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OfflineGoldenexplorer
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Alchohol Extraction Question.
    #23388060 - 06/27/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

SWIM recently got done flushing a cake, crumbled it up, dried it out and soaked it in Everclear for a week and strained it. It left behind an amber colored solution. SWIM has done extractions with ground up fungi fruits before and the solution was clear.

SWIM realizes that they are also extracting things from the substrate. Question is, are there any precautions SWIM should take? Is it safe?

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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23388075 - 06/27/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Don't know, but am curios to know as well.

Good choice of peanut butter, btw.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23388170 - 06/27/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

We don't SWIM here.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Subnet Mask]
    #23388756 - 06/27/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23388761 - 06/27/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You did an alcohol extraction on a cake?  That's like smoking the huge clump of resin after cleaning a bong.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #23389229 - 06/27/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Alcohol extraction on a cake makes a resin ball hit sound attractive lol


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23389236 - 06/27/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

eat the fruits you grew


Edited by Munchauzen (06/27/16 10:02 PM)


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23389281 - 06/27/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I tried an alcohol extraction once and the shit turned smurf jizz blue


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: maddchef]
    #23389489 - 06/27/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:whippedcreamhead:
In my head I can only think that is going to taste like burned asshole hairs. And I have no reference to verify it.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23389505 - 06/27/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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eat the fruits you grew




Hey now, if you didn't change your mind in the first 5 minutes you gotta leave it.  non-ninja editing is teh lamez. :lol:


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #23389530 - 06/27/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Inocuole said:
Quote:

Munchauzen said:
eat the fruits you grew




Hey now, if you didn't change your mind in the first 5 minutes you gotta leave it.  non-ninja editing is teh lamez. :lol:





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Edited by Munchauzen (06/27/16 11:44 PM)


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23389665 - 06/28/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just saying man, dialing back the rage all the time is gonna give you some kinda complex, release the beast!


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #23389671 - 06/28/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why hasn't anyone told him to drink it yet?


OP, drink it man. Report back.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: maddchef]
    #23389738 - 06/28/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The alcohol won't kill all contamination. Impurities left behind might make you a little sick to your stomach depending on how your body reacts for it. 

You might get a little sick but I'm curious to see what happens.

Next time just grow more shrooms. :shrug:


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23390183 - 06/28/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

He could pasteurize the extraction to make it safer to drink. Just don't use an open flame heat source when pasteurizing it and ensure good ventilation. Ethanol begins to boil around 173 degrees. He could possibly even PC the jar to sterilize it. Not exactly sure how a jar of alcohol would react in a pc tho. Might not work like pcing a jar of water, I've never tried it. I would only try that with an AA pc with a sterilizer valve that doesn't vent, wouldn't want the pc to be able to vent alcohol vapors if that jar exploded and your heat source was an open flame.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Juiceh]
    #23390214 - 06/28/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Whatever happens..be close to a toilet. It's going to come out both ends.
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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23390354 - 06/28/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I would go with a double boiler to reduce the alcohol down by about half. My shroom extractions have used the soak and boil method and they come-out gray/blue. The extract get's darker the more you reduce it.

Not sure you have much actives in this batch. It is going to be hard to dose. Be careful. But drink it.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: NewZooReview]
    #23390481 - 06/28/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

don't drink it fucking chug it and follow with a swig of vodka for good measure.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: maddchef]
    #23390892 - 06/28/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Purification is usually the next step after extraction.  Search the advanced mycology and the chem subforums


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Snazz]
    #23390951 - 06/28/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see why you need to purify an alcohol extraction. Technicaly we don't even know exactly what all we extract so purification isn't really possible.

There are likely proteins, carbs, lipids?, who knows what else along with our desired alkaloid. Please point me anywhere on the site that deals with isolating out just the indole which is what I'm assuming you mean by purification.

Please don't say psilocybin crystals lol


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: maddchef]
    #23391049 - 06/28/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fats + stuff that dissolves in non-polar solvents for starters. (v/v separation)


Usual stuff :p  Perhaps figuring out an A/B to get the right salts. But realistically, solvent affinities will get you most of the way without adding acid/bases especially if you dephosphorylate


From there you might want to use some reagents or TLC to try and figure out what else comes from the extraction.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23391057 - 06/28/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There may have been contaminants in the sub.
Even if it had fruited successfully.

No other concerns though.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: kyu]
    #23391066 - 06/28/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Byproducts of contams perhaps, but no microbe will make it through that much processing with heat and solvents


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Snazz]
    #23391478 - 06/28/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

1 tsp was taken. Hour and a half in. Feels like 1 gram dried fruits.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23391481 - 06/28/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:thatsinteresting:


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #23391495 - 06/28/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I drank an extracted crumbled cake in a glass of whiskey once. I let it sit for about an hour, screened it and drank it.

:horrified:

I can almost taste it now. So not worth it.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23391726 - 06/28/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have a pint and a half jar of this alcohol solution in my freezer.  Honestly, I've been afraid to try it.  I made it with a bunch of Maz's I grew.  They were great shrooms, but they made me really sick.  My stomach was queasy for a few days after that trip.  I have a really weak stomach.

OP - Do you live in a state where you can get real Everclear, or did you have to get the 151 proof Everclear?  Did you use the tek on PF's really old website?


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23392580 - 06/28/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

honestly it works pretty much as well with water although it doesn't keep. IME use something around 80 proof so you get a alcohol/water combo


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: maddchef]
    #23392946 - 06/29/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I tried it with an 86% alcohol that I distilled myself but it was shit and it even tasted like it. I used it on PE fruits btw, extracting subs must be disgusting.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23394177 - 06/29/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

190 Everclear. 1 tsp was taken with cranberry juice, and another tsp 1 hour in. Things got a little weird and wavvy, not too intense. Just tasted like alcohol with cranberry.


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Re: Alchohol Extraction Question. [Re: Goldenexplorer]
    #23394283 - 06/29/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

At least you had the balls to drink it.


Yeah not much taste like anything else when mixed with everclear, just everclear lol


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