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OfflineNiciskarma
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Ok for shrooms at 12?
    #23388713 - 06/27/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, so my little brother has been taking shrooms... He's 12 years old and he's done them 5 times he's done 4 by him self (including first time) and 1 with a spotter and he's done everything from tea to tek i just want to know is this healthy? If not what are the health risks. Btw after each time he says everything went fine and he felt great but the last 2 times he told me that nothing really happened except euphoria.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? *DELETED* [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23388736 - 06/27/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Epiglottis]
    #23388742 - 06/27/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I wasn't looking for someone to say "go skull fuck him" lol I was just wondering if it's bad for his body he's not addicted or anything


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] * 4
    #23388750 - 06/27/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

No it's not fucking healthy. He's a kid doing drugs during some of his more important years of development. Go be a god damn brother then kick your own ass for asking a stupid question.

Queue the fucking hippies.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23388753 - 06/27/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I mean he's not in the best environment he could be anyways lmao he's been smoking Mary jane since 10 and he's growing some now. I can't stop him from doing it hell, he doesn't tell me where he gets it


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] * 1
    #23388768 - 06/27/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Just my two cents... I was put on stimulants and anti-psychotics around the age of ten, then in my teens i was put on anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. I stopped taking all those things back in 2010, and since 2012 i've been using Ayahuasca on and off, and i truly feel like had i not been put on those pharma drugs and could've instead taken Shrooms or Ayahuasca, i would've turned out much better. Plus with Ayahuasca, the DMT in it is natural to the Human body, and isn't anything to worry about health wise. Shrooms, i'm not sure how they would go but i don't imagine a moderate dosage would cause any negative health issues, if done with the right mindset and setting, and setting not being chaotic for the experiencer, the setting needs to be stable and comfortable.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma] * 4
    #23388770 - 06/27/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The problem with psychedelics and young people is that they de-integrate your personality. In a grown adult we get to put the pieces back together and learn from the experience, with children they don't have all the pieces yet. They are basically scrambling their psychological building blocks.

It's bad shit for young people man. Psychedelics are not a toy and certainly not for kids.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
    #23389490 - 06/27/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The problem with psychedelics and young people is that they de-integrate your personality. In a grown adult we get to put the pieces back together and learn from the experience, with children they don't have all the pieces yet. They are basically scrambling their psychological building blocks.

It's bad shit for young people man. Psychedelics are not a toy and certainly not for kids.




Maybe not all kids, but some, such as myself (i have Aspergers/HFA) and i find it makes for quite the medicine unlike pharmaceuticals, i think the pharmaceuticals did more damage to my younger self than Ayahuasca would've. Ayahuasca is not like other Psychedelics. Yeah i understand how it resets things and you gotta start over, but i feel it can give oneself some guidance if used properly and not recklessly/immaturely (it's gotta be used responsibly and for the right reasons).


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Sabnock]
    #23389556 - 06/27/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, pharms and kids are often a royal fuck up. Poorly educated and corporate sponsored doctors coupled with overwhelmed and naive parents. Such a crap combo. I have had doctors try and advise me to medicate my son, I told them straight out no and they refuse to see us anymore. So be it.

Sadly psychs aren't researched well enough yet to treat many conditions, I think you're probably right with a potential medicinal use there. Maybe one day we'll get there.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #23389621 - 06/27/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I was 17 for my first entheogenic (had tried hallucinogens before but salvia is meaningless compared to the tryptamines and serotonergic psychs) and I think I was too young. The psychedelic experience is something to be taken very seriously and as a young teenager it is really hard to have the familiarity with your own thinking patterns, mannerisms, and the subconscious as a whole to go through the psychedelic experience responsibly and sanely. I'm not saying I hurt myself taking acid in high school, but if my big phase of psychedelic experimentation came when I was most mature it would/could be so much more meaningful.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #23389626 - 06/27/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A 12 year old should not be taking psychedelics dude, Jesus he isn't even a teenager yet like wtf haha. I get that you can't control him but at least talk to him as his big brother on why a little kid his age shouldn't be taking psychedelics  I'm starting to think you may be a little young yourself...


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Northerner]
    #23390651 - 06/28/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The problem with psychedelics and young people is that they de-integrate your personality. In a grown adult we get to put the pieces back together and learn from the experience, with children they don't have all the pieces yet. They are basically scrambling their psychological building blocks.

It's bad shit for young people man. Psychedelics are not a toy and certainly not for kids.



This. Holy crap....the kid probably hasn't even hit puberty yet.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #23390668 - 06/28/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What Sabnock is saying.



Probably microdosing Psilocybin would be better than any SSRI or amphetamine pharms they put kids on who are even younger than 12.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23390681 - 06/28/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I started smoking weed at 14 and tripping at 16 and I turned out fine, for the most part.

But - I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. 12 is way too early. Those are the years when you develop skills that you need in order to live a functional life. Those are the years when you can become insanely good at things in a way that will never come again. Anything that gets in the way is bad. All humans are best off waiting until adulthood before indulging in mind altering substances - alcohol, weed, psychedelics, whatever.

That's what I tell my two boys. My older son is 20 and he just started smoking weed. He's in college and doing well, he's held down a great job since he was 16. He totally has his shit together. My younger son is 16 and he's obsessed with basketball, football and running. It's all the does, all he thinks about. You couldn't pay the kid to smoke weed or trip because he knows it would null out most of his efforts.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Big Worm]
    #23390694 - 06/28/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You can't just let a kid manage their own psychiatric medication, even if that medication is mushrooms. Even adults shouldn't self medicate. And older brothers shouldn't do for them it either.

And it's not like this kid is treating a mental illness. This kid is tripping recreationally. There is no possible way that this could be justified as being mentally healthy. That's fucking stupid.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23391028 - 06/28/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If shrooms are properly grown and dried, they aren't bad for physical health. I've never heard they are bad for kids' development.
But they require some responsibility and prudence. I doubt 12 year old is ready.

And you don't know what will be next, so if there is anything you can do to stop him, better try.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: kyu]
    #23391124 - 06/28/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel like smoking lots of cannabis could be more detrimental then some occasional shroom trips.

I started smoking around 11 and definitely have noticed some negative effects on my memory and some other things.

All in all it isn't the worst but I think you owe it to your younger brother to at least explain why he should wait and what the benefits will be for his brain.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: kyu]
    #23391136 - 06/28/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i took my first shrooms when i was 12, look at me now

im perfectly fine :ohokayigetit:

srsly tho it wasnt that bad, nothign wrong happened, but it wasnt big doses, it was 1-2g with friends and my brother. maybe like 15 times till i was 16

but i understand how a big dose or solo trip could really go sour and have long repercusion on a kid.

@musiclover420 agree with you


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23391684 - 06/28/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's not as bad as smoking weed at his age but regardless it is still a horrible idea.


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Re: Ok for shrooms at 12? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23391760 - 06/28/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i'm gonna guess this is a troll. i highly doubt a 12 year old is growing his own weed, lmao. either way, shrooms at 12 is just a terrible idea. the kid is probably still learning times tables, man.


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