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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: qman]
    #23398072 - 06/30/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.




The progressives wanted to take that human charity out of the system, they wanted the charity to be nameless from government and guaranteed regardless of who was on the receiving end of that benefit.

So what do we see today?  The US and EU are now supporting third world people that have invaded their own nations!  It's a system that going to destroy itself because it's neither rational or functional over the long term.




It will definitely destroy it's self. I agree.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398075 - 06/30/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.

At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.



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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.




Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!



I literally have churches nearby that collectively give dinner away every night of the week.  They all have little pamphlets telling you where to go each night, too.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: TheMovement]
    #23398088 - 06/30/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.

At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.



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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.




Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!



I literally have churches nearby that collectively give dinner away every night of the week.  They all have little pamphlets telling you where to go each night, too.




Nothing wrong with that but tell it to the 46 million Americans on food stamps.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23398099 - 06/30/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You should tell them to go there.  Or to learn to fucking cook.

I can cook nutritional food for the day on about 5 bucks.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: TheMovement]
    #23398103 - 06/30/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I mean.. I'm not in support of them. Their the ones that need to learn to fucking cook not me, I don't use food stamps.

I'm not on welfare I work for a living.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 1
    #23398127 - 06/30/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!




I kind of just assumed that you were.. but are you American?

Lot's of people care because the money comes out of our paychecks. It's our money! That they take by theft.

It's very annoying because also in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.

Then came tax reform...

Their stealing time. Let's say you work 3 day's a certain week at $11.50 a hour. That's not great money but most young people appreciate that type of pay. You work a very little 5-6 hours a day at the most. The government takes a whole day away from you after tax's. Now the young guy has lost a bunch of money and can't save good for other things because he has to pay for other people to go to collage. Instead he could of been saving money for him self to go to college. Young people mine as well get a second job or find full time some where with the same pay rate. Even tho he or she should not have to. He or she should not have to work more to make up for uncle sam's theft. The more you make the more they take to.. it's bull.

Let's say you get paid $20 bucks a hour. Think about the time they are stealing from you.

It's time they are stealing. Your money you make is time. They take time away from you. You don't get to choose what to do with your time. I imagine this encourages people to find job's where they get paid under the table.

Why do we care about welfare money? Because it OUR money.




Yes I'm American and if you don't like paying income tax move to a country where you don't have to pay. Instead of bitching on the Shroomery about it why don't you do something about it? Do us all a favor and whine somewhere else, please


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 1
    #23398134 - 06/30/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I mean.. I'm not in support of them. Their the ones that need to learn to fucking cook not me, I don't use food stamps.

I'm not on welfare I work for a living.




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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398143 - 06/30/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You are the one who replied to me in my thread. You also were the one who objected my SINGLE post about it. You are the one who did not like what I had to say about it.

I responded to YOUR messages. I simply explained my self to you and why I have the views I do.

it's called a argument.

So why don't you go wine some where else to other people who you do not agree with.. pshhh your the one who did not like my views and had to pitch in.

Edit:Don't take it the wrong way. I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398146 - 06/30/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I mean.. I'm not in support of them. Their the ones that need to learn to fucking cook not me, I don't use food stamps.

I'm not on welfare I work for a living.




What do want a gold star? A patch that says 'I'm special' it's called being a grown up, welcome to the real world




I'm glad you just admitted that welfare is childish. Gold star to you to! Were getting some where with you!


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23398157 - 06/30/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398172 - 06/30/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You're special




:grin: Aren't we all? :loldongs:


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 1
    #23398196 - 06/30/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some sure do think they are


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398198 - 06/30/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

bahahahaha. You got me good on that one man. I have nothing to say back to that one!

Good post, good post! :thumbup:


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 3
    #23398477 - 06/30/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Okay so lemme get this straight. The OP is mad because he works hard and his work is undervalued. So when asked to take from his earnings to pay taxes, he is angry. Now instead of being angry at the people who have gamed the system to pay him a low wage and devalue his work, or be angry at the massively bloated government which thinks nothing of blowing a trillion bucks on a jet that can't fly, he is mad at poor people. Because they need food stamps. Otherwise they starve.

Yep its definitely the liberals who are retarded.

We need taxes. As long as the system is based on fiat debt backed currency we will need taxation. Because the alternative is not good. Because while you are sleeping on a mattress of cash that you saved from the hands of the greedy government, I'm gonna sneak into your house and slit your throat. Then I'm gonna take that shit and there won't be no one to stop me.

Tax is the price we pay to have a semblance of order. Maintaining order is a thin line. Most people consider themselves civilized decent creatures. But, I believe that in three days I could get a person to tear into your chest and drink the blood right from your heart. It's not really difficult to do. Order is a thin line.

The solution is basically for you to find a place where there is no tax. I doubt you ever will. I guarantee you however, that 50 million people on food stamps is not where most of your tax money goes. So perhaps you should look a little closer at that. I am proud to drive on roads that my taxes helped pay for. Happy that even tho I dont have children, I can contribute something to them being somewhat educated and not grow up to be complete morons. I don't like the fact that large corporations get billions of dollars in tax bailout money, then turn around and pay themselves large bonuses. I don't like that Walmart can pay starvation wages to its people, who in turn need to be feed and sheltered by the government. Meanwhile Walmart is raking in billions because YOU are paying to keep its employees from breaking into your house out of sheer desperation.

But the thing I would like most would be if there was no fiat currency holding us all back. No abstract notion of class dividing us. For people to do things because they wanted to do them well. For people to work because they didn't want to sit idle. For those unable to work or contribute due to whatever reasons, to be able to live in relative dignity. For people with an illness to not face the choice of going bankrupt or dying.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23399029 - 06/30/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23399619 - 07/01/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Okay so lemme get this straight. The OP is mad because he works hard and his work is undervalued. So when asked to take from his earnings to pay taxes, he is angry. Now instead of being angry at the people who have gamed the system to pay him a low wage and devalue his work, or be angry at the massively bloated government which thinks nothing of blowing a trillion bucks on a jet that can't fly, he is mad at poor people. Because they need food stamps. Otherwise they starve.

Yep its definitely the liberals who are retarded.

We need taxes. As long as the system is based on fiat debt backed currency we will need taxation. Because the alternative is not good. Because while you are sleeping on a mattress of cash that you saved from the hands of the greedy government, I'm gonna sneak into your house and slit your throat. Then I'm gonna take that shit and there won't be no one to stop me.

Tax is the price we pay to have a semblance of order. Maintaining order is a thin line. Most people consider themselves civilized decent creatures. But, I believe that in three days I could get a person to tear into your chest and drink the blood right from your heart. It's not really difficult to do. Order is a thin line.

The solution is basically for you to find a place where there is no tax. I doubt you ever will. I guarantee you however, that 50 million people on food stamps is not where most of your tax money goes. So perhaps you should look a little closer at that. I am proud to drive on roads that my taxes helped pay for. Happy that even tho I dont have children, I can contribute something to them being somewhat educated and not grow up to be complete morons. I don't like the fact that large corporations get billions of dollars in tax bailout money, then turn around and pay themselves large bonuses. I don't like that Walmart can pay starvation wages to its people, who in turn need to be feed and sheltered by the government. Meanwhile Walmart is raking in billions because YOU are paying to keep its employees from breaking into your house out of sheer desperation.

But the thing I would like most would be if there was no fiat currency holding us all back. No abstract notion of class dividing us. For people to do things because they wanted to do them well. For people to work because they didn't want to sit idle. For those unable to work or contribute due to whatever reasons, to be able to live in relative dignity. For people with an illness to not face the choice of going bankrupt or dying.




My place of employment does not under value me. I'm not sure if you meant it that way or not.

Also just so you know -

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Obviously taxes are just fine.





This is referring to trade and property taxation.

To bring you up to speed, this is what we are talking about -

"The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862:"


"Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money."

"In 1906, with the election of President Theodore Roosevelt, and later his successor William Howard Taft, the United States saw a populist movement for tax reform. This movement culminated during then candidate Woodrow Wilson's election of 1912 and in February 1913, the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.""

The subject is strictly income tax coupled with the idea of how it is the income tax payers money and how uncle sam get's to spend the money on what he want's instead of the individual who's money it is and was.

This is not about trade and property taxation.

I'm not sure why you would post other wise other than having not read threw the other posts. It's understandable tho, it's a lot to read threw.


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Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!





MY MONEY. Not your money. For example, not for you or anyone to go to college. Going to college is a choice. No one makes a person with freewill attend college. My money should not be took out of MY pay check to pay to support your ass or for any other reason. Key word here is "my". What is mine is mine. What is yours is yours. Where do you or any one else get their filthy hands in on it? IT's my shit motherfuckers. Just because bad shit might happen as a result of preventing theft is not my fucking problem. It's this simple people. Theft is wrong. It's a tough world. It's tragic. It's sad. It's terrible. People die every fucking day. Just because you might be able to prevent death or support some ones ass to go to college by committing theft does not make it okay. When the hell did doing something wrong make a right? This is not Robbing hood. I'm not rich by all mean's but it's the same idea. Yea look real noble "standing up" for the poor. What in the fuck is wrong with you people, why would you support theft.

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Do not get me wrong. I do not see it possible to just break off the current system. For example, people are so addicted to welfare that if you just yanked it away they would go homeless and not know how to adapt.

At the same time tho I think maybe that's what they need. Maybe that's the right thing to do but can you blame those people for doing what the Government has provide? Is that their fault? Should be not blame liberals or people in government and people who supported it to start with?





Oh really? I hate poor people? Can you quote me on that? I challenge you.

What I hate is how Government steals my money. I also do not like the people who are in support of it. I do not dislike them on a personal level, you can re read my old post's I clearly state I'm good friends with a person who loves welfare.


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They fucked up! They got hooked on the income tax! If Lincoln never was killed I guarante you all this socialistic bullshit would of been put to an end after the war! But you know.. that's just my opion maan.

The founding fathers believed in "trade and property taxation".






I'm not sure how you cannot see my anger or dis approval towards government.

So just to clarify, obviously I'm not seeking to live some where with no tax's. Cut the emotional gig. I know it looks and feel's good to be the "Stand up man". There's a bunch of emotion involved. I can see it.

So I suppose that would make your argument about being murdered invalid right?

Regardless if we ever did enter into a state of chaos you would be fighting a battle with angels your going to lose.

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I have more weapons than this.:grin:

I daily carry a FNX 9.

I'm not sure what the "Liberal" thing to do would be if we were in a state of chaos but I can tell you that if it ever happens, there certainly is strength in numbers. I'm not the only one who own's these things, I would certainly be apart of a pretty big militia with the people I already happen to know.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: berrymybody]
    #23399640 - 07/01/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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why does this have so many pages? so gay




Your profile picture is a banana dude.. cough...gay...cough


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23399643 - 07/01/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just fucking leave if you're so unhappy.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23399654 - 07/01/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Aww hell yeah.

Pub militia, i'm in!  :minigun:                                 

Somebody start a new thread.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23399655 - 07/01/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just fucking leave if you're so unhappy.




Leave where? The shroomery or the States? I love this great nation. What other nation has a constitution like ours? We are free to live man!

Great emotion, great emotion. I get enjoyment out of how strongly you keep repetitively implying emotion and how you keep implying that I'm emotional. I'm just fine. Really, you do not have to worry about me.

I had a great night. I visited a friends house and chilled. I had the day off. I work tomorrow but not till later on.

There is no misery here with me. Thank you tho. Please remember text can be misleading when read and not heard when spoken.


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