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Level5MotherFucker
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Peruvian Torch Disappointment?
#23389127 - 06/27/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I've tried Peruvian torch multiple times (1 ounce doses each time) in many different ways. Eating the powder, drinking the tea, alcohol extraction and every single time all I ever get is VERY mild CEVs. I value what the plant has helped me with, but I'd like more of a visual effect.
Am I getting bunk cactus or do I just need to up the dosage?
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Edited by Level5MotherFucker (06/27/16 09:07 PM)
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up the dosage like 10x
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Re: Peruvian Torch Disappointment? [Re: krishnalove]
#23389782 - 06/28/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm going to assume you were talking about dried cactus material, because if you were taking an ounce of fresh material then at the very most you were ingesting about 14mg of mescaline, which is nowhere near the threshold dose of 100mg.
Dried peruvian torch is highly variable in mescaline content. It contains between 0.01% and 0.82% mescaline, so an ounce contains somewhere between 3mg and 232mg. 232mg is a common dose, so it would seem that the material you have been working with is relatively weak. https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml
Are you working with cuttings, or do you have processed material of some kind?
I definitely wouldn't up my dosage by 10x as that could turn out to be about 2,320mg of mescaline, which is a massive overdose and wouldn't be very pleasant.
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Re: Peruvian Torch Disappointment? [Re: healing]
#23391584 - 06/28/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm using powdered flesh.
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That makes things much easier! Since the material is powdered it has been homogenized, making dosing much more consistent.
You got what sounds like a light experience from 1oz. That means that you took anywhere between 100mg and 200mg of mescaline. We'll err on the side of caution for these further estimations by assuming you took 200mg. Since we know how much you took and approximately how much mescaline was in it, we can estimate a little bit more accurately the potency of your specific material. 1oz=28,350mg; 200mg/28,350mg=x/100; x=0.7; which means that your cactus has about 0.7% mescaline at the most.
Now you can try a higher dosage. A common dose is listed as being between 200mg and 300mg. I'll do the calculation for you this time so that you can learn how to up your dosage next time, in case it turns out that your cactus is actually less potent than we estimated, because we did the highest end estimate possible for the purpose of your safety.
300mg/x=0.7/100; x=42,875mg=42.875g≈1.5oz
since a common dose is between 200mg and 300mg, you should be able to get a common dose by taking something between 1oz and 1.5 oz of your material according to our high end estimations. Because of our methodology this means that you will not be able to get more than a common dose out of 1.5oz, in fact you could very well get less than 300mg out of that 1.5oz, but it's better to take too little than too much.
So now it's up to you, you can take whatever amount you're comfortable with between 1oz, you're typical dose, and 1.5oz and feel confident that you won't get more than a common dose.
If you find your material to be slightly weaker than we estimated here, you can use the same math I did to calculate with even more accuracy how potent your cactus material actually is until you feel confident in your ability to dose the right amount for the effects that you're looking for.
And if you need more help in the future, just make a post here. I'll be notified and I can help you do any further calculations you might need.
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