante]
#23390263 - 06/28/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: At least the staff formally endorse monkeys ejaculating in a woman's face and Jesus riding a dinosaur.
 
That we do.

So it's only Graems that offend liberals that aren't allowed?
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Not at all. The monkeys graem could be construed as sexist or antifeminist, thus "liberally offensive" And theres nothing truly conservative about Christianity. The good man was the ultimate nonconformist bringer of change. They nailed him to the cross for it.
Theres nothing political about those graems and if there actually was a Jesus he would love dinosaurs like any of God's creatures, no matter what a holy book would say.
Relaxed christians take no offense at just like confident women take no offense at
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante]
#23390303 - 06/28/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I suppose relaxed retards take no offense at being called libtards?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek] 1
#23390312 - 06/28/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why is it that only Christians have to be relaxed about it?
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We voted on not changing the existing graemlin board but instead be more careful with what we add.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante]
#23390325 - 06/28/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can dig it.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante]
#23390817 - 06/28/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi and thank you for your responses Asante. I was heavily buzzed last night when I made this thread. Kind of funny coming back to it, I guess people speak what's on their mind when they are on alcohol hehe. Though that is really no excuse.
Well, I'm happy to see every one expressing their different concerns for the love/hate relationship of political instability and liberals. It's great to hear how people feel about bettering the community. Love and hate just makes a huge soup that's always wanting to be mixed.
It's a shame tho that not as many will be freely added (tho understandable),
I was just thinking it would be nice to see more coffee ones, although probably not popular. I'm a die hard coffee fan.
Any way's how selfish is that hehe. We are lucky to have a say in any thing here since it could be treated just like a dictatorship like many websites out there.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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urgh, urgh, feels like too much hate speech... If only there was a camp we could send those who offend us! 
What's to stop people making their own meme images and uploading/linking via imgur or other hosting site?
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Never seen that guy before. He was funny, ill probably watch more in the future.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek]
#23395902 - 06/29/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Geoff Peterson said: I suppose relaxed retards take no offense at being called libtards? 
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante] 1
#23396251 - 06/30/16 03:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just make a graem of me doing a wheelie on a dolphin, okay? It's what everyone wants.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: EllisDSox]
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: John Nada]
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Me doing a wheelie on a dolphin would be way cooler, but admittedly the best graem on the site is named after you for some reason. I bet Andy did it, though, so you're still a dickhead.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: EllisDSox]
#23396293 - 06/30/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's named after me because that is a depiction of the time I gave Jesus a ride to heaven.
Andy is responsible for entering this other one, which is why it says "small" instead of just "paradissun" like it was supposed to:  He made it huge at first and then named it the proper name, and then made the real version the right size and named it "small". I have no idea why. Then he deleted the fucked up big one and wouldn't change the name out of stubbornness, haha.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: John Nada]
#23396306 - 06/30/16 04:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the true libtard, self satire renders caricature obsolete.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: canid]
#23396307 - 06/30/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm an independent.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: John Nada]
#23396318 - 06/30/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And I'm a standard earth hu-mon. But I was responding to the topic question, rather than to your post if I accidentally caused any confusion. It still irks me that the default quick reply doesn't make that default.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: canid]
#23396466 - 06/30/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You didn't cause any confusion, but apology accepted.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: EllisDSox]
#23396873 - 06/30/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: Just make a graem of me doing a wheelie on a dolphin, okay? It's what everyone wants.
As long as you have your cock firmly inserted into its blowhole, I concur. Wait, or is it just whales that have them?
Either way, the one with the blowhole.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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If you're gonna be talking about offensive emotes, Asante, you might want to replace Shulgin's since that's a terrible picture.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: canid]
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My bad man my bad. I know it was not a nice topic. I was drinking gnome mean mane. I don't drink and drive tho.
I have nothing personally against libtards as people but as libtards. Matter of fact I have a good friend who is a libtard. He has been around me for the past 2 and half years. He's okay with guns laying around the house and even has shot one before. Although he is against them. He loves welfare. He loves paid for collage out of our taxes. We have different views but we are still friends!
Yes I call him a libtard to his face. And yes he call's me a nut case for beveling it's okay to carry a gun. We do have a middle ground tho, we both believe in legalizing drugs for the greater good.
Anyway's ramble ramble... why should my personal money have to pay for some fucker to go to college? College is a fucking choice. Fuck government sponsored College/university education and fuck welfare. Assisted living to where people pay rent accordingly towards how much money they make.. fuck that. I mean don't get me wrong.. it would still be wrong and suck but it would not bother me as much if the money did not come out of my fucking pay check. My fucking money, my time their stealing. So yes FUCK welfare.
You pay me $20 bucks to cut your front yard. Fair deal. Where does uncle sam get involved.
It's thievery, straight thievery when they take money out of your paycheck.
Pay uncle sam for retirement? HAHA. That's so ridiculous I don't need big brother to save my money for me, I set money aside for my own retirement.
Honestly libtards would not bother me if they did not take my money or affect my life or have a say in anything. They could hold all of their socialist views and be marry. This country is not SOCIALISTIC, stop trying to bring socialism here libtards. I might still say what their doing is wrong and not agree with it but it would not bother me if they did not change society.
These people bother the shit out of me tho because they take my money. Fuck you people who think it's okay to steal my cash, so yes I'm okay with making this thread actually. Fuck you money thieving bastard libtards.
BTW these views only go for the USA. I don't care if other nations are full liberal. I don't mind if that's how their government is set up, they are probably done/ set up that way rightly so and justified. BUT over here in the USA it's unacceptable and FUCK you people that think otherwise. It's NOT JUST here and it's not right. Period.
Am I selfish? Yes. Do I have a right to be selfish? Yes. Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!
That's called bullshit. I call bullshit.
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Ever drive on a road? Use emergency medical services? Like the idea of a fire department? Go to a primary school? If you employ people who need to be able to do basic math or take a bus to get to work then you are also benefiting from social programs. You are a drain on my money damnit!
Now for those self made people who taught themselves to read and write, built their own roads that they themselves use to get places, or pay for the education that the people they plan to hire in 20 years recieved then all I have to say is bravo. Truly a self made, bootstrapping individual you are.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: Ever drive on a road? Use emergency medical services? Like the idea of a fire department? Go to a primary school? If you employ people who need to be able to do basic math or take a bus to get to work then you are also benefiting from social programs. You are a drain on my money damnit!
Now for those self made people who taught themselves to read and write, built their own roads that they themselves use to get places, or pay for the education that the people they plan to hire in 20 years recieved then all I have to say is bravo. Truly a self made, bootstrapping individual you are.

Honestly have you ever researched when and why the IRS was created? Do you have any idea? Do you understand how it was done before they started stealing our cash? Study a little. The history of it say's it was originally for a total different purpose(other than self defense). You give them a a inch they will take a mile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service
"In July 1862, during the American Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and Congress passed the Revenue Act of 1862, creating the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue and enacting a temporary income tax to pay war expenses.
The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862"
BESIDES any of that just because things might FAIL or roads may not get paved or what else ever it DOES NOT MATTER.
IT DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY TO STEAL MONEY just because things might go south. This is a free society, a free nation and I should DAMN well have the rights to the fruit of my own labor.
If they stop the income tax and things don't work out, SUCK IT UP butter cup.
It certainly does not justify theft. If you think so, you are completely brainwashed.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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I had to look that up. Makes sense tho hehe.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] 1
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I'm not saying that corruption does not exist or that governments use the funds collected wisely. I'm just saying that the concept of social programs predate 1848. They are good concepts as no one is an island unto themselves. If you do not participate in society, then you are a leech upon it. Those who look to evade contributing while having benefited are worse leeches than those who need to be supported by it.
Personally I dislike both right and left positions as in practice they are equally corrupt. Right wing may be a bit worse but it's like asking if a stroke is better than a heart attack. Until the western world does something about the perpetual abuses perpetrated by both sides in the favor of elite classes, we will continue on a poor trajectory as a species.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23397399 - 06/30/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I'm not saying that corruption does not exist or that governments use the funds collected wisely. I'm just saying that the concept of social programs predate 1848. They are good concepts as no one is an island unto themselves. If you do not participate in society, then you are a leech upon it. Those who look to evade contributing while having benefited are worse leeches than those who need to be supported by it.
Personally I dislike both right and left positions as in practice they are equally corrupt. Right wing may be a bit worse but it's like asking if a stroke is better than a heart attack. Until the western world does something about the perpetual abuses perpetrated by both sides in the favor of elite classes, we will continue on a poor trajectory as a species.
Thank you for responding calmly. The subject get's me stirred often times. I am neither republican / conservative or democratic / liberal. I am a libertarian.
When it comes to leeching, I'm not sure if you were implying that I want to leech or not. I want to make it clear however that I would rather go with out than to go with and have the income tax. I see it as just "tough luck" if things don't work out, they should cut back on spending what they don't have. I don't see that as leeching. If there can not be paved road's due to lack of fund's let just ride on dirt. If they can't afford dirt roads I guess it will be one bumpy ride driving threw grass fields on public property. That's the reality of things tho, that's how it could be. But if that did happen I would not be shocked of the free market took over and provided toll road's which would make total sense. So you could choose to take the bumpy ride or pay cash for a nice smooth one.
I'm not sure where all the fund's come from that provide road way's and such, as of meaning Idk what products which are bought such as tax's on gas or car parts and such if that goes to the transportation part of of government but if those tax's don't cover enough of the margin then it's tough luck I don't see how it would be right to steal from people just because things head down hill otherwise.
Do not get me wrong. I do not see it possible to just break off the current system. For example, people are so addicted to welfare that if you just yanked it away they would go homeless and not know how to adapt.
At the same time tho I think maybe that's what they need. Maybe that's the right thing to do but can you blame those people for doing what the Government has provide? Is that their fault? Should be not blame liberals or people in government and people who supported it to start with?
It's like.. yea should we be at war over sea's? I'm not sure but if the answer is no, we can not just pull them out, American Soldiers will die unless executed the right way. There's a process here to conversion.
So in conclusion I do not see the income tax as of being justified in any way shape or form. I see nothing wrong with going 'without' and not benefiting from the things the income tax makes possible.
If those things must continue the Tax money must come from else where. Not the personal fruits of our own labor.
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Here is my biggest problem with our social and class structure. It's nothing more than abstract concepts based on more abstraction. We talk about the money needed to build a road but let's be clear, money is not technically needed to build a road. Pieces of paper and bytes of data are not part of the building materials. The people doing the construction do not hold a credit card in their hands, they hold a shovel. If the planet was about to self destruct unless a road was built and built without the abstract concept of money being involved, could it be done? Would it be possible to put down asphalt and paint lines on it without money entering the picture? If the lives of everyone on the planet were at stake, could it be done?
You ARE being robbed. But you are unaware of what is actually being taken.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: Here is my biggest problem with our social and class structure. It's nothing more than abstract concepts based on more abstraction. We talk about the money needed to build a road but let's be clear, money is not technically needed to build a road. Pieces of paper and bytes of data are not part of the building materials. The people doing the construction do not hold a credit card in their hands, they hold a shovel. If the planet was about to self destruct unless a road was built and built without the abstract concept of money being involved, could it be done? Would it be possible to put down asphalt and paint lines on it without money entering the picture? If the lives of everyone on the planet were at stake, could it be done?
You ARE being robbed. But you are unaware of what is actually being taken.
What are you saying is being taken? I don't see why the free market would not take over and build the road's for us and charge money to use them. While still having the option to use shit pathways that are public property.
Of course that transition now would be intense.. public path way's would be bought up by free market and maintained.. government would have to provide some way's to ensure freedom of movement. Would probably take longer to travel on the government pathways and such.
I imagine if a company owned a large amount of the path way's in a city for example you would probably end up buying a year's pass or pay monthly.
Are you saying things should be done for free out of necessity? Is that a similar concept to anarchy? Kind of how the person who run's a cash register gets legal rights to own the cash register. Or people who run machines at factory's own the machine and private property does not exist in the sense of owning excess land and business and such?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23397551 - 06/30/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stop worrying about who owns what. You don't own jack shit. No one does. The only things in this world that you actually own are your word and your balls. We need to stop wasting time worrying about having shit.
When people are tired of being told to eat cake, the result is always the same. Having stuff won't help you at all at that point.
I'm saying that money is a concept of debt. It holds everything back. Science is impeded by money, how many times is something not possible because they don't have the funds? All the time. But I never heard of a scientific discovery made possible because we have a debt system.
"In scientific news today, we proved the existence of the Higgs boson. This was only made possible because of the NASDAQ index gain of 50 points on Monday." Pure nonsense.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23397574 - 06/30/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. --Carlin
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23397586 - 06/30/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty much. . . It's all bait and switch. People have the most insane priorities these days.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23397608 - 06/30/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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AFAIK, ALL you own in this life are your actions. Your thoughts, the people around you, the world, the rules of the universe (whatever they are) - they own you.
We got a single medium to work with here.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23397640 - 06/30/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr.Wongburger said: My bad man my bad. I know it was not a nice topic. I was drinking gnome mean mane. I don't drink and drive tho.
I have nothing personally against libtards as people but as libtards. Matter of fact I have a good friend who is a libtard. He has been around me for the past 2 and half years. He's okay with guns laying around the house and even has shot one before. Although he is against them. He loves welfare. He loves paid for collage out of our taxes. We have different views but we are still friends!
Yes I call him a libtard to his face. And yes he call's me a nut case for beveling it's okay to carry a gun. We do have a middle ground tho, we both believe in legalizing drugs for the greater good.
Anyway's ramble ramble... why should my personal money have to pay for some fucker to go to college? College is a fucking choice. Fuck government sponsored College/university education and fuck welfare. Assisted living to where people pay rent accordingly towards how much money they make.. fuck that. I mean don't get me wrong.. it would still be wrong and suck but it would not bother me as much if the money did not come out of my fucking pay check. My fucking money, my time their stealing. So yes FUCK welfare.
You pay me $20 bucks to cut your front yard. Fair deal. Where does uncle sam get involved.
It's thievery, straight thievery when they take money out of your paycheck.
Pay uncle sam for retirement? HAHA. That's so ridiculous I don't need big brother to save my money for me, I set money aside for my own retirement.
Honestly libtards would not bother me if they did not take my money or affect my life or have a say in anything. They could hold all of their socialist views and be marry. This country is not SOCIALISTIC, stop trying to bring socialism here libtards. I might still say what their doing is wrong and not agree with it but it would not bother me if they did not change society.
These people bother the shit out of me tho because they take my money. Fuck you people who think it's okay to steal my cash, so yes I'm okay with making this thread actually. Fuck you money thieving bastard libtards.
BTW these views only go for the USA. I don't care if other nations are full liberal. I don't mind if that's how their government is set up, they are probably done/ set up that way rightly so and justified. BUT over here in the USA it's unacceptable and FUCK you people that think otherwise. It's NOT JUST here and it's not right. Period.
Am I selfish? Yes. Do I have a right to be selfish? Yes. Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!
That's called bullshit. I call bullshit.
You should check out what the constitution has to say about tax collection and how it's spent.
The Taxing and Spending Clause[1] (which contains provisions known as the General Welfare Clause[2] and the Uniformity Clause[3]), Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, grants the federal government of the United States its power of taxation. While authorizing Congress to levy taxes, this clause permits the levying of taxes for two purposes only: to pay the debts of the United States, and to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. Taken together, these purposes have traditionally been held to imply and to constitute the federal government's taxing and spending power.[4]
So sorry to hear you don't want to pay taxes, tell it to the Founders.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
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Dr.Wongburger said: My bad man my bad. I know it was not a nice topic. I was drinking gnome mean mane. I don't drink and drive tho.
I have nothing personally against libtards as people but as libtards. Matter of fact I have a good friend who is a libtard. He has been around me for the past 2 and half years. He's okay with guns laying around the house and even has shot one before. Although he is against them. He loves welfare. He loves paid for collage out of our taxes. We have different views but we are still friends!
Yes I call him a libtard to his face. And yes he call's me a nut case for beveling it's okay to carry a gun. We do have a middle ground tho, we both believe in legalizing drugs for the greater good.
Anyway's ramble ramble... why should my personal money have to pay for some fucker to go to college? College is a fucking choice. Fuck government sponsored College/university education and fuck welfare. Assisted living to where people pay rent accordingly towards how much money they make.. fuck that. I mean don't get me wrong.. it would still be wrong and suck but it would not bother me as much if the money did not come out of my fucking pay check. My fucking money, my time their stealing. So yes FUCK welfare.
You pay me $20 bucks to cut your front yard. Fair deal. Where does uncle sam get involved.
It's thievery, straight thievery when they take money out of your paycheck.
Pay uncle sam for retirement? HAHA. That's so ridiculous I don't need big brother to save my money for me, I set money aside for my own retirement.
Honestly libtards would not bother me if they did not take my money or affect my life or have a say in anything. They could hold all of their socialist views and be marry. This country is not SOCIALISTIC, stop trying to bring socialism here libtards. I might still say what their doing is wrong and not agree with it but it would not bother me if they did not change society.
These people bother the shit out of me tho because they take my money. Fuck you people who think it's okay to steal my cash, so yes I'm okay with making this thread actually. Fuck you money thieving bastard libtards.
BTW these views only go for the USA. I don't care if other nations are full liberal. I don't mind if that's how their government is set up, they are probably done/ set up that way rightly so and justified. BUT over here in the USA it's unacceptable and FUCK you people that think otherwise. It's NOT JUST here and it's not right. Period.
Am I selfish? Yes. Do I have a right to be selfish? Yes. Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!
That's called bullshit. I call bullshit.
You should check out what the constitution has to say about tax collection and how it's spent.
The Taxing and Spending Clause[1] (which contains provisions known as the General Welfare Clause[2] and the Uniformity Clause[3]), Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, grants the federal government of the United States its power of taxation. While authorizing Congress to levy taxes, this clause permits the levying of taxes for two purposes only: to pay the debts of the United States, and to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. Taken together, these purposes have traditionally been held to imply and to constitute the federal government's taxing and spending power.[4]
So sorry to hear you don't want to pay taxes, tell it to the Founders.
Obviously taxes are just fine. However about you research the Income tax some huh?
The founding fathers DID not add that tax. They believed in having the rights to the fruit of your own labor.
"The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862:"
Emergency sir! Emergency!
"Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money."
They fucked up! They got hooked on the income tax! If Lincoln never was killed I guarante you all this socialistic bullshit would of been put to an end after the war! But you know.. that's just my opion maan.
The founding fathers believed in "trade and property taxation".
You can not pin the income tax with the founding fathers.
Reason for edit/ give source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23397714 - 06/30/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And general welfare of the United States, sorry you don't like it
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
#23397720 - 06/30/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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"In 1906, with the election of President Theodore Roosevelt, and later his successor William Howard Taft, the United States saw a populist movement for tax reform. This movement culminated during then candidate Woodrow Wilson's election of 1912 and in February 1913, the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:
“ The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration. ”"
Do you understand now? Do you understand it's bullshit?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
#23397732 - 06/30/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Citizen X said: And general welfare of the United States, sorry you don't like it
Matter of fact there have been many candidates this year offering solutions to replace the income tax and abolish the IRS.
Can you tell me when that part of the constitution was added? Was it there from the beginning? You implied it was.
By saying "Sorry the founding fathers.."
THUS when they wrote that they were referring NOT to the income tax but to trade and property taxation
Thus sorry Sir but the United States Welfare is JUST FINE with out the income tax and with trade and property taxation.
If you say other wise you must admit you are incorrect on when the section of the constitution was added and how you said "The founding fathers"- added their involvement.
You are losing this argument.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23397733 - 06/30/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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16th Amendment Amendment XVI
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
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I don't know what the fuck you're talking about or what point you're trying to make. It reads pretty easy to me?
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Citizen X said: 16th Amendment Amendment XVI
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
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I don't know what the fuck you're talking about or what point you're trying to make. It reads pretty easy to me?
Wow. you obviously have not read the posts. Have you ignored the other posts and not read up on the history of the income tax yet?
Address the issue, don't play dumb
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Obviously taxes are just fine. However about you research the Income tax some huh?
The founding fathers DID not add that tax. They believed in having the rights to the fruit of your own labor.
"The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862:"
Emergency sir! Emergency!
"Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money."
They fucked up! They got hooked on the income tax! If Lincoln never was killed I guarante you all this socialistic bullshit would of been put to an end after the war! But you know.. that's just my opion maan.
The founding fathers believed in "trade and property taxation".
You can not pin the income tax with the founding fathers.
Reason for edit/ give source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service
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Citizen X said: And general welfare of the United States, sorry you don't like it
Matter of fact there have been many candidates this year offering solutions to replace the income tax and abolish the IRS.
Can you tell me when that part of the constitution was added? Was it there from the beginning? You implied it was.
By saying "Sorry the founding fathers.."
THUS when they wrote that they were referring NOT to the income tax but to trade and property taxation
Thus sorry Sir but the United States Welfare is JUST FINE with out the income tax and with trade and property taxation.
If you say other wise you must admit you are incorrect on when the section of the constitution was added and how you said "The founding fathers"- added their involvement.
You are losing this argument.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
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Also I dont remember every thing that was said earlier. But please for give me for being rude.
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I'm shocked you did not give me a response. Why avoid the post?
No need to be sore. It's internet talkz.
I care, I like to stay towards practicing good etiquette. Just because another person may attack me or come at me with bad etiquette, does not mean I should back. Every reader of the shroomery can see good or bad behavior and they will get to know you accordingly. It's important.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
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Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.
At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.
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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
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Dr.Wongburger said: That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
The progressives wanted to take that human charity out of the system, they wanted the charity to be nameless from government and guaranteed regardless of who was on the receiving end of that benefit.
So what do we see today? The US and EU are now supporting third world people that have invaded their own nations! It's a system that going to destroy itself because it's neither rational or functional over the long term.
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qman said: Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.
At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.
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Dr.Wongburger said: That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
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Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!
I kind of just assumed that you were.. but are you American?
Lot's of people care because the money comes out of our paychecks. It's our money! That they take by theft.
It's very annoying because also in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.
Then came tax reform...
Their stealing time. Let's say you work 3 day's a certain week at $11.50 a hour. That's not great money but most young people appreciate that type of pay. You work a very little 5-6 hours a day at the most. The government takes a whole day away from you after tax's. Now the young guy has lost a bunch of money and can't save good for other things because he has to pay for other people to go to collage. Instead he could of been saving money for him self to go to college. Young people mine as well get a second job or find full time some where with the same pay rate. Even tho he or she should not have to. He or she should not have to work more to make up for uncle sam's theft. The more you make the more they take to.. it's bull.
Let's say you get paid $20 bucks a hour. Think about the time they are stealing from you.
It's time they are stealing. Your money you make is time. They take time away from you. You don't get to choose what to do with your time. I imagine this encourages people to find job's where they get paid under the table.
Why do we care about welfare money? Because it OUR money.
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qman said: Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.
At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.
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Dr.Wongburger said: That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!
I'm well aware that churches still have food banks, but other than food, what other social service do churches provide for the poor?
The government has over 50 million people on food stamps, it also provides public housing, health care and welfare.
Is there a point you're trying to make? Because government handing out social services IS the pulse of poor American's.
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Dr.Wongburger said: That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
The progressives wanted to take that human charity out of the system, they wanted the charity to be nameless from government and guaranteed regardless of who was on the receiving end of that benefit.
So what do we see today? The US and EU are now supporting third world people that have invaded their own nations! It's a system that going to destroy itself because it's neither rational or functional over the long term.
It will definitely destroy it's self. I agree.
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qman said: Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.
At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.
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Dr.Wongburger said: That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!
I literally have churches nearby that collectively give dinner away every night of the week. They all have little pamphlets telling you where to go each night, too.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: TheMovement]
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qman said: Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.
At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.
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Dr.Wongburger said: That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.
Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!
I literally have churches nearby that collectively give dinner away every night of the week. They all have little pamphlets telling you where to go each night, too.
Nothing wrong with that but tell it to the 46 million Americans on food stamps.
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You should tell them to go there. Or to learn to fucking cook.
I can cook nutritional food for the day on about 5 bucks.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: TheMovement]
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I mean.. I'm not in support of them. Their the ones that need to learn to fucking cook not me, I don't use food stamps.
I'm not on welfare I work for a living.
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Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!
I kind of just assumed that you were.. but are you American?
Lot's of people care because the money comes out of our paychecks. It's our money! That they take by theft.
It's very annoying because also in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.
Then came tax reform...
Their stealing time. Let's say you work 3 day's a certain week at $11.50 a hour. That's not great money but most young people appreciate that type of pay. You work a very little 5-6 hours a day at the most. The government takes a whole day away from you after tax's. Now the young guy has lost a bunch of money and can't save good for other things because he has to pay for other people to go to collage. Instead he could of been saving money for him self to go to college. Young people mine as well get a second job or find full time some where with the same pay rate. Even tho he or she should not have to. He or she should not have to work more to make up for uncle sam's theft. The more you make the more they take to.. it's bull.
Let's say you get paid $20 bucks a hour. Think about the time they are stealing from you.
It's time they are stealing. Your money you make is time. They take time away from you. You don't get to choose what to do with your time. I imagine this encourages people to find job's where they get paid under the table.
Why do we care about welfare money? Because it OUR money.
Yes I'm American and if you don't like paying income tax move to a country where you don't have to pay. Instead of bitching on the Shroomery about it why don't you do something about it? Do us all a favor and whine somewhere else, please
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Dr.Wongburger said: I mean.. I'm not in support of them. Their the ones that need to learn to fucking cook not me, I don't use food stamps.
I'm not on welfare I work for a living.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
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You are the one who replied to me in my thread. You also were the one who objected my SINGLE post about it. You are the one who did not like what I had to say about it.
I responded to YOUR messages. I simply explained my self to you and why I have the views I do.
it's called a argument.
So why don't you go wine some where else to other people who you do not agree with.. pshhh your the one who did not like my views and had to pitch in.
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Dr.Wongburger said: I mean.. I'm not in support of them. Their the ones that need to learn to fucking cook not me, I don't use food stamps.
I'm not on welfare I work for a living.
What do want a gold star? A patch that says 'I'm special' it's called being a grown up, welcome to the real world
I'm glad you just admitted that welfare is childish. Gold star to you to! Were getting some where with you!
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bahahahaha. You got me good on that one man. I have nothing to say back to that one!
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Okay so lemme get this straight. The OP is mad because he works hard and his work is undervalued. So when asked to take from his earnings to pay taxes, he is angry. Now instead of being angry at the people who have gamed the system to pay him a low wage and devalue his work, or be angry at the massively bloated government which thinks nothing of blowing a trillion bucks on a jet that can't fly, he is mad at poor people. Because they need food stamps. Otherwise they starve.
Yep its definitely the liberals who are retarded.
We need taxes. As long as the system is based on fiat debt backed currency we will need taxation. Because the alternative is not good. Because while you are sleeping on a mattress of cash that you saved from the hands of the greedy government, I'm gonna sneak into your house and slit your throat. Then I'm gonna take that shit and there won't be no one to stop me.
Tax is the price we pay to have a semblance of order. Maintaining order is a thin line. Most people consider themselves civilized decent creatures. But, I believe that in three days I could get a person to tear into your chest and drink the blood right from your heart. It's not really difficult to do. Order is a thin line.
The solution is basically for you to find a place where there is no tax. I doubt you ever will. I guarantee you however, that 50 million people on food stamps is not where most of your tax money goes. So perhaps you should look a little closer at that. I am proud to drive on roads that my taxes helped pay for. Happy that even tho I dont have children, I can contribute something to them being somewhat educated and not grow up to be complete morons. I don't like the fact that large corporations get billions of dollars in tax bailout money, then turn around and pay themselves large bonuses. I don't like that Walmart can pay starvation wages to its people, who in turn need to be feed and sheltered by the government. Meanwhile Walmart is raking in billions because YOU are paying to keep its employees from breaking into your house out of sheer desperation.
But the thing I would like most would be if there was no fiat currency holding us all back. No abstract notion of class dividing us. For people to do things because they wanted to do them well. For people to work because they didn't want to sit idle. For those unable to work or contribute due to whatever reasons, to be able to live in relative dignity. For people with an illness to not face the choice of going bankrupt or dying.
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Pastywhyte said: Okay so lemme get this straight. The OP is mad because he works hard and his work is undervalued. So when asked to take from his earnings to pay taxes, he is angry. Now instead of being angry at the people who have gamed the system to pay him a low wage and devalue his work, or be angry at the massively bloated government which thinks nothing of blowing a trillion bucks on a jet that can't fly, he is mad at poor people. Because they need food stamps. Otherwise they starve.
Yep its definitely the liberals who are retarded.
We need taxes. As long as the system is based on fiat debt backed currency we will need taxation. Because the alternative is not good. Because while you are sleeping on a mattress of cash that you saved from the hands of the greedy government, I'm gonna sneak into your house and slit your throat. Then I'm gonna take that shit and there won't be no one to stop me.
Tax is the price we pay to have a semblance of order. Maintaining order is a thin line. Most people consider themselves civilized decent creatures. But, I believe that in three days I could get a person to tear into your chest and drink the blood right from your heart. It's not really difficult to do. Order is a thin line.
The solution is basically for you to find a place where there is no tax. I doubt you ever will. I guarantee you however, that 50 million people on food stamps is not where most of your tax money goes. So perhaps you should look a little closer at that. I am proud to drive on roads that my taxes helped pay for. Happy that even tho I dont have children, I can contribute something to them being somewhat educated and not grow up to be complete morons. I don't like the fact that large corporations get billions of dollars in tax bailout money, then turn around and pay themselves large bonuses. I don't like that Walmart can pay starvation wages to its people, who in turn need to be feed and sheltered by the government. Meanwhile Walmart is raking in billions because YOU are paying to keep its employees from breaking into your house out of sheer desperation.
But the thing I would like most would be if there was no fiat currency holding us all back. No abstract notion of class dividing us. For people to do things because they wanted to do them well. For people to work because they didn't want to sit idle. For those unable to work or contribute due to whatever reasons, to be able to live in relative dignity. For people with an illness to not face the choice of going bankrupt or dying.
My place of employment does not under value me. I'm not sure if you meant it that way or not.
Also just so you know -
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Dr.Wongburger said: Obviously taxes are just fine.
This is referring to trade and property taxation.
To bring you up to speed, this is what we are talking about -
"The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862:"
"Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money."
"In 1906, with the election of President Theodore Roosevelt, and later his successor William Howard Taft, the United States saw a populist movement for tax reform. This movement culminated during then candidate Woodrow Wilson's election of 1912 and in February 1913, the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.""
The subject is strictly income tax coupled with the idea of how it is the income tax payers money and how uncle sam get's to spend the money on what he want's instead of the individual who's money it is and was.
This is not about trade and property taxation.
I'm not sure why you would post other wise other than having not read threw the other posts. It's understandable tho, it's a lot to read threw.
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Dr.Wongburger said: Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!
MY MONEY. Not your money. For example, not for you or anyone to go to college. Going to college is a choice. No one makes a person with freewill attend college. My money should not be took out of MY pay check to pay to support your ass or for any other reason. Key word here is "my". What is mine is mine. What is yours is yours. Where do you or any one else get their filthy hands in on it? IT's my shit motherfuckers. Just because bad shit might happen as a result of preventing theft is not my fucking problem. It's this simple people. Theft is wrong. It's a tough world. It's tragic. It's sad. It's terrible. People die every fucking day. Just because you might be able to prevent death or support some ones ass to go to college by committing theft does not make it okay. When the hell did doing something wrong make a right? This is not Robbing hood. I'm not rich by all mean's but it's the same idea. Yea look real noble "standing up" for the poor. What in the fuck is wrong with you people, why would you support theft.
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At the same time tho I think maybe that's what they need. Maybe that's the right thing to do but can you blame those people for doing what the Government has provide? Is that their fault? Should be not blame liberals or people in government and people who supported it to start with?
Oh really? I hate poor people? Can you quote me on that? I challenge you.
What I hate is how Government steals my money. I also do not like the people who are in support of it. I do not dislike them on a personal level, you can re read my old post's I clearly state I'm good friends with a person who loves welfare.
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Dr.Wongburger said: They fucked up! They got hooked on the income tax! If Lincoln never was killed I guarante you all this socialistic bullshit would of been put to an end after the war! But you know.. that's just my opion maan.
The founding fathers believed in "trade and property taxation".
I'm not sure how you cannot see my anger or dis approval towards government.
So just to clarify, obviously I'm not seeking to live some where with no tax's. Cut the emotional gig. I know it looks and feel's good to be the "Stand up man". There's a bunch of emotion involved. I can see it.
So I suppose that would make your argument about being murdered invalid right?
Regardless if we ever did enter into a state of chaos you would be fighting a battle with angels your going to lose.
I serve a all mighty God and I also have guns.

Just bought this bad boy out side a vape shop. $200 bucks, they go online for $450 plus. Great deal, great condition.

This is a great joy to shoot, ton's of fun and great to practice with.


I have more weapons than this.
I daily carry a FNX 9.
I'm not sure what the "Liberal" thing to do would be if we were in a state of chaos but I can tell you that if it ever happens, there certainly is strength in numbers. I'm not the only one who own's these things, I would certainly be apart of a pretty big militia with the people I already happen to know.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: berrymybody]
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Aww hell yeah.
Pub militia, i'm in!
Somebody start a new thread.
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Citizen X said: Just fucking leave if you're so unhappy.
Leave where? The shroomery or the States? I love this great nation. What other nation has a constitution like ours? We are free to live man!
Great emotion, great emotion. I get enjoyment out of how strongly you keep repetitively implying emotion and how you keep implying that I'm emotional. I'm just fine. Really, you do not have to worry about me.
I had a great night. I visited a friends house and chilled. I had the day off. I work tomorrow but not till later on.
There is no misery here with me. Thank you tho. Please remember text can be misleading when read and not heard when spoken.
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Sticky Green said: Aww hell yeah.
Pub militia, i'm in!
Somebody start a new thread.
Hahaha there should be a "Post your gun's thread"
That new one, I shot it for the first time today. Really really loud. It startled my neighbor. He's always shooting his 22's and such. This time I got to startle him mwhahaha.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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I think there was a "post your weapons" thread. But I've got some new ones, so someone should make another one.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Sticky Green]
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Alright ill hook it up tomorrow if no one else does and grab new and more pictures of weapons I get to fire off. I got's to sleep soon. It's 3am but iv been glued to the shroomery.. gotta step out side to vape some (I dont do it indoors).
fun fun fun tho hehehehe
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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You don't seem happy you keep posting the same crybaby shit over and over. What do you want a pity party?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
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Dr.Wongburger said: You are the one who replied to me in my thread. You also were the one who objected my SINGLE post about it. You are the one who did not like what I had to say about it.
I responded to YOUR messages. I simply explained my self to you and why I have the views I do.
it's called a argument.
So why don't you go wine some where else to other people who you do not agree with.. pshhh your the one who did not like my views and had to pitch in.
Edit:Don't take it the wrong way. I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
I responded to what the guy said. Why does this bother you? "Your so unhappy! why don't you just leave!". Sound's like you are crying, not me! 
No offense by the way. I'm speaking calmly with "!" to get my point across.
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Leave where? The shroomery or the States? I love this great nation. What other nation has a constitution like ours? We are free to live man!
Great emotion, great emotion. I get enjoyment out of how strongly you keep repetitively implying emotion and how you keep implying that I'm emotional. I'm just fine. Really, you do not have to worry about me.
I had a great night. I visited a friends house and chilled. I had the day off. I work tomorrow but not till later on.
There is no misery here with me. Thank you tho. Please remember text can be misleading when read and not heard when spoken.
Either or would be fine w/ me as long as I don't have to hear you complain about income tax anymore. No misery, just 3 pages of how they're stealing from you, yeah you sound real happy to me.
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Your profile picture is a banana dude.. cough...gay...cough
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: 1234go]
#23399964 - 07/01/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea dude i'm a girl
i'm allowed to be gay
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: berrymybody]
#23400419 - 07/01/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Funny now isn't it. You called the thread gay. Now gay is all around you.
Don't be homophobic! I'm not trying to be prejudice here.. don't take me wrong..
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Citizen X said: Just fucking leave if you're so unhappy.
Leave where? The shroomery or the States? I love this great nation. What other nation has a constitution like ours? We are free to live man!
Great emotion, great emotion. I get enjoyment out of how strongly you keep repetitively implying emotion and how you keep implying that I'm emotional. I'm just fine. Really, you do not have to worry about me.
I had a great night. I visited a friends house and chilled. I had the day off. I work tomorrow but not till later on.
There is no misery here with me. Thank you tho. Please remember text can be misleading when read and not heard when spoken.
Either or would be fine w/ me as long as I don't have to hear you complain about income tax anymore. No misery, just 3 pages of how they're stealing from you, yeah you sound real happy to me.
Your crying right now. "Ohhh your not posting what I like.. your hurting my feelings!!! ohhhh the agony!!!"
I feel like you just can't stand how I have pretty much proved that "FUCK the income tax!" is okay and just for every one to see.
Why might this be? Are you upset because if we removed income tax it would take away from or destroy welfare? Is it because if we took away income tax people like me would not be forced to support uninformed people or lazy ass's to go to college? Is it because we would actually have the rights to the fruits of our own labor? I'm not going to list all the positives or negatives of removing the income tax. I'm sure you don't want to read it any ways.
You know what's real funny tho right? You don't have to! There's a block button or you could just avoid me.
Another thing is as I said before.. I'm just responding to other posters.
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Dr.Wongburger said:[Edit:Don't take it the wrong way. I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Is that clear enough? I even quoted it for you! This isn't complicated.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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def not taking u wrong since i have no idea what ur talking about. either way its cool
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: berrymybody]
#23400689 - 07/01/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not to stir up the furnace but you called the thread gay. Implying you do not like gay's the way it was said. Thus since you posted in a gay thread, gay surrounds you when you visit here.
Anyway's you may have not even have been referencing that. If you are talking about the actual subject we have been on here it's about the Income Tax. Disregard the above, if that's what you were speaking of- the subject of discussion.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Dr.Wongburger said:Anyway's you may have not even have been referencing that. If you are talking about the actual subject we have been on here it's about the Income Tax. Disregard the above, if that's what you were speaking of- the subject of discussion.
I thought the actual discussion was why there are no "libtard" smilies. Perhaps I should move this to a more appropriate forum. Starting to get warm in here.
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OP, becuase the libtards would cry about it
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Asante]
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Dr.Wongburger said: Not to stir up the furnace but you called the thread gay. Implying you do not like gay's the way it was said. Thus since you posted in a gay thread, gay surrounds you when you visit here.
Anyway's you may have not even have been referencing that. If you are talking about the actual subject we have been on here it's about the Income Tax. Disregard the above, if that's what you were speaking of- the subject of discussion.
i don't know if anyone was talking about that. but i just found the term antagonistic and ignorant. i'm no liberal or conservative or what have you, but the lingo just triggers my gag reflex or something
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Dr.Wongburger said:Anyway's you may have not even have been referencing that. If you are talking about the actual subject we have been on here it's about the Income Tax. Disregard the above, if that's what you were speaking of- the subject of discussion.
I thought the actual discussion was why there are no "libtard" smilies. Perhaps I should move this to a more appropriate forum. Starting to get warm in here.
Alright alright, Iv made some bad choices and have been a little overly rough with people in this thread I will admit. I actually meant what it has developed into- the subject. There's probably no way for any one to understand that tho off the bat so I understand the confusion. I guess it's all tied in since I have been blaming liberals and liberals in Government for the income tax I suppose.
I had no idea you were a administrator btw! Thank you for your service. 
There should be a shroomery holiday. Kind of like a "National day" for the site and admins.
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That's pretty funny man! I never thought of it that way! In that case it's pretty positive. Just meaning some one is hammered on shrooms.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: berrymybody]
#23401039 - 07/01/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You know when I first heard the word from Pris#1 I was not to fond of it myself. Then one night I got a little drunk and made this thread.
Normal I do not post right out rude things as threads. It happen tho, what can I say I take fault for it
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hmm I think your just selfish and arrogant. You claim to be this mighty "reaseacher" full of knowledge like your above everyone. Most conservative are like that... stubborn, cant change, wont accept the future... or reality.
Selfish to think that you are so fucking important that you that people dont deserve you taxes. Socialism is one of the many things you still have worked out yet because your country is still a little child having a tantrum and refusing to grow up like the rest of the world. Always thinking about yourself... how utterly selfish. Not sparing a thought for other... how very un christian of you. Some people are born into poverty, some people just become homeless overnight. Lots of bad shit happens to good people. Sometimes people need socialism to get back on their feet. Or just for every day living such as free healthcare... Because when I was injured and had to take time off work... your bloody glad the government can pitch in and help you instead of becoming homeless.
Maybe you should discuss kindness and sharing with your magical sky fairy one day. And maybe research other countries and how well they do compared to murica, in basically every category.
Also your constitution is also outdated just like the church its horribly irrelevant in 2016. Its like you just cant help yourself trying to cover up your countries flaws.
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kakashi68 said: hmm I think your just selfish and arrogant. You claim to be this mighty "reaseacher" full of knowledge like your above everyone. Most conservative are like that... stubborn, cant change, wont accept the future... or reality.
Selfish to think that you are so fucking important that you that people dont deserve you taxes. Socialism is one of the many things you still have worked out yet because your country is still a little child having a tantrum and refusing to grow up like the rest of the world. Always thinking about yourself... how utterly selfish. Not sparing a thought for other... how very un christian of you. Some people are born into poverty, some people just become homeless overnight. Lots of bad shit happens to good people. Sometimes people need socialism to get back on their feet. Or just for every day living such as free healthcare... Because when I was injured and had to take time off work... your bloody glad the government can pitch in and help you instead of becoming homeless.
Maybe you should discuss kindness and sharing with your magical sky fairy one day. And maybe research other countries and how well they do compared to murica, in basically every category.
Also your constitution is also outdated just like the church its horribly irrelevant in 2016. Its like you just cant help yourself trying to cover up your countries flaws.
Some folks are indviduals, some are hive minded, surely the world is big enough for all?
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kakashi68 said: hmm I think your just selfish and arrogant. You claim to be this mighty "reaseacher" full of knowledge like your above everyone. Most conservative are like that... stubborn, cant change, wont accept the future... or reality.
Selfish to think that you are so fucking important that you that people dont deserve you taxes. Socialism is one of the many things you still have worked out yet because your country is still a little child having a tantrum and refusing to grow up like the rest of the world. Always thinking about yourself... how utterly selfish. Not sparing a thought for other... how very un christian of you. Some people are born into poverty, some people just become homeless overnight. Lots of bad shit happens to good people. Sometimes people need socialism to get back on their feet. Or just for every day living such as free healthcare... Because when I was injured and had to take time off work... your bloody glad the government can pitch in and help you instead of becoming homeless.
Maybe you should discuss kindness and sharing with your magical sky fairy one day. And maybe research other countries and how well they do compared to murica, in basically every category.
Also your constitution is also outdated just like the church its horribly irrelevant in 2016. Its like you just cant help yourself trying to cover up your countries flaws.
Some folks are indviduals, some are hive minded, surely the world is big enough for all?
Sure you can believe what ever you want... but thats not how society works. Society best functions when you dont have a corrupt governement and everybody puts in their fair share... so when you are having the worst moments of you life, all that money you put in and everyone else will help you.
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kakashi68 said: hmm I think your just selfish and arrogant. You claim to be this mighty "reaseacher" full of knowledge like your above everyone. Most conservative are like that... stubborn, cant change, wont accept the future... or reality.
Selfish to think that you are so fucking important that you that people dont deserve you taxes. Socialism is one of the many things you still have worked out yet because your country is still a little child having a tantrum and refusing to grow up like the rest of the world. Always thinking about yourself... how utterly selfish. Not sparing a thought for other... how very un christian of you. Some people are born into poverty, some people just become homeless overnight. Lots of bad shit happens to good people. Sometimes people need socialism to get back on their feet. Or just for every day living such as free healthcare... Because when I was injured and had to take time off work... your bloody glad the government can pitch in and help you instead of becoming homeless.
Maybe you should discuss kindness and sharing with your magical sky fairy one day. And maybe research other countries and how well they do compared to murica, in basically every category.
Also your constitution is also outdated just like the church its horribly irrelevant in 2016. Its like you just cant help yourself trying to cover up your countries flaws.
Hi kakashi68, welcome back to the shroomery! We have missed you, you are a valued member. Thank you for your time. Kakashi, it's important to remember that the United States is set up under a different type of Government than Australia. I can understand where the confusion may come from and how many from around that part of the world might not understand. When researching the United States you will come to find that it is listed as a Constitutional republic. To start with let's dive into what a "Republic" is.
A Republic is defined as the following:
a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
2 : a body of persons freely engaged in a specified activity <the republic of letters>
3 : a constituent political and territorial unit of the former nations of Czechoslovakia, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or Yugoslavia
As you can see these definition are all important towards what a republic is and has been. Now that we have the basic definition of a republic and what it is, we can dig deeper. Let's look at "Constitutional". It's important that we under stand what the word Constitutional means. It is defined as the following:
1 : relating to, inherent in, or affecting the constitution of body or mind
2 : of, relating to, or entering into the fundamental makeup of something : essential
3 : being in accordance with or authorized by the constitution of a state or society <a constitutional government>
4 : regulated by or ruling according to a constitution <a constitutional monarchy>
5 : of or relating to a constitution <a constitutional crisis>
6 : loyal to or supporting an established constitution or form of government
Now that we understand the two word's and their definitions it's time to move on. When we search more we find Governmental definitions. A Governmental definition will cover "Constitutional republic" and define it. After we search carefully we find a definition. Different websites around the world commonly define a Constitutional republic as the following:
A Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.
A Constitutional Republic is the current form of government in the United States. However, in recent years, many people have criticized the federal government for moving away from a Constitutional Republic, as defined by the Constitution, and towards a pure democracy.[1]
It is controlled by Law, at least by its Constitution; It recognizes the private independent sovereign nature of each man or woman of competent age and capacity; recognizing those people as the collective source of all authority in government [including but not limited to: the government’s claim to sovereignty; (which is actually the limited authority to administrate a small portion of said peoples’ collective sovereign authority); and, Regarding that individual sovereignty the government must therefore be representative in its nature. Therefore, if a government can create or control its Law, obviously, Law does not control that government; such a government is not a Republic. A Republic must recognize that Law is unchangeable, or at least that it can only be changed by a higher source than government; this limitation does not limit the government from generating statutes in accord with both said laws and the Constitution; through which instrument, all of the authority the government can acquire from the people is acquired.
“A Constitutional Republic” is a government created and controlled, at least, by the Law of a Constitution. The Constitution of the United States of America was, in Law, foundationally based on the Bible, the Magna Carta, the principles of The Declaration of Independence and upon the experience of the people. Those documents recognize the divine nature of man’s creation, man’s sovereignty and man’s divine right to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness.
Time to move on! We are making great progress here Kakashi! Thank you once again for your undivided attention. The ability to teach those who are not informed is a considered by some to be a gift from God. Let's start with national religion. Let's dig in!
This was pulled from a source of the internet. I feel for you Kakashi you will appreciate this like a "fine wine" sort of to speak rather than having me explain it in my own words:
The United States federal government was the first national government to have no official state-endorsed religion.[11] However, some states had established religions in some form until the 1830s.
Modeling the provisions concerning religion within the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, the framers of the Constitution rejected any religious test for office, and the First Amendment specifically denied the federal government any power to enact any law respecting either an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise, thus protecting any religious organization, institution, or denomination from government interference. The decision was mainly influenced by European Rationalist and Protestant ideals, but was also a consequence of the pragmatic concerns of minority religious groups and small states that did not want to be under the power or influence of a national religion that did not represent them.[12]
Now that we have a understanding of religion and how it work's in the United States let's look at population and religion. This also is a excerpt also pulled from a internet source:
In 1963, 90% of Americans claimed to be Christians while only 2% professed no religious identity.[10] In 2014, the percentage of Christians was closer to 70% with close to 23% claiming no religious identity.
Now that we have that understanding of Christianity in the USA I will address your comment on socialism. Most Christians here (in my circle of people I have lived with and been around growing up and such over the years + close friends actually believe that Socialism is man trying to meet his own need's with out God. We call that the system of Babylon. We actually see it as of being unGodly and evil. This is not meant to spark offense towards you.
I greatly value the fruit of my own labor.
Kakashi you have been great to work with today and I hope you enjoyed the read. Just to clarify no one here is trying to remove property and trade taxation's my only argument has been to remove of the income tax. Many American's here love their freedom, being treated like grown up responsible adults, being able to do what they want when they want, they love freedom. If you think about it a little bit adults have more freedom than children. I'm not trying to say your Government or any other's are treating their subjects/people like children. I'm not worried about other nations. I think their great. What I am saying is the United States treat's their people like grown adults. I do know that money from income tax is used on welfare, college, defense, transportation and other things in lesser amounts if I remember correctly. It is possible that money from other sources go to welfare other than just income tax. I hope that may help you settle more.
Have a great day Kakasi.
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http://www.governmentvs.com/en/constitutional-republic-definition/model-47-11 http://www.conservapedia.com/Constitutional_Republic http://www.teamlaw.net/ConstitutionalRepublic.htm http://definitions.uslegal.com/c/constitutional-republic/ http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/constitutional http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#Freedom_of_religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:United_States
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I see nothing there to justify not paying tax. I do see why I am super happy to live in a country not defined by subservience to YHWH.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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My response to kakashi was not to justify not paying a income tax. It was to explain some fundamental's of the United States so he can compare and contrast the USA & Australia. It was a response to his post in hopes of helping him understand where I'm coming from.
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How much meth do you smoke?
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twighead said: How much meth do you smoke?
I know my status may say "tweaking". I will change that. I have never used meth before. Currently the only substance in my life that I use would be Kratom and Alcohol. Kratom more often than alcohol. Alcohol is not a occurrence that happens often. Thank you for you question.
P.S. I thought tweaking was a comedic status. Also to express exertion of energy.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Wow, can't believe you wasted that much time responding to him.
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It's understood by me that your response is towards kakashi but I would like to recap on a post by Kakashi to help every one understand where I'm coming from and why my previous lengthy response is as it was.
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kakashi68 said: ooo spew those lies, spew those horrible disturbingly wrong lies onto your shitty flag.
unregulated drugs is just stupid.....
Guns should be heavily regulated
Americans need to be heavily regulated UNTIL IT LEARNS TO GROW THE FUCK AND STOP BEING A SELFISH CHILD
YOU DONT DESERVE FREEDOM, YOUR FUCKED UP COUNTRY NEED RULES, BOUNDARIES, DISCIPLINE.
Freedom is for nations who are respectful, think others, not having a totally corrupt government. Freedom is for countries who support each other at the basic level by providing universal healthcare so its not your credit card that decides your treatment.
You dont deserve freedom til your country grows up and takes responsibility for its actions.
Since my previous responses towards him have been hostile after his post here, I'm trying to be as courteous as possible.
Edited by Dr.Wongburger (07/01/16 09:36 PM)
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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twighead said: How much meth do you smoke?
I know my status may say "tweaking". I will change that. I have never used meth before. Currently the only substance in my life that I use would be Kratom and Alcohol. Kratom more often than alcohol. Alcohol is not a occurrence that happens often. Thank you for you question.
P.S. I thought tweaking was a comedic status. Also to express exertion of energy.
I didn't even see that, I just thought that was an absurd amount of effort to expend on someone who so insularly resides in his own anus as Kakashi
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Sticky Green]
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Sticky Green said: Wow, can't believe you wasted that much time responding to him.
I understand it seem's large but if you re read the post you will see that definitions are from external sources (internet).
If you check out how much I typed up it really was not that much.
For example something like scribe jobs are very popular online, it's even more simple when the information is coming from your self.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: How much meth do you smoke?
I know my status may say "tweaking". I will change that. I have never used meth before. Currently the only substance in my life that I use would be Kratom and Alcohol. Kratom more often than alcohol. Alcohol is not a occurrence that happens often. Thank you for you question.
P.S. I thought tweaking was a comedic status. Also to express exertion of energy.
I didn't even see that, I just thought that was an absurd amount of effort to expend on someone who so insularly resides in his own anus as Kakashi 
It's alright. I really do enjoy this! It's why I'm here. I worked all day, came home. Used some kratom, vaped and now I'm just chillin on the shroomery. Not much new entertainment on youtube for me lately. I may check out some more DigitalRev. I find them very entertaining. Check em out if you like video cameras.
Tomorrow night I shall go out to hang out with friends as I did last night but sometimes it's just nice to sit at home and do nothing
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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I didn't read the thread to see any other entries.
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Terrible that some one would put a gun to their head like that haha.
Makes me cringe when I see lack of common sense mixed with guns.
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It's funny any side would claim superiority over the other 
For every retardation of the democrats there is something equally damning for the repubs
Namely the mother fucking drug war...
oooooh but I thought republicans were all about small government and personal rights?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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You cant run a country without income tax... it just doesnt work... Yes tax brackets are often fucked and rich need to be taxed more... but you cant just expect to run a country with barely any tax revenue.
You obviously dont understand how countries or economies even work on a basic level.
"treats there citizens like adults" dont make me laugh. Your high school is about two years lower in difficulty to ours. Look at you, believing in fake sky fairies and not even know how an economy works.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Astral Pain]
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Pretty sure this is why Australia banned guns, too many of their voters wanted to see where the rabbit hole leads
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: kakashi68]
#23403701 - 07/02/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: You cant run a country without income tax... it just doesnt work... Yes tax brackets are often fucked and rich need to be taxed more... but you cant just expect to run a country with barely any tax revenue.
You obviously dont understand how countries or economies even work on a basic level.
"treats there citizens like adults" dont make me laugh. Your high school is about two years lower in difficulty to ours. Look at you, believing in fake sky fairies and not even know how an economy works.
Hi Kakashi and thank you for your response. I did forget to cover education in the USA. It's a lesson for another time. However I will briefly tell you we have Public schools or citizens can choose to put their loved ones into private schools. We have the choice of education here and are not restricted towards Government provided education. In other words we can go above and beyond or stay at standard. In most scenarios however "above and beyond" usually falls under the category of private education.
I do believe when you said "Your high school is about two years lower in difficulty than* ours" that you were referencing to Government standards right?
I suggest you look up the popularity of private education here in the United States. Private education can be but is not limited to homeschooling, there are also actual schools built for parents or guardians to bring their young ones to attend, just like how public school's are build but these ones are private and usually more wealthy and empowered.
In the state of Florida for example we have 13 year's of education. Which I find really unnecessary and stupid on a personal level. Education in private school's or threw teachers in homeschooling with 12 year's is more than enough. However that is my opinion on the subject just like your opinion that 2 more year's makes a significance difference in the educational process regardless of how the process is brought about- quality of the education, standards which might or might not matter and quality of the under age persons life which may change who they are in the future.
I personally believe time efficiency is important to get those young people up and started in life and if a high quality education can be brought about not only higher quality but in a shorter amount of time, then so be it.
Honestly I'm not for public education, if I ever have children I will be putting them into private schooling. Not saying the public education here is always worse but depending on where you live. Some times there is more of a population and less staff in public school's vs private. Other times the quality of education is really really good in public schooling. It all depends on location.
I happen to favor private education's regardless.
Now.. let me explain something.. the United States became a country in 1776 or 1783 depending on who you ask they might say something different, some consider the deceleration of independence when we became the Union.
Anyways keep in mind we were a country in 1776, the United States went until the July of 1862 with out a income tax. That my friend is 86 year's with out a income tax! EIGHTY SIX! Your telling me no country has been able to stand with out a income tax? I'm telling you this one has!
You have to understand this is the only reasons we adopted a income tax originally :
In July 1862, during the American Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and Congress passed the Revenue Act of 1862, creating the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue and enacting a temporary income tax to pay war expenses.
The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862
In this nation we are supposed to have the rights to the fruits of our own labor. It was ONLY and ONLY originated originally because of serious war time that would of destroyed this place. It also does not make it right.
Did the south follow the legal means to separate from the Union? That's a matter of debate and a side of things generally not taught. If they did they should of allowed them to leave the Union there would of been no war and no income tax ever needed.
Please do not get me wrong. I think it's great we won the war. I think it's great we don't have slaves today and I would hate to be living in a world where the United states is split into two different nations.
However I am about rights and if they had the right to leave the Union then more power to em. I do believe in certain places they were expressing excessive military power- not of the Unions and declaring their own status of a state of authority which is not following the legal means. I may be wrong as said I have not studied this are extensively.
But like I said.. that's up for debate. I have not studied it in depth..
Now back to topic :
Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.
No income tax for 19 years after that.
That's very important to understand. Think about the war that just happened. The devastation. Because the country was nearly destroyed is why they brought back the income tax they needed cash. Now day's we are stable. This entire time they should of been weening off of the income tax. It's wrong. It's theft.
Now lets look at this. We have a total of 105 year's of no Income tax.. yea. We don't need it. However the simple fact of the matter is it does not matter if we do need it!
Need or want is NOT the issue here. This is simple.
As a free American I'm supposed to have a right to my own life (that's why a draft here for military force has NEVER been justified) and I'm supposed to have a right to the fruits of my own labor!
If you take money out my paycheck and I did not give it to you it's theft! It does not matter if they found legal loop holes and created legal loop holes to commit theft legally. It's still theft.
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In your country and culture maybe they do not consider taking something with out permission theft. I don't know. Maybe every one has signed a paper and agreed that if they want to live in Australia they will donate cash to the government.
You can paint the picture a certain, make it look pretty, make it look desirable and boast about the good's of it and how it's helping people.
The truth is tho THEFT is THEFT. If you take what's not yours with out permission that is theft. Income Tax in the United States is theft.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23403706 - 07/02/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wesley Snipes said the same shit and ain't nobody gave a fuck, he still went to prison for not paying income tax.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Dr.Wong burger said: However I will briefly tell you we have Public schools or citizens can choose to put their loved ones into private schools. We have the choice of education here and are not restricted towards Government provided education.
By what criteria is this choice made? Can a child born to some crack head just decide that they want a good education and not go to a school with metal detectors? Is that a choice they can make? It's not their fault their parents are crack heads, maybe they are potentially brilliant people who might cure cancer or figure out faster than light travel. If only they went to a good private school.
You seem to think like a lot of publicans do, that choices are easy and everywhere. The reality is they are not. Some people can choose to do whatever they wish. But many people have their choices made for them before they were born.
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Dr.Wong burger said: However I will briefly tell you we have Public schools or citizens can choose to put their loved ones into private schools. We have the choice of education here and are not restricted towards Government provided education.
By what criteria is this choice made? Can a child born to some crack head just decide that they want a good education and not go to a school with metal detectors? Is that a choice they can make? It's not their fault their parents are crack heads, maybe they are brilliant people who might cure cancer or figure out faster than light travel. If only they went to a good private school.
You seem to think like a lot of publicans do, that choices are easy and everywhere. The reality is they are not. Some people can choose to do whatever they wish. But many people have their choices made for them before they were born.
The decision is based on my own personal experiences. Sure there are drugs, violence and trash and depending on which private school a lack of a good educational experience provided. In my area however there are some seemingly pretty good private schools or so it seem's. We all want the best for our children right? Right now at this point in my life I probably would not be able to afford it but I like to think there is still some good people out there and they would work with me. However if they choose not to, that's tough luck for me!
That comes to conclude that the world is a tough place. It's rough man. It really is. I'm not denying this fact. I live in a society that is not meant to be a perfect or a well-being "always" society. I live in what is meant to be free society. Freedom has consequences. Very bad ones at times!
Depending on the area, the child of a crack head may receive a well off education or a very bad one, from public schooling. Same goes for private.
I just wanted to clarify toward's him the fact is that there are other choices and people are using their options if they can. This is said to help him understand that even tho they may be legally required to attend two more year's of schooling than underage people in the United States that even public wise or private wise it does not by all means create a general sense that our education system is inferior.
Choices may be everywhere but not every one has them. It's rough. Have I been able to experience the best choices in life? Absolutely not. Not many things are accessible to me. You might say why don't you just buy this or buy that.. or do this or do that. Because it's tough out there and I only can afford what i can afford- the basics of life.
The blood of a crack head goes to the child. The blood line is not as fortunate. It's tough man. Blood is important, don't let any one tell you different.
This society is not always fair. It's not meant to be. It's free.
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Private education sounds nice. Except it creates a two class system.
Most every person in the country, attends a public school.
People that are rich attend a private school.
Access to private schools better education is based solely on your parent's income. Not your merit or intelligence or hard work. Simply privledge.
This better education allows easier access to better more illustrious colleges. Access into fraternities and other groups is based a lot on your previous education, someone who went to private school will get picked over someone who went to public school 9 times out of ten.
Past college, when you apply for work. Not apply for Taco Bell or the mall, but for top of the paygrade professions like working for Goldman Sachs, or getting into politics. For these professions, members of fraternities and graduates from Ivy League schools, of which you would most likely need to have been to private school to been a member, are almost exclusively hired.
This is how money keeps it in the family. Hire and support their neighbors and fraternity brothers.
If the elite of the country had to send their children and grandchildren to the same public schools the rest of the country has to attend. I bet our education system would have be in a lot better shape. As it is, why would the politicians and the billionaires that own them give a shit how our kids education system is, they can afford to skip this shit system and go straight to schools that have books published in this millennium.
The people who are the loudest in support of private schools, in my experience are right wing conservative, religious people in America. Most often it's middle to low class regular folks with regular jobs. Who most likely went to public school. They think the private education is the way to go because of how shit the public schools are.
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Geoff Peterson said: Wesley Snipes said the same shit and ain't nobody gave a fuck, he still went to prison for not paying income tax.
You are dealing with the mafia here. If you don't pay up they are gonna hit ya and they are gonna hit ya hard.
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The mafia doesn't provide a service, they just steal. At least when speaking on extortion.
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Supachopped719 said: Private education sounds nice. Except it creates a two class system.
Most every person in the country, attends a public school.
People that are rich attend a private school.
Access to private schools better education is based solely on your parent's income. Not your merit or intelligence or hard work. Simply privledge.
This better education allows easier access to better more illustrious colleges. Access into fraternities and other groups is based a lot on your previous education, someone who went to private school will get picked over someone who went to public school 9 times out of ten.
Past college, when you apply for work. Not apply for Taco Bell or the mall, but for top of the paygrade professions like working for Goldman Sachs, or getting into politics. For these professions, members of fraternities and graduates from Ivy League schools, of which you would most likely need to have been to private school to been a member, are almost exclusively hired.
This is how money keeps it in the family. Hire and support their neighbors and fraternity brothers.
If the elite of the country had to send their children and grandchildren to the same public schools the rest of the country has to attend. I bet our education system would have be in a lot better shape. As it is, why would the politicians and the billionaires that own them give a shit how our kids education system is, they can afford to skip this shit system and go straight to schools that have books published in this millennium.
The people who are the loudest in support of private schools, in my experience are right wing conservative, religious people in America. Most often it's middle to low class regular folks with regular jobs. Who most likely went to public school. They think the private education is the way to go because of how shit the public schools are.
It's definitely a bloodline. If you are born with the right blood you have the best. Blood is very important. I hope that is very clear to every one.
I personally went to public schooling. I do agree that private school's should be allowed and there's nothing wrong with it. Free society. A tough society. But that's what freedom is. It's tough.
I love freedom tho with all my insides.
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The problem with conservatives is that they're not conservative. They preach about small government & all that......but in reality they're all about government sticking it's nose in people's business. They don't like spending tax money on social issues, but have no problem blowing it on weapons & impeding on people's rights in the name of the bible. If the "conservatives" had their way, America would be ruled by the law of the bible; a Christian version of shariah law. While I don't align myself with any particular party & tend to be more fiscally conservative, I'm extremely liberal from a social viewpoint. I don't give a shit what religion one chooses to follow, but when you try to force it down my throat; Those morons are impeding social progress & will continue to do so thanks to their book of fairy tales.
Furthermore, Trump is a moron. An egotistical, misogynistic, racist douche with a poor history running his own businesses. The man is hypocrite, a flip flopper & no one really knows what he stands for. Dude just diarrhea's out of his mouth & the morons of the country laps it up. The fact that he may be our next president is terrifying.
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Dr.Wongburger said: I live in a society that is not meant to be a perfect or a well-being "always" society. I live in what is meant to be free society. Freedom has consequences. Very bad ones at times!
So why do we need to settle for less? Why not have a society that is not only free but fair? It can be done. Remove the blocks that are in place to safeguard class division and you will have less social strain. Less social strain means less need for police, surveillance, social assistance programs, etc. All the shit that is costing you in taxes, would be far less of a factor if you actually had a level playing field.
It costs less to buy a homeless person a house to live in and get him off the street, than it does in police, emergency, and judicial services. Not only are they no longer a drain socially, but in most situations, they actually start to contribute back.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Supachopped719]
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Supachopped719 said: Private education sounds nice. Except it creates a two class system.
Most every person in the country, attends a public school.
People that are rich attend a private school.
Access to private schools better education is based solely on your parent's income. Not your merit or intelligence or hard work. Simply privledge.
This better education allows easier access to better more illustrious colleges. Access into fraternities and other groups is based a lot on your previous education, someone who went to private school will get picked over someone who went to public school 9 times out of ten.
Past college, when you apply for work. Not apply for Taco Bell or the mall, but for top of the paygrade professions like working for Goldman Sachs, or getting into politics. For these professions, members of fraternities and graduates from Ivy League schools, of which you would most likely need to have been to private school to been a member, are almost exclusively hired.
This is how money keeps it in the family. Hire and support their neighbors and fraternity brothers.
If the elite of the country had to send their children and grandchildren to the same public schools the rest of the country has to attend. I bet our education system would have be in a lot better shape. As it is, why would the politicians and the billionaires that own them give a shit how our kids education system is, they can afford to skip this shit system and go straight to schools that have books published in this millennium.
The people who are the loudest in support of private schools, in my experience are right wing conservative, religious people in America. Most often it's middle to low class regular folks with regular jobs. Who most likely went to public school. They think the private education is the way to go because of how shit the public schools are.
Students graduating from public schools get into Ivy League universities and other prestigious colleges all the time, so I don't understand your complaint.
The money spent on many shitty public schools is very high, so what does that tell us? It's not the teachers and buildings that suck, it's the students that suck!!
Why do those students suck so much at school? Because they come from broken homes and terrible environments, money can't fix those students.
This so called "privilege" that you speak of really isn't there today, everyone has equal access to high level education, not having equal outcomes doesn't mean that the opportunity isn't there.
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Supachopped719 said: The mafia doesn't provide a service, they just steal. At least when speaking on extortion.
You get my point tho? The government will stick ya in jail if you don't pay up. Then onto prison. For the rest of your life.
All because we are demanded to "support" people to sit on their ass's or go to college.
Don't get me wrong helping the disabled is important. They should be helped. Self defense is important and so is transport. But that shit SHOULD NOT come out of our paychecks.
There's other options out there. The "consumption tax" is one. Not saying that's any good or what not. I have not studied it.
I'm just saying there are other options out there, and if they did choose other options we could get rid of paying for people to go to college. Because this a free society that is tough as shit and meant to be so they could also remove assisted living bullshit- to where people pay rent according to what they make, Id personally rather go homeless then do that, I have friends that have gone homeless still worked and just couch surfed for sometime or did whatever not to avoid that but you get the idea, it's that or get your ass a second job, get a better job or change locations do what you got to do in life to better your situations.
I'm not hating on people currently taking advantage of the system. Their doing what is available in life. Please no one get this confused.
Guess what? I could probably qualify for assisted living. But you know what I'm not a bitch and I live in a shit apartment. People would get by with out it man. I'm telling you guys. I'm not saying just yank it away from them. Everyone is addicted to it currently..
I'm not the president so I don't know how to get em off of it but there is a way.
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I spent years strung out on drugs. The county or state (I forget which) paid for me to go to rehab, then to outpatient. Once I'd been clean for several months, I was enrolled in a vocational rehabilitation program that used government money to pay for my schooling. I now have a degree, certification & am a licensed health care professional. I'm gainfully employed, doing what I enjoy & making a difference in people's lives. And I'm paying back into those very programs through my taxes. Were it not for those programs, I wouldn't be where I'm at today....and if were still alive I would certainly be a drain on society. It didn't cost all that much to get me here. Certainly less than a year as a guest of the state costs.
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Dark_Star said: The problem with conservatives is that they're not conservative. They preach about small government & all that......but in reality they're all about government sticking it's nose in people's business. They don't like spending tax money on social issues, but have no problem blowing it on weapons & impeding on people's rights in the name of the bible. If the "conservatives" had their way, America would be ruled by the law of the bible; a Christian version of shariah law. While I don't align myself with any particular party & tend to be more fiscally conservative, I'm extremely liberal from a social viewpoint. I don't give a shit what religion one chooses to follow, but when you try to force it down my throat; Those morons are impeding social progress & will continue to do so thanks to their book of fairy tales.
Furthermore, Trump is a moron. An egotistical, misogynistic, racist douche with a poor history running his own businesses. The man is hypocrite, a flip flopper & no one really knows what he stands for. Dude just diarrhea's out of his mouth & the morons of the country laps it up. The fact that he may be our next president is terrifying.
Just to let you know in case you or anyone else has been wondering I'm a libertarian. I'm also against interventionism. I say let other nations do what ever the fuck they want over there. Let's not bother those people. I'm extremely relaxed with freedoms.
I say do what you want in life, have the rights to your own life, property and paycheck. Legalize drugs, shut down the DEA, Federal ED, FDA, IRS and kick the United Nations out of America.
P.S. If any one is wondering, I do not support Trump or Hilary. If I was forced with a gun to my head to pick one it would be trump. I really find none of these guy's to appealing.. I guess Ted Cruz? Idk man... Tough shit tho.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Dr.Wongburger said: I live in a society that is not meant to be a perfect or a well-being "always" society. I live in what is meant to be free society. Freedom has consequences. Very bad ones at times!
So why do we need to settle for less? Why not have a society that is not only free but fair? It can be done. Remove the blocks that are in place to safeguard class division and you will have less social strain. Less social strain means less need for police, surveillance, social assistance programs, etc. All the shit that is costing you in taxes, would be far less of a factor if you actually had a level playing field.
It costs less to buy a homeless person a house to live in and get him off the street, than it does in police, emergency, and judicial services. Not only are they no longer a drain socially, but in most situations, they actually start to contribute back.
Government here is meant to be Government they are here to ensure our freedom's and keep us free (not to sound offensive here) but not to baby people- adults.
I don't agree with any current surveillance program's even if it's being legally done but that's another story. I'm all for buying homeless people homes, helping people stay off the streets, loving the shit at of people and giving. My thing is tho I do not believe Government is meant to do it.
Seeing it as other organization would probably take over, I know that sound's funny but it's estimated 70% of people here are Christians. I do not find it abnormal to talk about the subject even if the the other 30% likes to think it is not peripheral to the church or belief system. The norm is to believe in Christianity here, regardless of how people publicly claim to feel about it.
With that said and such large numbers the Church should be passing up some of that money to help people out instead of keeping it all for them selves. I believe that to be biblical.
Anyway's that diving into personal beliefs.
Regardless church or not church organizations or no organization I believe it not to be the Governments job to do those things other than helping the disabled (not threw the income tax tho). There's probably other things you mentioned but damn i'm pretty shot right now man lol. I'm gonna take some kratom.. that will wake me up. hehe 
Thank you tho for being so kind in your response.. I try also..my self.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23403898 - 07/02/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm glad to hear your life is turning out good. Don't think people like me hate you. It's not that at all. People like me just think free market- things other than gov would take over and provide all these things instead of government.
The transition now days.. might be ludicrous. I'm not sure how it would work. Regardless I do know income tax should not be legal. Money for it all should come from some where else. Such as of taxes on items related to the subjects.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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What exactly would "free market things" do differently that doesn't involve costing you money?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Dr.Wongburger said: I'm all for buying homeless people homes, helping people stay off the streets, loving the shit at of people and giving. My thing is tho I do not believe Government is meant to do it.
If not the government then who? The people responsible for the mess in the first place? Don't look at them, they are busy trying to figure out how to wring a little more out of the hyperstressed populace and finite planet. The church(s)? Don't hold your breath, they are just as culpable as all the other guilty parties.
It is up to the government. But the problem with most governments is that they no longer see themselves as public servants. Instead they are "leaders". They went ahead and created their own class, unaccountable to most.
Libertarianism is retarded. It might have been a viable thought 200 years ago, but today it's completely out of touch. Unless you want to go off into the woods and live with pre industrial technology, there is no way you can extracate yourself from society. If you live in society or benefit from it, then you need to give back. Otherwise you are a leech on the rest of us who do give back.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek]
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Geoff Peterson said: What exactly would "free market things" do differently that doesn't involve costing you money?
Let's be frank here, money is a big deal. Anyone that say's it isn't has never gone without it before. Money is a huge deal.
Free market does not have to do any thing. I personally believe it would tho. It usually mean's better/higher quality every thing, most of the time never bare minimum- excursiveness. If free market did take over it would start replacing every thing government does already, getting people into college, assisted living situations, straight up jobless people, all that stuff.
If Government want's to continue to do the things crooked like they are social wise then they need to get the cash some where else and not from my paycheck.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Literally the only thing the free market is interested in is profits. Thinking that they'll pick up social work is some sort of libertarians delusion
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I think you're either a simpleton with a child's grasp on these concepts, or you're a troll intentionally stirring shit up in here with multiple incendiary topic threads.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Dr.Wongburger said: I'm all for buying homeless people homes, helping people stay off the streets, loving the shit at of people and giving. My thing is tho I do not believe Government is meant to do it.
If not the government then who? The people responsible for the mess in the first place? Don't look at them, they are busy trying to figure out how to wring a little more out of the hyper-stressed populace and finite planet. The church(s)? Don't hold your breath, they are just as culpable as all the other guilty parties.
It is up to the government. But the problem with most governments is that they no longer see themselves as public servants. Instead they are "leaders". They went ahead and created their own class, unaccountable to most.
Libertarianism is retarded. It might have been a viable thought 200 years ago, but today it's completely out of touch. Unless you want to go off into the woods and live with pre industrial technology, there is no way you can extricate yourself from society. If you live in society or benefit from it, then you need to give back. Otherwise you are a leech on the rest of us who do give back.
This is where me and you disagree. I think no one has to do it. I see it as a "tough world" and if things go south then it's tough luck from there and that's just "to bad".
Regardless if it must continue the money should come from else where- some other form of taxation and not from my paycheck- income tax. There have been strives for tax reform this year. Idk which would work best but I have heard of the "consumption tax" also called the "fair tax". I can't comment on these things I just like how it would abolish the IRS.
I have to work to live. I don't like my living being taxed. I have to eat food. They do not tax my food thankfully (not that this justify's anything). No one forces me to buy items that may have higher taxs due to a tax reform. Luxury things or items like tv's or what not everyday things.. I'm just saying.. get the money from else where. not my paycheck. That's it haha. It really is. If it must continue.. okay, even tho I don't agree with it but don't steal from me.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: Literally the only thing the free market is interested in is profits. Thinking that they'll pick up social work is some sort of libertarians delusion 
I can't speak for all libertarians (I actually had these views before knowing I was a libertarian and used the name because that's what i am apparently, many things match up)
but if you look at history and study you will find that we did not always have these social services. I suggest you do some research and discover how things used to work before big brother took over.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Yes I'm aware of what things were like in the 1890s...
Unrestrained industrial scale businesses and monopolistic control over sources of income, housing, and food do not a healthy society make.
Thank god for Teddy Roosevelt. Bringing the tyranny of workers rights
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek]
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Geoff Peterson said: I think you're either a simpleton with a child's grasp on these concepts, or you're a troll intentionally stirring shit up in here with multiple incendiary topic threads.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: idiotek]
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Geoff Peterson said: I think you're either a simpleton with a child's grasp on these concepts, or you're a troll intentionally stirring shit up in here with multiple incendiary topic threads.
I have been a member of this community for 9 years. Even tho my profile say's otherwise my original account has been lost in the sands of time - My password was saved in gmail account along with my security code, one day I was messed up on drugs and paranoid, with all the incriminating things that I used to do back then associated with that email address I deleted the account and a few day's later the account was un accessible.
I'm not sure if that's breaking the rules but there is absolutely nothing I can do about it and it's gone forever. Can you imagine having a account made 9 year's ago then ( a few years back ) you don't get to have it any more? Every one see's me as a newb now I'm sure but i don't fucking care I moved on.
If you check out my thread on homosexuality there are very kind heart'd words and it's for the greater good. My recent thread on gun's and China is very informative and it was a shock today to me when I discovered how China cover's up all their mass killings.
I have 2 close mortal friends in this world, in this small town I live in. We hang out all the time and these are the type of things we talk about all the time. I'm not sure if that makes us nerds. My friend is a Libertarian and the other is a liberal. We talk about these subjects for hours on out every time we see each other. It's what I'm filled with,
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: Literally the only thing the free market is interested in is profits. Thinking that they'll pick up social work is some sort of libertarians delusion 
Exactly, that's also why bill and Melinda gates have decided to give half their fortune to govt so it can be doled out for the "good of society"
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They did that for tax reasons, bruh. Some amount does get given to charity, but when billionaires 'pledge' vast portions of their fortune, 9 times out of ten it's to cheat taxes and help cronies.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Supachopped719]
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Supachopped719 said: They did that for tax reasons, bruh. Some amount does get given to charity, but when billionaires 'pledge' vast portions of their fortune, 9 times out of ten it's to cheat taxes and help cronies.
Wrong, they still don't get to keep that money, they just don't have to pay tax on it. The real reason they give it to charity rather than govt is because they know charity won't waste the majority of it and govt will.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: Yes I'm aware of what things were like in the 1890s...
Unrestrained industrial scale businesses and monopolistic control over sources of income, housing, and food do not a healthy society make.
Thank god for Teddy Roosevelt. Bringing the tyranny of workers rights 
"Roosevelt emerged spectacularly as a "trust buster" by forcing the dissolution of a great railroad combination in the Northwest. Other antitrust suits under the Sherman Act followed."
"Roosevelt thought it was particularly important for the government to supervise the workings of the railway to avoid corruption in interstate commerce related to the shipment of coal and other commodities and goods. The result was enactment of the Hepburn Act in 1906, that established Federal control over railroad rates.[104]"
Great guy.. controlling the free market. Allowing government to stick their noses into things. I'm not the most knowledgeable on old teddy so please quote me otherwise if he was not about controlling the free market.
Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money.[5]
In 1906, with the election of President Theodore Roosevelt, and later his successor William Howard Taft, the United States saw a populist movement for tax reform. This movement culminated during then candidate Woodrow Wilson's election of 1912 and in February 1913, the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
So some time after Teddy was out of office after spending all that cash on those big projects (this statement is not based solely on what I posted above) uncle sam decides he's running low on cash and here comes in the Income Tax. hmmmm...
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Breaking up monopolies is/was an extremely good thing - and most libertarian's that know about economics support the anti-trust laws because the free market doesn't function when there's no competition, and high barriers to entry. That puts companies in a favorable position to focus mostly on sitting on their fat money making machine instead of innovating and competitively pricing.
For better or worse - the whole world has income taxing now, in the realm of good - it's allowed worldwide govt's to fund a military powerful enough to ensure the nations survival - particularly from 1912-1945... as well as facilitating massive infrastructure projects which were the backbone of the US' rapid economic rise. Obviously in the negatives, spending can be frivolous, inefficient, rerouted, corrupt, heavily lobbied by corporate interests... etc.
Though as I see it, it isn't having the taxation/government system that is the problem - technically public pay systems have the potential to be much more efficient for the tasks they seek to cover. Corruption and a political games seem to form the root of the problems with said system. And still - countries that have communal health care systems save significant money. The US spends approx 2x per capita on health care. So it would seem that the potential bureaucratic follies and corruption of government are still preferable to the absurd profiteering in this country.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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For better or worse - the whole world has income taxing now, in the realm of good - it's allowed worldwide govt's to fund a military powerful enough to ensure the nations survival - particularly from 1912-1945... as well as facilitating massive infrastructure projects which were the backbone of the US' rapid economic rise. Obviously in the negatives, spending can be frivolous, inefficient, rerouted, corrupt, heavily lobbied by corporate interests... etc.
Though as I see it, it isn't having the taxation/government system that is the problem - technically public pay systems have the potential to be much more efficient for the tasks they seek to cover. Corruption and a political games seem to form the root of the problems with said system. And still - countries that have communal health care systems save significant money. The US spends approx 2x per capita on health care. So it would seem that the potential bureaucratic follies and corruption of government are still preferable to the absurd profiteering in this country.
To bad it's that way. I would rather have no economic ride than allow a nation (the US) to commit theft towards it's people. As a emergency tax such as during the Civil war or when ever that's one thing. I can't really state how I feel about it because I'm not sure.
With no emergency I see it as just being un American. I think it's bullshit that we are now forced into health care. I hope that changes.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23404298 - 07/02/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What's specifically bullshit imo is being forced into private insurance, I wouldn't have a problem with a system that was similar to Canada's or Germany's.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: What's specifically bullshit imo is being forced into private insurance, I wouldn't have a problem with a system that was similar to Canada's or Germany's.
I can understand how you feel. Since I have the same feeling but in the opposite direction. What nation are you apart of? If it's from other than the U.S. and the nation is set up that way- supposed to be that way your views are completely valid 100%.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23404378 - 07/02/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Taxes aren't the problem, Over taxation is, there is simply no reason for people to be paying upwards of half their income to the govt in some form of taxation
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hostileuniverse said: Taxes aren't the problem, Over taxation is, there is simply no reason for people to be paying upwards of half their income to the govt in some form of taxation
BUT what about the children?!? They have to go to college one day! Surely even tho college a choice they have to go! We have to take the money and use it for young people so when they get old enough they can go to college!
What would we do if they did not get to go on our dime...
Iv'e actually considered making a "hitler" video over this income tax thing. You know... the scene that every one uses to edit in their own sub titles...
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23404451 - 07/02/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So when nearly all the power and money collects to the top (it's almost complete) and is firmly held what's your plan? If the whole world is uneducated, there is no water treatment, no sanitation, zero waste disposal, and all the money and resources are controlled by a tiny elite, you just gonna take off into the woods and sleep on a mattress of money that you kept from the big bad tax man?
Like I said before, you are being robbed. You're just blind to what is actually being taken. Like a sheep worried about the other sheep getting a bigger share of the food, you stampede right into the shearing station. You then feel justified in having more food cause you "earned it". But you still get fleeced in the end. No better than liberals. Worse actually because at least liberals want something more in return. You just want to collect fiat fairy tales.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23404529 - 07/02/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: So when nearly all the power and money collects to the top (it's almost complete) and is firmly held what's your plan? If the whole world is uneducated, there is no water treatment, no sanitation, zero waste disposal, and all the money and resources are controlled by a tiny elite, you just gonna take off into the woods and sleep on a mattress of money that you kept from the big bad tax man?
Like I said before, you are being robbed. You're just blind to what is actually being taken. Like a sheep worried about the other sheep getting your share of the food, you stampede right into the shearing station. No better than liberals. Worse actually because at least liberals want something in return. You just want to collect fiat fairy tales.
Theft is theft. Committing a wrong simply does not make a right. Which post did you reply to?
What money are speaking of? Money that's already mine in the first place? The States have 105 years under it's belt of no income tax. I am not against local educational systems. I am against federal education. College should not be funded by tax dollars. Why would the entire world be uneducated? The world does no revolve around the United States. I speak for/about my nation when it comes to the income tax. There are other options btw.
If for some reason my area of the United States lost water treatment I would leave the city and move to the county where I'm legally allowed to have a well. My buddy has a well, it's the cleanest water I have ever drank. There's plenty of un inhabited land here. People do what they have to do to survive well's have been dug threw out human history- all the way to biblical times.
What do you mean sanitation? In older times they had out houses. They would dig a hole in the ground so you could use your bath room there. But United states did not cease to exist. Although that is terrible. If you mean food wise- lack of regulation of food, China is a pretty good example of that, they don't give two shit's if your food is contaminated it's pretty terrible but the nation is still alive. I'm not saying that's a good thing. If you were just also meaning waste management (trash disposal) why would there ever be none? If Government ditched it which I'm not implying they would but also I'm not sure if any income tax dollars go to this area of life (I don't believe it does) so I don't see why it would be of a concern but if they did ditch it, it would be a big opening for the free market, it would more than likely take over since there would be plenty of money to be made.
Since this hypothetical situation was made up(maybe i'm lost's in posts, I don't recall which this was a reply to), let's say it actually happen. Freedom, pure clean freedom allowed it to happen. The elite have it all.
Then the rest of us die and become dry bones. I guess that's tough luck there and the way the cookie crumbles. This free society is not mean to be perfect. A free society is not a perfect society. It's a total messed up place when viewed by people from the outside but those are consequences of freedom.
Thank you for the scenario tho I enjoyed it .
Also I see the little blue numbers, does that indicate the post you replied to? I went threw the page and did not see it.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23404536 - 07/02/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude you are hilarious. You sound like a temporarily embarrassed billionaire if I ever heard one. Good luck, I wish you well on you quest to hold on to what's yours. . .whatever that is.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23404549 - 07/02/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you. I wish the fact's said I was a billionaire! I understand what you are implying tho (the moving). I would really tho move into my friends house. He's a nice guy.
My whole thing is I just want what's mine (my entire pay check- the rights to the fruit of my own labor). haha that's it.
Thank you tho it was fun talking to you.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23405203 - 07/02/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can post walls of meaningless text all you want... Your still wrong. You dont actually provide any arguments. "theft" is not an argument. Why do you use your guns and overthrown your government? Isnt that why you have them... but of course that would never ever happen in real life would it....
Having no income tax in the 21st just doesnt work. you can fantasise all you want but you live in a fantasy world where everything is special for you and works no matter what. "theft" ahah your so fucking selfish is hilarious. How can you actually call yourself a sky fairy worshiper Thats all about kindness and charity. Yet all you do is whinge about how shit doesnt go your way and that you should get more money and other people should get less.
If you so fucking against income tax... you should stop using all the things income tax provides... so basically stop driving, stop using any government services, you cant use any sort of business, basically everything in existence is out of reach, youll need to stop living in your home, stop going to your job. All these things are provided by income tax in one way or another. Youll need to be a hermit in the woods if you truly want to be true to yourself.
But of course you wont, because your so selfish and everything is about you.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: kakashi68]
#23405505 - 07/02/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: You can post walls of meaningless text all you want... Your still wrong. You don't actually provide any arguments. "theft" is not an argument. Why do you use your guns and overthrown your government? Isn't that why you have them... but of course that would never ever happen in real life would it....
Having no income tax in the 21st just doesn't work. you can fantasize all you want but you live in a fantasy world where everything is special for you and works no matter what. "theft" ahah your so fucking selfish is hilarious. How can you actually call yourself a sky fairy worshiper That's all about kindness and charity. Yet all you do is whinge about how shit doesn't go your way and that you should get more money and other people should get less.
If you so fucking against income tax... you should stop using all the things income tax provides... so basically stop driving, stop using any government services, you cant use any sort of business, basically everything in existence is out of reach, you'll need to stop living in your home, stop going to your job. All these things are provided by income tax in one way or another. You'll need to be a hermit in the woods if you truly want to be true to yourself.
But of course you wont, because your so selfish and everything is about you.
Hi Kakashi and thank you for your response. We value your membership here at the shroomery and we - the community - like to let you know that as much as possible. Your basic understanding of American culture and society still seem's to be skewed which implies you are failing to comprehend the situation at hand. You are in Australia. Your entire life is and probably has been based around a income tax. From the way you sound it must provide your food, job, water, health transport's and illegal drugs. Most people on welfare here in the States also buy illegal narcotic's so no on here is hating on you for using tax dollar's to get high it's understandable that you do it, I mean every one else is living it up in Aussie land with the tax dollar's why shouldn't you get to have your fun right!
This is a great nation kakashi. Me like many people love this nation. We seek out other options to replace the income tax such as the "fair" tax. It has been a very popular subject during this year's debate I'm not the only one who has been thinking of this hot topic. Your concern seem's to be around getting the money from a income tax which is indeed theft. I'm not sure why some one as intelligible as you would not see the other possibility's!
You may have to sit back and smoke a joint that you bought with welfare money and ask your self "Why do I want the money coming of their checks? Why do I want to take their money that they worked for when there are other options such as the fair tax?"
You may come to realize that you just do not like me. You may have a personal grudge against me. Kakashi if you do I highly encourage you to forgive me. It's really silly for anyone to hold a grudge towards anyone simply over a dispute on a online drug forum.
Once you are seeing threw the light clearly you should ask your self another question "Do I still want to hurt those American's because their different? Am I still a bigot?". Kakashi are you considering the other options?
I will post videos for you of the fair tax. As I said before it has been a hot topic this election year until Donald Trump completely took over.
First let's get you a clear understanding of the 16th amendment, check it out:
The income tax is a direct result of socialism.
Now let's look at the other options:
hmmm..? See now? Do you understand that there are other options than the income tax? Do you understand that in the USA this has been a huge subject this year and not every one is in support of the income tax? Please answer these questions. Seriously.
I'm not in favor of the flat tax (It's still theft) but it's still a better option than what we have now!
By the way I'm not a big fan of fox news. They brainwash the public just like every other station...
Kakashi all I'm saying is stop the income tax. If the other things must continue such as welfare and paying for college so be it. It really does have to continue, similar towards how you can't just yank a heavy alcoholic off of a alcohol addiction you cannot just yank people off of welfare they will die in the street's from all the violent gun crimes. Seriously take a look at Chicago. It's a gun free zone and people die from gun's there every single day. Tragic. The only viable solution is to slowly ween them off it. However I'm not here to advocate towards you the ending of welfare or social services.
I'm expressing the need to stop the theft of million's of American's by removing of the income tax and replacing it with another system.
Theft is wrong. Stop the theft. Stop the income tax.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: kakashi68]
#23405529 - 07/02/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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To clarify more Kakashi let's look at the definition of the word "Steal" or "Stealing"
When the government collects the income tax it is stealing
Steal:
intransitive verb
1 : to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice
2 : to come or go secretly, unobtrusively, gradually, or unexpectedly
3 : to steal or attempt to steal a base
transitive verb
1 a : to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully <stole a car>
b : to take away by force or unjust means <they've stolen our liberty>
c : to take surreptitiously or without permission <steal a kiss>
d : to appropriate to oneself or beyond one's proper share : make oneself the focus of <steal the show>
2 a : to move, convey, or introduce secretly : smuggle b : to accomplish in a concealed or unobserved manner <steal a visit>
3 a : to seize, gain, or win by trickery, skill, or daring <a basketball player adept at stealing the ball> <stole the election>
b of a base runner : to reach (a base) safely solely by running and usually catching the opposing team off guard
This is from Merriam Webster. A very reputable dictionary..
You have no idea what it mean's to have the right's to the fruit of your own labor do you...
Can you tell me if you at-least know what that means? Theoretically.. can you give me that at-least? Do you comprehend what that means... ?
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23405614 - 07/02/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thats your big plan.... really... wow... ok.
Yea see the big problem with that is that its once again horribly unbalanced to poor people. Someone on 20k would spend a large amount of purchuses and pay way more tax than say someone on 200k who would pay alot less.
This is not how it works. Your just selfish. The government isnt stealing from you. YOU agreed to work knowing that you would be taxed. If you dont want to be taxed dont work... simple as that. Same as anything, just because you dont like it doesnt make it stealing. Plenty of things you need to agree to in life that you dont get a say in. Thats just how the world works. In this case your just selfish.
Your the one who is brainwashed. You think your this educated free thinker... your just brainwashed like every other murican. Only ever thinking about themselves, never anyone else, never any other culture or country. Every other country in the world loves socialism. Your just brainwashed into thinking its bad.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: kakashi68]
#23405640 - 07/02/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: Thats your big plan.... really... wow... ok.
Yea see the big problem with that is that its once again horribly unbalanced to poor people. Someone on 20k would spend a large amount of purchuses and pay way more tax than say someone on 200k who would pay alot less.
This is not how it works. Your just selfish. The government isnt stealing from you. YOU agreed to work knowing that you would be taxed. If you dont want to be taxed dont work... simple as that. Same as anything, just because you dont like it doesnt make it stealing. Plenty of things you need to agree to in life that you dont get a say in. Thats just how the world works. In this case your just selfish.
Nope. Fair tax would mean every one has to pay tax, even drug dealers. If they make money off their drugs and they spend that money they have to pay tax on it every time they buy something which goes to people like you in my country for welfare.
Really? Rich people spend WAYYYYYY more money than poor people. With the money they spend they would end up paying way more in tax's than the poor. You should read up some before opening your mouth about it.
If you are referencing to the flat tax then of course but I'm not sure why you would attack that issue as of seeing how I favor the fair tax. I'm sure a great member of the intelligible Aussie land would not do that.
I agreed to work for the company. The government stuck their hand's in my business.
If some one pay's me $20 bucks to mow their lawn and big brother is watching I can't help that. Big brother says "I'm older and I'm also a bully, if you don't pay up to me I'm going to whoop your ass" what do you think your going to do? Take a ass whoopen?
In reality you go to jail or prison. Don't be so naive.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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kakashi68 said: Thats your big plan.... really... wow... ok.
Yea see the big problem with that is that its once again horribly unbalanced to poor people. Someone on 20k would spend a large amount of purchuses and pay way more tax than say someone on 200k who would pay alot less.
This is not how it works. Your just selfish. The government isnt stealing from you. YOU agreed to work knowing that you would be taxed. If you dont want to be taxed dont work... simple as that. Same as anything, just because you dont like it doesnt make it stealing. Plenty of things you need to agree to in life that you dont get a say in. Thats just how the world works. In this case your just selfish.
Nope. Fair tax would mean every one has to pay tax, even drug dealers. If they make money off their drugs and they spend that money they have to pay tax on it every time they buy something which goes to people like you in my country for welfare.
Really? Rich people spend WAYYYYYY more money than poor people. With the money they spend they would end up paying way more in tax's than the poor. You should read up some before opening your mouth about it.
If you are referencing to the flat tax then of course but I'm not sure why you would attack that issue as of seeing how I favor the fair tax. I'm sure a great member of the intelligible Aussie land would not do that.
I agreed to work for the company. The government stuck their hand's in my business.
If some one pay's me $20 bucks to mow their lawn and big brother is watching I can't help that. Big brother says "I'm older and I'm also a bully, if you don't pay up to me I'm going to whoop your ass" what do you think your going to do? Take a ass whoopen?
In reality you go to jail or prison. Don't be so naive.
Edit: BTW I live below the poverty line. I don't think you have a right to call me selfish you little bitch.
Rich people become rich by NOT spending money. They invest, keep in offshore accounts and save it. Your just wrong... accept it. Someone earning very little money needs to spend basically all of it just to survive. However with income tax in Australia under 20k you pay ZERO tax. while people with lots of money 45%... it just works better. Its a fact. This isnt an argument... your just wrong.
And you are selfish... doesnt matter how much money you have. Your selfish read your own bloody text.
And no, once again. YOU AGREED TO WORK FOR THE COMPANY knowing full well that the government was going to take income tax. That is your decision, you cant blame anyone else.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: kakashi68]
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kakashi68 said: Thats your big plan.... really... wow... ok.
Yea see the big problem with that is that its once again horribly unbalanced to poor people. Someone on 20k would spend a large amount of purchuses and pay way more tax than say someone on 200k who would pay alot less.
This is not how it works. Your just selfish. The government isnt stealing from you. YOU agreed to work knowing that you would be taxed. If you dont want to be taxed dont work... simple as that. Same as anything, just because you dont like it doesnt make it stealing. Plenty of things you need to agree to in life that you dont get a say in. Thats just how the world works. In this case your just selfish.
Nope. Fair tax would mean every one has to pay tax, even drug dealers. If they make money off their drugs and they spend that money they have to pay tax on it every time they buy something which goes to people like you in my country for welfare.
Really? Rich people spend WAYYYYYY more money than poor people. With the money they spend they would end up paying way more in tax's than the poor. You should read up some before opening your mouth about it.
If you are referencing to the flat tax then of course but I'm not sure why you would attack that issue as of seeing how I favor the fair tax. I'm sure a great member of the intelligible Aussie land would not do that.
I agreed to work for the company. The government stuck their hand's in my business.
If some one pay's me $20 bucks to mow their lawn and big brother is watching I can't help that. Big brother says "I'm older and I'm also a bully, if you don't pay up to me I'm going to whoop your ass" what do you think your going to do? Take a ass whoopen?
In reality you go to jail or prison. Don't be so naive.
Edit: BTW I live below the poverty line. I don't think you have a right to call me selfish you little bitch.
Rich people become rich by NOT spending money. They invest, keep in offshore accounts and save it. Your just wrong... accept it. Someone earning very little money needs to spend basically all of it just to survive. However with income tax in Australia under 20k you pay ZERO tax. while people with lots of money 45%... it just works better. Its a fact. This isnt an argument... your just wrong.
And you are selfish... doesnt matter how much money you have. Your selfish read your own bloody text.
And no, once again. YOU AGREED TO WORK FOR THE COMPANY knowing full well that the government was going to take income tax. That is your decision, you cant blame anyone else.
Nope. You were wrong about the Fair tax. Admit to it. You did not even watch the video or read up on it did you?
Incorrect. Why would they make Lamborghini's or high class vehicles if rich people did not spend money on them?
How are people driving around in mustangs and dodge chargers if rich people don't spend money. Do you understand how much a new vehicle like that costs, let alone how much money the insurance on it is?
YOUR FULL OF SHIT.
Look at how much money the wealthiest people in America spend. Bill Gates is not the wealthiest but do you think he gives a shit how much money he blows? Have you ever seen a tour of his home and the technology he has in it?
He has to SPEND money on all of those things.
Don't even pull that bullshit that rich people don't spend money. You sir are talking about the lower middle of the middle class or lower middle class people. Not Rich people.
You are also incorrect. My statement about work still stands. Some one can pay me money and not inform me that they are going to take tax's took out of it.
I have a family member who used to baby sit.. it was you do this.. you get this cash. Later on she found out tax's were involved, the parent of the child said nothing about it. She had to pay up later.
You currently do not know what type of work I do or which company I work for and if I was informed or not that tax's were going to be took out of my money when I started.
You probably don't even know the legal law here if they have to inform you of it or not.
The entire majority of the shroomery see's you as a cock sucker because we are mostly American's. You insulted America greatly and the entire forum can still read it. You can't delete it, it's already been posted. You don't even think of the community you are apart of. Don't call me selfish when you only think of your self.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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There are alot more average and poor people buying everyday things than there are rich people making one off purchases.
Rich people dont spend all there money... Your obviously poor because you have no idea how to actually acquire any serious amount of money
Using personal statements means nothing. Facts show your wrong.
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I've only seen a few of your posts, but have you ever in your life said something that wasn't completely fucking retarded?
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Re: Why don't we have a [Re: kakashi68]
#23405786 - 07/03/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope. You were wrong about the Fair tax. Admit to it. You did not even watch the video or read up on it did you?
The entire majority of the shroomery see's you as a cock sucker because we are mostly American's. You insulted America greatly and the entire forum can still read it. You can't delete it, it's already been posted. You don't even think of the community you are apart of. Don't call me selfish when you only think of your self.
You still lack understanding of this country. I was born into these circumstances and work with what I have. It's called tough luck. If I want better I look (and am) for better such as a more well paying job. Harder the work, more the pay. We don't have every thing given to us like you Aussies we are not spoiled little children that's why our Government does not baby us they treat us like grown adults.
If you want I can pull up statistics of how many millionaires there are here and how much money they spend yearly to maintain their car's yachts and airplanes.
They obviously spend money. Look at pop culture alone. Do you know how much money musicians make a year such as famous rap & rock stars? Obviously you have not been paying attention to those gold watches they have on. They change em out all the time.
kakashi68 said: However with income tax in Australia under 20k you pay ZERO tax. while people with lots of money 45%... it just works better. Its a fact
OH MY. Looky there. Look who's not complaining because he ACTUALLY DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY A INCOME TAX. Dude you are such a hypocrite.
Everything else I hear from you just sounds like jealousy. If you so obsessed with how things go on here why don't you just move and become a American. Bigot.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: PassiveMenis]
#23405805 - 07/03/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's just like how he creep's on girls when delivering pizza's. What a weirdo. This is relevant to culture. Is he just a weirdo or is the culture weird?
It's like he can't understand for example what the fair tax is. It's not complicated. It's the same thing as the income tax but it does not come right out of your paycheck but gives you the freedom to save if you choose to only pay bills. The ignorance is insane.
Because he happens to be from Australia he can't look at any other country that happen's to be different and get a understanding for things. It's pathetic. Such a bigot
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: kakashi68] 2
#23405809 - 07/03/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: Every other country in the world loves socialism. Your just brainwashed into thinking its bad.
Really? Do the people of Venezuela and Greece love it?
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I heard north korea loves it too.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#23406528 - 07/03/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: This has devolved into a turd tossing match with little to no substance. So it seems it has achieved it's mission and more.
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