|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Niciskarma
Stranger

Registered: 06/20/16
Posts: 68
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
Ok for shrooms at 12?
#23388713 - 06/27/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Hey, so my little brother has been taking shrooms... He's 12 years old and he's done them 5 times he's done 4 by him self (including first time) and 1 with a spotter and he's done everything from tea to tek i just want to know is this healthy? If not what are the health risks. Btw after each time he says everything went fine and he felt great but the last 2 times he told me that nothing really happened except euphoria.
|
Epiglottis
Registered: 04/10/12
Posts: 630
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? *DELETED* [Re: Niciskarma]
#23388736 - 06/27/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Post deleted by EpiglottisReason for deletion: .
|
Niciskarma
Stranger

Registered: 06/20/16
Posts: 68
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Epiglottis]
#23388742 - 06/27/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I wasn't looking for someone to say "go skull fuck him" lol I was just wondering if it's bad for his body he's not addicted or anything
|
larry.fisherman
shoulda died already


Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 36,294
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] 4
#23388750 - 06/27/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
No it's not fucking healthy. He's a kid doing drugs during some of his more important years of development. Go be a god damn brother then kick your own ass for asking a stupid question.
Queue the fucking hippies.
|
Niciskarma
Stranger

Registered: 06/20/16
Posts: 68
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
|
I mean he's not in the best environment he could be anyways lmao he's been smoking Mary jane since 10 and he's growing some now. I can't stop him from doing it hell, he doesn't tell me where he gets it
|
Sabnock
Be Your Own Shaman


Registered: 01/02/14
Posts: 3,249
Last seen: 4 hours, 59 minutes
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] 1
#23388768 - 06/27/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Just my two cents... I was put on stimulants and anti-psychotics around the age of ten, then in my teens i was put on anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. I stopped taking all those things back in 2010, and since 2012 i've been using Ayahuasca on and off, and i truly feel like had i not been put on those pharma drugs and could've instead taken Shrooms or Ayahuasca, i would've turned out much better. Plus with Ayahuasca, the DMT in it is natural to the Human body, and isn't anything to worry about health wise. Shrooms, i'm not sure how they would go but i don't imagine a moderate dosage would cause any negative health issues, if done with the right mindset and setting, and setting not being chaotic for the experiencer, the setting needs to be stable and comfortable.
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,149
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 1 minute, 58 seconds
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] 4
#23388770 - 06/27/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
The problem with psychedelics and young people is that they de-integrate your personality. In a grown adult we get to put the pieces back together and learn from the experience, with children they don't have all the pieces yet. They are basically scrambling their psychological building blocks.
It's bad shit for young people man. Psychedelics are not a toy and certainly not for kids.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
Sabnock
Be Your Own Shaman


Registered: 01/02/14
Posts: 3,249
Last seen: 4 hours, 59 minutes
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
#23389490 - 06/27/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Northerner said: The problem with psychedelics and young people is that they de-integrate your personality. In a grown adult we get to put the pieces back together and learn from the experience, with children they don't have all the pieces yet. They are basically scrambling their psychological building blocks.
It's bad shit for young people man. Psychedelics are not a toy and certainly not for kids.
Maybe not all kids, but some, such as myself (i have Aspergers/HFA) and i find it makes for quite the medicine unlike pharmaceuticals, i think the pharmaceuticals did more damage to my younger self than Ayahuasca would've. Ayahuasca is not like other Psychedelics. Yeah i understand how it resets things and you gotta start over, but i feel it can give oneself some guidance if used properly and not recklessly/immaturely (it's gotta be used responsibly and for the right reasons).
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,149
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 1 minute, 58 seconds
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
#23389556 - 06/27/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, pharms and kids are often a royal fuck up. Poorly educated and corporate sponsored doctors coupled with overwhelmed and naive parents. Such a crap combo. I have had doctors try and advise me to medicate my son, I told them straight out no and they refuse to see us anymore. So be it.
Sadly psychs aren't researched well enough yet to treat many conditions, I think you're probably right with a potential medicinal use there. Maybe one day we'll get there.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
trippyfish
Explorer


Registered: 01/26/16
Posts: 256
Loc: California
Last seen: 3 years, 3 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner] 1
#23389621 - 06/27/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I was 17 for my first entheogenic (had tried hallucinogens before but salvia is meaningless compared to the tryptamines and serotonergic psychs) and I think I was too young. The psychedelic experience is something to be taken very seriously and as a young teenager it is really hard to have the familiarity with your own thinking patterns, mannerisms, and the subconscious as a whole to go through the psychedelic experience responsibly and sanely. I'm not saying I hurt myself taking acid in high school, but if my big phase of psychedelic experimentation came when I was most mature it would/could be so much more meaningful.
-------------------- "Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
|
Kinshino
Restful Soul



Registered: 03/11/13
Posts: 1,122
Loc: 5th Dimension
Last seen: 8 months, 5 days
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner] 1
#23389626 - 06/27/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
A 12 year old should not be taking psychedelics dude, Jesus he isn't even a teenager yet like wtf haha. I get that you can't control him but at least talk to him as his big brother on why a little kid his age shouldn't be taking psychedelics I'm starting to think you may be a little young yourself...
--------------------
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
#23390651 - 06/28/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Northerner said: The problem with psychedelics and young people is that they de-integrate your personality. In a grown adult we get to put the pieces back together and learn from the experience, with children they don't have all the pieces yet. They are basically scrambling their psychological building blocks.
It's bad shit for young people man. Psychedelics are not a toy and certainly not for kids.
This. Holy crap....the kid probably hasn't even hit puberty yet.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
Big Worm
Perf


Registered: 04/20/09
Posts: 7,642
Last seen: 3 years, 9 months
|
|
What Sabnock is saying.
Probably microdosing Psilocybin would be better than any SSRI or amphetamine pharms they put kids on who are even younger than 12.
|
Universe
Friend


Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 1,161
Last seen: 1 day, 12 hours
|
|
I started smoking weed at 14 and tripping at 16 and I turned out fine, for the most part.
But - I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. 12 is way too early. Those are the years when you develop skills that you need in order to live a functional life. Those are the years when you can become insanely good at things in a way that will never come again. Anything that gets in the way is bad. All humans are best off waiting until adulthood before indulging in mind altering substances - alcohol, weed, psychedelics, whatever.
That's what I tell my two boys. My older son is 20 and he just started smoking weed. He's in college and doing well, he's held down a great job since he was 16. He totally has his shit together. My younger son is 16 and he's obsessed with basketball, football and running. It's all the does, all he thinks about. You couldn't pay the kid to smoke weed or trip because he knows it would null out most of his efforts.
|
healing
Strangest



Registered: 02/22/11
Posts: 6,565
Loc: the universe, the milky w...
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Big Worm]
#23390694 - 06/28/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
You can't just let a kid manage their own psychiatric medication, even if that medication is mushrooms. Even adults shouldn't self medicate. And older brothers shouldn't do for them it either.
And it's not like this kid is treating a mental illness. This kid is tripping recreationally. There is no possible way that this could be justified as being mentally healthy. That's fucking stupid.
-------------------- Open mind, open heart, open book.
Edited by healing (06/28/16 10:22 AM)
|
kyu
Psychonaughty

Registered: 10/14/12
Posts: 334
Last seen: 6 days, 15 hours
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23391028 - 06/28/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
If shrooms are properly grown and dried, they aren't bad for physical health. I've never heard they are bad for kids' development. But they require some responsibility and prudence. I doubt 12 year old is ready.
And you don't know what will be next, so if there is anything you can do to stop him, better try.
-------------------- You gave me a wonderful, wonderful world, And you gave me eyes to see it, And you gave me LSD to open them.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: kyu]
#23391124 - 06/28/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I feel like smoking lots of cannabis could be more detrimental then some occasional shroom trips.
I started smoking around 11 and definitely have noticed some negative effects on my memory and some other things.
All in all it isn't the worst but I think you owe it to your younger brother to at least explain why he should wait and what the benefits will be for his brain.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Jean-guy Masta
Railyard Ghost


Registered: 09/23/14
Posts: 1,827
Loc: MT-Hell
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: kyu]
#23391136 - 06/28/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
i took my first shrooms when i was 12, look at me now
im perfectly fine
srsly tho it wasnt that bad, nothign wrong happened, but it wasnt big doses, it was 1-2g with friends and my brother. maybe like 15 times till i was 16
but i understand how a big dose or solo trip could really go sour and have long repercusion on a kid.
@musiclover420 agree with you
--------------------

|
AuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23391684 - 06/28/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
It's not as bad as smoking weed at his age but regardless it is still a horrible idea.
|
theshrumnub
God



Registered: 09/02/15
Posts: 740
Loc: florida
Last seen: 8 months, 4 days
|
|
i'm gonna guess this is a troll. i highly doubt a 12 year old is growing his own weed, lmao. either way, shrooms at 12 is just a terrible idea. the kid is probably still learning times tables, man.
--------------------
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
Quote:
theshrumnub said: i'm gonna guess this is a troll. i highly doubt a 12 year old is growing his own weed, lmao. either way, shrooms at 12 is just a terrible idea. the kid is probably still learning times tables, man.
I thought that as well but you never know these days. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some Oregonians who have been growing weed since they were 12
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
ExpelErebus
Dual-Attribute


Registered: 11/17/15
Posts: 548
Loc: Oregon
|
|
Quote:
musiclover420 said: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some Oregonians who have been growing weed since they were 12 
Welcome to Oregon.
--------------------
With exploration, comes growth. Without it, is nothing. Drug Use:
LSD-25, ALD-52, 1P-LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, PRO-LAD, LSZ, LSM, [6-APB], 5-APB, 5-MAPB, 2C-B, 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-B-FLY, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MET, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-DPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-MiPT, DMT, DPT, DET, MET, DOC, Mescaline, Escaline, Proscaline, Allylescaline, Methallylescaline, 5-MeO-DMT, 3-MeO-PCP, MXE, DCK, Tiletamine, Ketamine, N2O, Mushrooms, [Marijuana], Salvia, [Kratom], Alcohol No Marking: Never used Strike through: Used Underline: Upcoming first experience Brackets: Stashed Away in Secret
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
I have lived in Oregon most of my life, was born here and will probably die here, and I have met many single mother's who grow medically over the years.
As times change having your kids help you grow your weed might not be seen much differently then having them help out on a farm or around the house
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Niciskarma
Stranger

Registered: 06/20/16
Posts: 68
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
|
Guys 12 year olds are complete mindless fucks like 8 years or lower - you can think perfectly consciously lol I smoked dmt when i was 11 and it was just fine btw his doses are around 1-3 grams
|
theshrumnub
God



Registered: 09/02/15
Posts: 740
Loc: florida
Last seen: 8 months, 4 days
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23392087 - 06/28/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
why are you asking for advice, then? if you think preteens should be doing psychedelics then whatever. we all know it won't kill the kid; it's just pretty stupid.
--------------------
|
Pineal Crust
Feeling psilly.



Registered: 11/27/13
Posts: 205
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] 1
#23392201 - 06/28/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Niciskarma said: lol I smoked dmt when i was 11 and it was just fine
this is a troll guys.
|
AuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
|
Quote:
musiclover420 said: As times change having your kids help you grow your weed might not be seen much differently then having them help out on a farm or around the house 
Hah well me and my friend helped make wine when we were like 6, stomping grapes and what not. We didn't actually get to try the wine though until years later when we were about 13.
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,149
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 1 minute, 58 seconds
|
|
Yeah well, me and my mates were doing helium in kindergarden. This hot teachers aid used to hook us up.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
LiquidVisions
Consumes Psychoactive Material



Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 1,070
Last seen: 1 year, 9 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
#23392392 - 06/28/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I've asked myself this question many times "can kids do shrooms" and I don't see why not. Say a small child came across psilocybin containing mushrooms in nature and ate them would that be stigmatized? The way I see it, it's not a kid doing drugs, it's a young primate eating mushrooms that happens to alter it's consciousness...which is more or less the same thing but still. My only serious concern is that he will get his ass whopped by the shrooms one day and be mentally scared for life do to the wild society we have. Imagine learning the ugly truth at 12? Could be beneficial and allow him to develop in an extremely healthy way..or it could totally destroy him and fill him with darkness. Is a child capable of processing things? I doubt it. Keep him away from drugs I'd say, at 12 he should be learning about himself though experience those not of the psychedelic kind.
-------------------- Step 1: Stare at this for 30 seconds
Step 2: Look at this after following step one
Step 3: Enjoy the mini trip
|
Niciskarma
Stranger

Registered: 06/20/16
Posts: 68
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
|
Lately he says he's been getting random senses of just utter non conscious is the best words he could use lol he says that during this he'll sit down and think "what the fuck is going on" and apparently he thinks of murdering people idk if this is CUZ of the shrooms or what lol
|
LiquidVisions
Consumes Psychoactive Material



Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 1,070
Last seen: 1 year, 9 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23392439 - 06/28/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Shrooms are not helping him. Throw away his weed plant, smack him in the face and straighten his ass out. Let him grow up before he decides to alter his mind. As an older brother find out why he does these things and find out what he seeks from them, and work with that and try to provide him with what he's searching for.
-------------------- Step 1: Stare at this for 30 seconds
Step 2: Look at this after following step one
Step 3: Enjoy the mini trip
|
Headrush


Registered: 05/20/16
Posts: 338
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23392536 - 06/28/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Troll, several fake threads.
|
UniverseOfTheMind8
Stranger
Registered: 02/16/16
Posts: 227
Last seen: 5 years, 8 months
|
|
Haha, I live in Oregon too. My friends mom is also single and grows massive amounts of pot every year that we've been helping with since we were really young. Funny you said that.
|
UniverseOfTheMind8
Stranger
Registered: 02/16/16
Posts: 227
Last seen: 5 years, 8 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23392713 - 06/28/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
A 12 year old doing shrooms is definitely a bad idea. It's inevitable that he eventually has a bad trip, and if that bad trip happens while he's still really young it'll probably really fuck him up.
|
AuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23392795 - 06/29/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Niciskarma said: Lately he says he's been getting random senses of just utter non conscious is the best words he could use lol he says that during this he'll sit down and think "what the fuck is going on" and apparently he thinks of murdering people idk if this is CUZ of the shrooms or what lol
Either your "brother" is a psycho or you're just making stuff up.
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,149
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 1 minute, 58 seconds
|
|
Quote:
AuroraBorealis88 said:
Quote:
Niciskarma said: Lately he says he's been getting random senses of just utter non conscious is the best words he could use lol he says that during this he'll sit down and think "what the fuck is going on" and apparently he thinks of murdering people idk if this is CUZ of the shrooms or what lol
Either you're a psycho or you're just making stuff up.
Fixed it for you.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
LSDollar


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2,361
Loc: Up Up and Away
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
#23393067 - 06/29/16 05:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I remember my first time I tripped. I was 13 or 14, pretty sure 13 though. I started smoking weed at 13 aswell. 23 now.
|
howsyournaggerdoin
Happy


Registered: 02/04/16
Posts: 1,600
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: LSDollar]
#23393080 - 06/29/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
If you didnt know already this thread is bait. OP is most likely a puppet
|
Universe
Friend


Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 1,161
Last seen: 1 day, 12 hours
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23393182 - 06/29/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Niciskarma said: I mean he's not in the best environment he could be anyways lmao he's been smoking Mary jane since 10 and he's growing some now. I can't stop him from doing it hell, he doesn't tell me where he gets it
If your brother is 12, then what are you - like 14-15? You're definitely NOT 18+. If you were, you wouldn't posting this stuff. You'd be taking action and looking out for the kid. What kind of big brother are you? And what about parenting? Is there any of that going on? If so then it's total parent-fail.
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Universe] 2
#23393724 - 06/29/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think anyone on his forum should be condoning a 12 yr. old taking shrooms....I also think the mods should close down this thread.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
Ezuma
Gontish Wizard



Registered: 12/02/13
Posts: 8,423
Loc: Roke
Last seen: 10 months, 21 days
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
#23394935 - 06/29/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
IMO most people shouldn't do psychedelics until they're over 18, possibly even later. Some people should never do them period.
|
LSDollar


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2,361
Loc: Up Up and Away
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Ezuma]
#23395743 - 06/29/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
|
dixienormous


Registered: 09/21/14
Posts: 1,051
Loc: moon
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: LSDollar]
#23395881 - 06/29/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
He's gonna grow up too fast OP. He'll be in his mid thirtys by the time he's eighteen. 
Seriously though, let him do whatever he wants. It'll speed up his growth if he doesn't kill himself.
He'll probably drop out of school and be nonfunctional in a lot of normal shit routes of society though. Let us just hope he's smarter than average, eh.
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,149
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 1 minute, 58 seconds
|
|
Probably be whacking smack and selling his ass for crack at 15, it's pretty much downhill from there.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
Rainman13


Registered: 05/24/16
Posts: 662
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
#23396266 - 06/30/16 03:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
A dude told me he ate shrooms when he was 8 or something. He was in the back of his brothers car and he found a bag of mushrooms. He loved mushrooms so he ate them.
His brother asked him if the seen the bag of mushrooms. He said "yea i ate them". and his brother replied "you just ate drugs bro" and he reckons he was tripping for 2 days and it really fucked him up.
But anyway this thread is stupid op is obvious troll! Grow up mate. I would say you are 15-16. Shit maybe you are the 12 year old! wouldnt surprise me
What a stupid troll anyway. Im all for a good troll and all but this is just shit. There is good trolls and there is shit trolls. You are a shit troll so get back to the drawing board. You arent fooling anybody here with shit like that. If your gonna troll atleast make it funny for fuck sakes! Amateur!
|
Exotica1
I didnt ask to be here!


Registered: 06/28/16
Posts: 36
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
#23398519 - 06/30/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
But the DMT isn't in quantities in the brain to cause effects. A 12yr old tripping is ridiculous in my opinion. What kind of mentor are you? I child cant handle a psychedelic or a bad trip unless he was some precocious prodigy or something. This guy needs banned!
|
dixienormous


Registered: 09/21/14
Posts: 1,051
Loc: moon
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Exotica1]
#23398743 - 06/30/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Exotica1 said: But the DMT isn't in quantities in the brain to cause effects. A 12yr old tripping is ridiculous in my opinion. What kind of mentor are you? I child cant handle a psychedelic or a bad trip unless he was some precocious prodigy or something. This guy needs banned!
I would say most kids handle it fine. In-fact I would say adults would be more prone to issues if they've never tried it.
Don't give it to them but if they're seeking it themselves....
|
Sabnock
Be Your Own Shaman


Registered: 01/02/14
Posts: 3,249
Last seen: 4 hours, 59 minutes
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Exotica1]
#23398821 - 06/30/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Exotica1 said: But the DMT isn't in quantities in the brain to cause effects. A 12yr old tripping is ridiculous in my opinion. What kind of mentor are you? I child cant handle a psychedelic or a bad trip unless he was some precocious prodigy or something. This guy needs banned!
Actually, DMT is in trace amounts in the Human body, until the body is given the proper stimuli that tells the body to produce more of the DMT, which will raise the levels of DMT thus having a psychological and physical effect for a few minutes until MAO-A metabolizes it out. PEA is another endogenous compound, and there are others, these are also in trace amounts, until the proper stimuli causes the body to produce a high dose "spurt" of it. These endogenous compounds are there for a reason, and if we knew the proper stimuli that would cause the body to produce more of these trace amines, we could access our endogenous compounds naturally. Plus, DMT being natural/native/endogenous to the body, is different/unique compared to other Psychedelics/Entheogens, it feels more natural to the body, something we're supposed to be able feel/experience. It has a very organic feel to it, like it's just another part of our consciousness.
And i need to be banned? I've been here longer than you and merely voiced my opinion, because for me personally (having Aspergers/High Functioning Autism) i believe Ayahuasca would've been better for me at the age of 12 or 13 rather than me being put on all those anti-psychotics and stimulants, Ayahuasca would've helped me so much more.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
#23398898 - 06/30/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Where is the evidence for dmt being endogenous in the human body? I have heard that claim from tons of people but have only seen anecdotal evidence really.
Years ago I could have swore I found a study where they found trace amounts of DMT in various parts of the body but I have never been able to find it since...
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
AuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
|
Quote:
musiclover420 said: Where is the evidence for dmt being endogenous in the human body? I have heard that claim from tons of people but have only seen anecdotal evidence really.
Years ago I could have swore I found a study where they found trace amounts of DMT in various parts of the body but I have never been able to find it since...
The rumor is that it's produced by the brain but it hasn't technically been proven yet. I am fairly certain though that DMT has been proven to occur naturally in human metabolism. I've heard that it's also produced in the liver and the lungs but I don't know if that's proven either.
|
Sabnock
Be Your Own Shaman


Registered: 01/02/14
Posts: 3,249
Last seen: 4 hours, 59 minutes
|
|
Quote:
musiclover420 said: Where is the evidence for dmt being endogenous in the human body? I have heard that claim from tons of people but have only seen anecdotal evidence really.
Years ago I could have swore I found a study where they found trace amounts of DMT in various parts of the body but I have never been able to find it since...
It's apparently been found in the lungs, kidneys, and cerebral spinal fluid, but so far the jury is still out on brain/pineal DMT, though they did find DMT in the brains/pineal of rats. DMT being an endogenous compound in the Human body is an established fact, however we still currently do not have the research to back up it's production in the pineal gland of Humans.
|
Exotica1
I didnt ask to be here!


Registered: 06/28/16
Posts: 36
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
#23399134 - 06/30/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
What exactly does DMT do for the body to produce it?
|
Sabnock
Be Your Own Shaman


Registered: 01/02/14
Posts: 3,249
Last seen: 4 hours, 59 minutes
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Exotica1]
#23399719 - 07/01/16 01:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Exotica1 said: What exactly does DMT do for the body to produce it?
I'm not sure what you mean here. The way i see it, it's kinda like Adrenaline, you don't go around feeling Adrenaline in your normal daily life unless your fight or flight response is triggered by some sort of stimuli, i'm pretty sure it'd be the same for DMT, as in you do something that triggers the body to produce higher amounts of DMT temporarily, so say perhaps fasting for 40 days, or maybe sleep and light deprivation for 2 weeks or so, idk, but whatever the stimuli, the body spurts out a quick high dose of DMT, probably lasts for a few minutes or so, and then MAO-A metabolizes it out, unless MAO-A is inhibited, in which case it's metabolism might shift over to a CYP liver enzyme, if i remember correctly. But yeah, once the body is given the right stimuli, DMT should be released in a higher amount, and as for DMT's roles in the Human body, we don't yet know, but we can hypothesize/theorize based upon the subjective experiencing of the exogenous form of DMT.
|
ExpelErebus
Dual-Attribute


Registered: 11/17/15
Posts: 548
Loc: Oregon
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
#23399735 - 07/01/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
If DMT is truly produced in the pineal gland I'd assume it's the source of spontaneous epiphanies.
--------------------
With exploration, comes growth. Without it, is nothing. Drug Use:
LSD-25, ALD-52, 1P-LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, PRO-LAD, LSZ, LSM, [6-APB], 5-APB, 5-MAPB, 2C-B, 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-B-FLY, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MET, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-DPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-MiPT, DMT, DPT, DET, MET, DOC, Mescaline, Escaline, Proscaline, Allylescaline, Methallylescaline, 5-MeO-DMT, 3-MeO-PCP, MXE, DCK, Tiletamine, Ketamine, N2O, Mushrooms, [Marijuana], Salvia, [Kratom], Alcohol No Marking: Never used Strike through: Used Underline: Upcoming first experience Brackets: Stashed Away in Secret
|
howsyournaggerdoin
Happy


Registered: 02/04/16
Posts: 1,600
|
|
Quote:
musiclover420 said: Where is the evidence for dmt being endogenous in the human body? I have heard that claim from tons of people but have only seen anecdotal evidence really.
Years ago I could have swore I found a study where they found trace amounts of DMT in various parts of the body but I have never been able to find it since...
Quote:
In addition, 5-MeO-DMT may be synthesized in human pineal and retina, and has been identified in human body fluids including urine, blood, and cerebrospinal fluid [7-11]. 5-MeO-DMT is regarded as an endogenous psychotoxin, and elevated concentrations of 5-MeO-DMT and its analogs in body fluids might be associated with psychotic disorders such as schizophrenic psychosis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3028383/
Quote:
The presence of the potent hallucinogenic psychoactive chemical N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in the human body has puzzled scientists for decades. Endogenous DMT was investigated in the 1960s and 1970s and it was proposed that DMT was involved in psychosis and schizophrenia. This hypothesis developed from comparisons of the blood and urine of schizophrenic and control subjects. However, much of this research proved inconclusive and conventional thinking has since held that trace levels of DMT, and other endogenous psychoactive tryptamines, are insignificant metabolic byproducts. The recent discovery of a G-protein-coupled, human trace amine receptor has triggered a reappraisal of the role of compounds present in limited concentrations in biological systems. Interestingly enough, DMT and other psychoactive tryptamine hallucinogens elicit a robust response at the trace amine receptor. While it is currently accepted that serotonin 5-HT(2A) receptors play a pivotal role in the activity of hallucinogenic/psychedelic compounds, we propose that the effects induced by exogenous DMT administration, especially at low doses, are due in part to activity at the trace amine receptor. Furthermore, we suggest that endogenous DMT interacts with the TA receptor to produce a calm and relaxed mental state, which may suppress, rather than promote, symptoms of psychosis. This hypothesis may help explain the inconsistency in the early analysis of endogenous DMT in humans. Finally, we propose that amphetamine action at the TA receptor may contribute to the calming effects of amphetamine and related drugs, especially at low doses.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780487
|
SloppyJoseph
Non-sporalator



Registered: 12/08/15
Posts: 8,511
Loc:
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
|
Seriously? Shrooms at 12? You're little brother?
-------------------- AMU Q&A
|
larry.fisherman
shoulda died already


Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 36,294
|
|
There are reports of kids having serious complications ingesting psilocybin mushrooms. It's really easy information to attain. The science seems pretty easy. Kids are underdeveloped and these drugs cause CNS depression. You're taking the last few bricks out of an already shitty Jenga tower.
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,149
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 1 minute, 58 seconds
|
|
Nice analogy bro
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
UniverseOfTheMind8
Stranger
Registered: 02/16/16
Posts: 227
Last seen: 5 years, 8 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
#23407874 - 07/03/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
DMT is supposedly the reason why we dream at night. Of course there's no proof of it though. Although I found it kind've weird that I used to never have dreams at all, but after smoking DMT one time I now dream vividly every time I sleep. It's almost like it opened up something in my brain.
|
KamikazeKush
A Most Curious Explorer



Registered: 12/03/13
Posts: 622
Loc: Azeroth mostly
Last seen: 3 years, 5 months
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: LSDollar]
#23412550 - 07/05/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mirraco said: I remember my first time I tripped. I was 13 or 14, pretty sure 13 though. I started smoking weed at 13 aswell. 23 now.
Woah, me too. Twinning
-------------------- A Man Said to the Universe: “Sir, I exist!” “However,” replied the universe, “The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation.” -Stephen Crane
|
SonicTitan



Registered: 05/17/16
Posts: 24,068
Last seen: 2 hours, 45 minutes
|
|
I somewhat regret starting so early . My first psychedelic experience was at 15 and was salvia then soon after I just started eating acid and mushrooms as much as I possibly could and any time I was able. It was amazing but I feel if I waited until I was older maybe I would have gotten more from my high dose experiences. I also feel they have caused me to put alot of emphasis and emotions behind alot of my decisions and thoughts to the extent where I end up hurting myself (emotionally) like with relationships and stuff. I feel way to hard sometimes.
-------------------- "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
 
|
superbob57
The Hobbit from the Shire



Registered: 05/21/05
Posts: 3,146
Loc: The Shire
Last seen: 7 months, 7 days
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23412842 - 07/05/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I cant say this is smart, this is a child with a growing mind and still in big development in cognitive thinking, messing with the natural chemistry @ this age can really result in some bad things...I'd would wait 12 is too young....
-------------------- If I run full blast, I'll never get tired and If I slow down I get stuck, so I opened my mind and let the wild things in and there not going away but getting stronger, day by day, I will find the source of all things it's only a matter of time and I will be one with the universe once again my friends...I will never find the end but the start of a new begining...-J.R.S.A Man Of Experiences ...IV 4-aco-DMT "Where Fools Rush In, and Angels Fear To Tread..." NN-DMT Pure Magic Wizard Dust! folio]http://www.redbubble.com/people/khaotehk/portfolio[/url] https://youtu.be/C1_YHJDRgqE
   I miss you, I love you my Angel Aimee Renee Orme March 14th 2020. Always and Forever will are Love will go on, Forever & Always are Etched on my Heart. ❤
|
AkashicExplorer
Dimensional Jumper



Registered: 09/12/13
Posts: 912
Last seen: 4 days, 20 hours
|
Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: healing]
#23425571 - 07/09/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
healing said: You can't just let a kid manage their own psychiatric medication, even if that medication is mushrooms. Even adults shouldn't self medicate. And older brothers shouldn't do for them it either.
And it's not like this kid is treating a mental illness. This kid is tripping recreationally. There is no possible way that this could be justified as being mentally healthy. That's fucking stupid.
There is no such thing as recreational tripping imho...
If you reach out to psyches, you do it to fulfill a part of your life that the physical plane and our physical senses wont fulfill.
This could be due the lack of something in your life (such as this kid) as well as something (that we all know here) that this physical plane cannot offer.
12 is too young, but would blame the kid, but the environment he might be around. Saddens me seeing kids smoking weed at 9.... At 9 I was playing castle, battle, hide and seek and other common games, awesome games that now, "there is an app that does that" I did probably not even know what weed is.
--------------------
The 87 gram MushZilla BEAST
And it just obliterated the uttermost crap out from me. Love, Bliss, Laughter and Enlightenment!
|
Universe
Friend


Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 1,161
Last seen: 1 day, 12 hours
|
|
Quote:
There is no such thing as recreational tripping imho...
If you reach out to psyches, you do it to fulfill a part of your life that the physical plane and our physical senses wont fulfill.
That's not true. When I started tripping at 16 it was purely recreational. I was reading about it, my friends were doing it and it was available to me. I first tried acid because I thought it might be a way to get high and spend less money on weed. I kept doing it just for the fun of it. It was just something to do on a Saturday night. Between 16 and 22 I tripped hundreds of times, but only hand full of them had any real purpose or meaning. Those particular ones stand out in my memory. The rest were purely recreational and unmemorable.
This forum is full of people who will say almost the same thing - or they will when they get older and they look back.
|
|