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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23397574 - 06/30/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything.
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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23397586 - 06/30/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty much. . . It's all bait and switch. People have the most insane priorities these days.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23397608 - 06/30/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

AFAIK, ALL you own in this life are your actions. Your thoughts, the people around you, the world, the rules of the universe (whatever they are) - they own you.

We got a single medium to work with here.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23397640 - 06/30/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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My bad man my bad. I know it was not a nice topic. I was drinking gnome mean mane. I don't drink and drive tho.

I have nothing personally against libtards as people but as libtards. Matter of fact I have a good friend who is a libtard. He has been around me for the past 2 and half years. He's okay with guns laying around the house and even has shot one before. Although he is against them. He loves welfare. He loves paid for collage out of our taxes. We have different views but we are still friends!

Yes I call him a libtard to his face. And yes he call's me a nut case for beveling it's okay to carry a gun. We do have a middle ground tho, we both believe in legalizing drugs for the greater good.

Anyway's ramble ramble... why should my personal money have to pay for some fucker to go to college? College is a fucking choice. Fuck government sponsored College/university education and fuck welfare. Assisted living to where people pay rent accordingly towards how much money they make.. fuck that. I mean don't get me wrong.. it would still be wrong and suck but it would not bother me as much if the money did not come out of my fucking pay check. My fucking money, my time their stealing. So yes FUCK welfare.

You pay me $20 bucks to cut your front yard. Fair deal. Where does uncle sam get involved.

It's thievery, straight thievery when they take money out of your paycheck.

Pay uncle sam for retirement? HAHA. That's so ridiculous I don't need big brother to save my money for me, I set money aside for my own retirement.

Honestly libtards would not bother me if they did not take my money or affect my life or have a say in anything. They could hold all of their socialist views and be marry. This country is not SOCIALISTIC, stop trying to bring socialism here libtards. I might still say what their doing is wrong and not agree with it but it would not bother me if they did not change society.

These people bother the shit out of me tho because they take my money. Fuck you people who think it's okay to steal my cash, so yes I'm okay with making this thread actually. Fuck you money thieving bastard libtards. 

BTW these views only go for the USA. I don't care if other nations are full liberal. I don't mind if that's how their government is set up, they are probably done/ set up that way rightly so and justified. BUT over here in the USA it's unacceptable and FUCK you people that think otherwise. It's NOT JUST here and it's not right. Period.

Am I selfish? Yes. Do I have a right to be selfish? Yes. Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!


That's called bullshit. I call bullshit.




You should check out what the constitution has to say about tax collection and how it's spent.

The Taxing and Spending Clause[1] (which contains provisions known as the General Welfare Clause[2] and the Uniformity Clause[3]), Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, grants the federal government of the United States its power of taxation. While authorizing Congress to levy taxes, this clause permits the levying of taxes for two purposes only: to pay the debts of the United States, and to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. Taken together, these purposes have traditionally been held to imply and to constitute the federal government's taxing and spending power.[4]

So sorry to hear you don't want to pay taxes, tell it to the Founders.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397667 - 06/30/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
My bad man my bad. I know it was not a nice topic. I was drinking gnome mean mane. I don't drink and drive tho.

I have nothing personally against libtards as people but as libtards. Matter of fact I have a good friend who is a libtard. He has been around me for the past 2 and half years. He's okay with guns laying around the house and even has shot one before. Although he is against them. He loves welfare. He loves paid for collage out of our taxes. We have different views but we are still friends!

Yes I call him a libtard to his face. And yes he call's me a nut case for beveling it's okay to carry a gun. We do have a middle ground tho, we both believe in legalizing drugs for the greater good.

Anyway's ramble ramble... why should my personal money have to pay for some fucker to go to college? College is a fucking choice. Fuck government sponsored College/university education and fuck welfare. Assisted living to where people pay rent accordingly towards how much money they make.. fuck that. I mean don't get me wrong.. it would still be wrong and suck but it would not bother me as much if the money did not come out of my fucking pay check. My fucking money, my time their stealing. So yes FUCK welfare.

You pay me $20 bucks to cut your front yard. Fair deal. Where does uncle sam get involved.

It's thievery, straight thievery when they take money out of your paycheck.

Pay uncle sam for retirement? HAHA. That's so ridiculous I don't need big brother to save my money for me, I set money aside for my own retirement.

Honestly libtards would not bother me if they did not take my money or affect my life or have a say in anything. They could hold all of their socialist views and be marry. This country is not SOCIALISTIC, stop trying to bring socialism here libtards. I might still say what their doing is wrong and not agree with it but it would not bother me if they did not change society.

These people bother the shit out of me tho because they take my money. Fuck you people who think it's okay to steal my cash, so yes I'm okay with making this thread actually. Fuck you money thieving bastard libtards. 

BTW these views only go for the USA. I don't care if other nations are full liberal. I don't mind if that's how their government is set up, they are probably done/ set up that way rightly so and justified. BUT over here in the USA it's unacceptable and FUCK you people that think otherwise. It's NOT JUST here and it's not right. Period.

Am I selfish? Yes. Do I have a right to be selfish? Yes. Do I have the rights to the fruit's of my own labor? YES IM SUPPOSED TO BUT I DON'T!!!


That's called bullshit. I call bullshit.




You should check out what the constitution has to say about tax collection and how it's spent.

The Taxing and Spending Clause[1] (which contains provisions known as the General Welfare Clause[2] and the Uniformity Clause[3]), Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, grants the federal government of the United States its power of taxation. While authorizing Congress to levy taxes, this clause permits the levying of taxes for two purposes only: to pay the debts of the United States, and to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. Taken together, these purposes have traditionally been held to imply and to constitute the federal government's taxing and spending power.[4]

So sorry to hear you don't want to pay taxes, tell it to the Founders.




Obviously taxes are just fine. However about you research the Income tax some huh?

The founding fathers DID not add that tax. They believed in having the rights to the fruit of your own labor.

"The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862:"

Emergency sir! Emergency!

"Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money."

They fucked up! They got hooked on the income tax! If Lincoln never was killed I guarante you all this socialistic bullshit would of been put to an end after the war! But you know.. that's just my opion maan.

The founding fathers believed in "trade and property taxation".

You can not pin the income tax with the founding fathers.

Reason for edit/ give source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23397714 - 06/30/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

And general welfare of the United States, sorry you don't like it


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397720 - 06/30/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"In 1906, with the election of President Theodore Roosevelt, and later his successor William Howard Taft, the United States saw a populist movement for tax reform. This movement culminated during then candidate Woodrow Wilson's election of 1912 and in February 1913, the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

“ The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration. ”"

Do you understand now? Do you understand it's bullshit?


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397732 - 06/30/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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And general welfare of the United States, sorry you don't like it




Matter of fact there have been many candidates this year offering solutions to replace the income tax and abolish the IRS.

Can you tell me when that part of the constitution was added? Was it there from the beginning? You implied it was.

By saying "Sorry the founding fathers.."

THUS when they wrote that they were referring NOT to the income tax but to trade and property taxation

Thus sorry Sir but the United States Welfare is JUST FINE with out the income tax and with trade and property taxation.

If you say other wise you must admit you are incorrect on when the section of the constitution was added and how you said "The founding fathers"- added their involvement.

You are losing this argument.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23397733 - 06/30/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

16th Amendment
Amendment XVI

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

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I don't know what the fuck you're talking about or what point you're trying to make. It reads pretty easy to me?


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397753 - 06/30/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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16th Amendment
Amendment XVI

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Wex Resources

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about or what point you're trying to make. It reads pretty easy to me?





Wow. you obviously have not read the posts. Have you ignored the other posts and not read up on the history of the income tax yet?

Address the issue, don't play dumb

Here, ill refresh you :


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Obviously taxes are just fine. However about you research the Income tax some huh?

The founding fathers DID not add that tax. They believed in having the rights to the fruit of your own labor.

"The Revenue Act of 1862 was passed as an emergency and temporary war-time tax. It copied a relatively new British system of income taxation, instead of trade and property taxation. The first income tax was passed in 1862:"

Emergency sir! Emergency!

"Income taxes evolved, but in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax of 1894 unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.. The federal government scrambled to raise money."

They fucked up! They got hooked on the income tax! If Lincoln never was killed I guarante you all this socialistic bullshit would of been put to an end after the war! But you know.. that's just my opion maan.

The founding fathers believed in "trade and property taxation".

You can not pin the income tax with the founding fathers.

Reason for edit/ give source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service





Quote:

Dr.Wongburger said:
Quote:

Citizen X said:
And general welfare of the United States, sorry you don't like it




Matter of fact there have been many candidates this year offering solutions to replace the income tax and abolish the IRS.

Can you tell me when that part of the constitution was added? Was it there from the beginning? You implied it was.

By saying "Sorry the founding fathers.."

THUS when they wrote that they were referring NOT to the income tax but to trade and property taxation

Thus sorry Sir but the United States Welfare is JUST FINE with out the income tax and with trade and property taxation.

If you say other wise you must admit you are incorrect on when the section of the constitution was added and how you said "The founding fathers"- added their involvement.

You are losing this argument.




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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397767 - 06/30/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also I dont remember every thing that was said earlier. But please for give me for being rude.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23397770 - 06/30/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Who fucking cares?


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397806 - 06/30/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm shocked you did not give me a response. Why avoid the post?

No need to be sore. It's internet talkz.

I care, I like to stay towards practicing good etiquette. Just because another person may attack me or come at me with bad etiquette, does not mean I should back. Every reader of the shroomery can see good or bad behavior and they will get to know you accordingly. It's important.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23397811 - 06/30/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.

At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: qman]
    #23397830 - 06/30/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23397860 - 06/30/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.




The progressives wanted to take that human charity out of the system, they wanted the charity to be nameless from government and guaranteed regardless of who was on the receiving end of that benefit.

So what do we see today?  The US and EU are now supporting third world people that have invaded their own nations!  It's a system that going to destroy itself because it's neither rational or functional over the long term.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23397915 - 06/30/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.

At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.



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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.




Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398021 - 06/30/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!




I kind of just assumed that you were.. but are you American?

Lot's of people care because the money comes out of our paychecks. It's our money! That they take by theft.

It's very annoying because also in 1894 the Supreme Court declared the Income Tax unconstitutional in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.

Then came tax reform...

Their stealing time. Let's say you work 3 day's a certain week at $11.50 a hour. That's not great money but most young people appreciate that type of pay. You work a very little 5-6 hours a day at the most. The government takes a whole day away from you after tax's. Now the young guy has lost a bunch of money and can't save good for other things because he has to pay for other people to go to collage. Instead he could of been saving money for him self to go to college. Young people mine as well get a second job or find full time some where with the same pay rate. Even tho he or she should not have to. He or she should not have to work more to make up for uncle sam's theft. The more you make the more they take to.. it's bull.

Let's say you get paid $20 bucks a hour. Think about the time they are stealing from you.

It's time they are stealing. Your money you make is time. They take time away from you. You don't get to choose what to do with your time. I imagine this encourages people to find job's where they get paid under the table.

Why do we care about welfare money? Because it OUR money.


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Re: Why don't we have a "libtard" smiley? [Re: Citizen X]
    #23398054 - 06/30/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Taxation has and always will come off the backs of the working class, today the costs of social safety nets also come off of their backs.

At least before the social programs started, people when to their Church's for assistance when needed, I think that was a better system in many ways, this giving away of benefits for every person that hops over a fence is complete nonsense.



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That is very true. I have also read and learned that people used to go to Churches and other such organizations to get by. They even had Church funded hospitals. You would pay what you could and anything else would be free.




Wow you guys really have your fingers on the pulse of what goes on with the poor people in America! People still go to churches to get food, I know mind blown!




I'm well aware that churches still have food banks, but other than food, what other social service do churches provide for the poor? 

The government has over 50 million people on food stamps, it also provides public housing, health care and welfare.

Is there a point you're trying to make?  Because government handing out social services IS the pulse of poor American's.


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