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yogashaman21
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Re: horrible mimosa/caapi experience [Re: Bozko]
#23390862 - 06/28/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spellbound said: I was planning on using b caapi vine followed by chacruna leaves when i try. I bought chacruna, mimosa and chaliponga so i can try all three in time. Have some rue also but was gna stick with the vine. Never tried it yet though. I read some users not as keen on chaliponga as its different dmt to mimosa and chacruna?
stop trying to sabotage my thread
This is why you have bad trips buddy.
don't call me your "buddy" and tell me why I have bad trips.
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Re: horrible mimosa/caapi experience [Re: yogashaman21]
#23390898 - 06/28/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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At risk of receiving another abusive message from you OP, i merely expressed a shared interest in ayah, for you to them send a message such as you did, must lead one to wonder why you are so angry, you wont have good experiences on anything with that kind of attitude i cant imagine what i said in my post that angered you so.... As i said i have material im interested in spiritual healing use of ayah and as users were offering you good advice i subbed to the thread to read their advice, its a forum thats the point?
Sod it anyway not here to meet angry abusive people.
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Re: horrible mimosa/caapi experience [Re: yogashaman21]
#23391153 - 06/28/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yogashaman21 said: I feel like i'm literally trapped, and stuck, in hell. But the good news is that I am going to go on a deep spiritual healing in an awesome place with great people and a very good plant, as soon as I save up some money. So hopefully once I get more healed and in tune with nature and the cosmos and free from ego and mental sickness and psychic difficulties, I will be able to pursue this path of plants as far as it will take me.
yes its true in the past i have used wrong psychedelics with people i didn't trust in bad environments and I feel like I permanently fucked up my entire life because of it and it frustrates me to no end. But eventually I want to get free from this hopefully through aforementioned plant retreat.
If your mindset is the problem, no amount of tripping is going to help that. It doesn't matter what you take, how much you take, where you are, or who you're with, if your mindset is causing you to have bad trips, tripping isn't going to change that. You'd just be banging your head against a wall.
There are a lot of ways to change your mindset. Meditation, counseling, support groups, books. Basically you need to learn more about who you are and grow as a person. Sometimes all it takes is taking a long break from doing drugs.
I disagree. I was told that I could heal totally and move beyond fear and sadness and sickness and experience healing and also reach a higher level enlightenment by doing an intensive plant diet. Why should I just give up and not try? I don't think that meditation works for everyone; it certainly doesn't work for me, and neither does counseling or support groups. I refuse to stay stuck like this, and I will indeed seek alternate healing from this.
Achieving a higher level of enlightenment requires a vast amount of personal growth. It is not through the ingestion of psychedelics alone that one achieves such a thing. It requires much mental and spiritual effort, and extensive guidance from someone intimately familiar with the inner workings of the human mind, or soul if you rather.
If you do in fact seek psychedelic therapy for some mental illness from which you suffer, be very wary of the guidance you seek. There are a great many charlatans within that field. Your best bet is to find a psychiatrist who specializes in such a treatment, but those are very uncommon and don't easily take on new patients as such a treatment is against the law. Barring that, the next best thing is a highly experienced shaman or traditional healer, but their efficacy in treating mental illness is spotty at best as it's highly dependent on the nature of the illness, and most purported shamans are really just scam artists with drugs.
What exactly is the illness for which you seek treatment? What sort of treatment have you accepted so far? Are you currently under the care of a psychiatrist or psychologist?
When it comes down to it, there are many mental illnesses that simply cannot be treated by the application of psychedelics, even under the care of a specialized psychiatrist. They're not a cure all.
-------------------- Open mind, open heart, open book.
Edited by healing (06/28/16 01:49 PM)
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