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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23426024 - 07/09/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was reading about Newlands forest in Cape town. It was saying that radiata pines and eucalyptus trees have been imported from USA and Australia and planted there. They have become weeds and are spreading competing with the native vegetation. Has anyone here from South Africa been there? It sure looked like a great place to hunt for active Psilocybes. There are pics on google of some of the edible mushrooms people find there.

Sorry for getting a bit off topic. It's like a puzzle I'm trying to solve as to how active mushrooms spread from one place to another. I know radiata pines are found in USA north to Monterey at 37degrees N. This is the southern limit of P.cyanescens there I think? Eucalypts or more importantly P.subaeruginosa can be found from 28- 38 degrees S or more I guess if I include Tasmania. So I guess either species could have been introduced. Anyway enough of my rambling:blush:


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Heyowana]
    #23426094 - 07/09/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

hahaha nevermind... you are talking about p. as in psilo cyanescens... not panaeolus cyanescens. damn..... wow man im tripping hard here. p. cyanescens means NOTHING on this forum ya'll as some of us interpret the :"p" in p. cyans as "panaeolus" as in the only mushroom that exists in my world that I care about... yeah that "p"... oh man,.. oh man... on and on and on..  also they are shy.  im sure that 50 cent will be here soon to laugh at me and tell me that on THIS forum p cyan means psilo by default and that im the laughing stock of the world for not knowing this. in fact its probably true. why am i even bothering again? someone remind me why we try to socialize when we already know the game is rigged and its not about whats real or true but whoever the most popular lord of the flies tell us it is. reality is subjective isnt it' life including online forums are all about control and its all about being accepted. well guess what im never going to allow myself tyo be accepted by anyone or any group ever. i prefer being hated on the outside looking in but remember you can always come join me out here in the rain. hell you might get used to it. i have only met very few people on earth so far that could handle it though and you are not it... haha


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Heyowana]
    #23431432 - 07/11/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Heyowana said:
I was reading about Newlands forest in Cape town. It was saying that radiata pines and eucalyptus trees have been imported from USA and Australia and planted there. They have become weeds and are spreading competing with the native vegetation. Has anyone here from South Africa been there? It sure looked like a great place to hunt for active Psilocybes. There are pics on google of some of the edible mushrooms people find there.

Sorry for getting a bit off topic. It's like a puzzle I'm trying to solve as to how active mushrooms spread from one place to another. I know radiata pines are found in USA north to Monterey at 37degrees N. This is the southern limit of P.cyanescens there I think? Eucalypts or more importantly P.subaeruginosa can be found from 28- 38 degrees S or more I guess if I include Tasmania. So I guess either species could have been introduced. Anyway enough of my rambling:blush:




Yes Newlands forest is a good place for mushrooms. It's a popular hunting spot for Boletus which were most likely introduced into the Cape via imported pines which are indeed growing like weeds and taking over the indigenous flora, so you could be onto something there about actives being introduced with the importing of trees from Australia or USA. I've been looking at the South Australia and NSW threads on this years subaeruginosa season, and the types of terrain people are finding them are very similar to the place I found these, CT and Southern Australia are both around 30-34° S so the conditions would be similar and the subs do look very much like these I've been finding... Anyway, I've looked at a few other similar spots since finding these and nothing else has turned up yet.

A few more pictures taken today:



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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
    #23431618 - 07/11/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice Mantis-photo!


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23432200 - 07/11/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

a micrometer is probably the better option, its just a bit more pricier here, found a guy who imports them costing around R230, think prices range, this price was for a 0.01mm was on a pic i used on my add looking for a micrometer he must have thought i was looking for that size, but have the contact now that good.

i read on a post about the slides, am looking out for them too. the guy might also have. i like the slide idea. in the end will get both, more than one slide.
at the moment cheap is good, our pockets are not vary deep.

also saw on piximetre one can calibrate using a picture as a reference. i had the idea of borrowing one from vet or someone and taking sample pics using all the objectives on my scope and just use them till i can get what i need as i will be only using the same camera and scope. sure can get all other needed info from the pic info and so on.


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
    #23432270 - 07/11/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

haha see my post out of line again must have just updated when i posted. should ma have quoted.
nice pics man, i have also went out to look at similar places in my area which is about 400km also along coast from 0.01, also nothing so far, thy might be very restricted to only certain habitat features or micro climates within our country. maybe that patch is one of the starter patches and will spread from there.
is very interesting how certain species have spread to south africa. similar to the import of p.radiatus pine and eucalyptus with the active mush heyowana was mentioning, read an article similar but with mushroom armillaria mellea the honey fungus that 0.01 informed me of growing in one of the gardens in cape town. also possibly introduced here by tree brought over as a pot plant think the article mentioned. thy did dna test with species from eu, usa, Canada i think to compare and see where came from. typing under correction but think it also matched more with specimen from the stated will just have to go back and look.

was pondering with my girlfriend about grassland, dung species brought over by imported cattle with settlers and so on and still today maybe.


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
    #24112415 - 02/23/17 12:09 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Anglerfish said:
Could they perchance be Psilocybe cyanescens? Import by accident?






Excellent guess.

The ITS sequence matched the holotype sequence of P. cyanescens 100%.


GCGTGGTTGTAGCTGGTCCTCTCGGGGGCATGTGCTCGCCCGTCATCTTTATATCTCCACCTGTGCACCTTTTGTAGACGTTGAAACTGGATAGGAGAGGGACTTGTCCTTCAAGTTGAAGGATTTTTCGGCGCTCTACGTTTTCATATACCCCAAAGAATGTAACAGAATGTATCTTATGGCTTTATGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCCTTGGTATTCCGAGGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTTACCAGCTTTTGTTAGCTTGTGTAATGGCTTGGACTTGGGGGTCTTTTGCCGGCTTCTCTCGAGATGTCAGCTCCCCTTAAATGTATTAGCCGGCTGCCCGCTGTGGACCGTCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGACGTCTGCTCTCAATGGGTTGAAGCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCGTTTATTCGGACAGCACATAATGACAATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAagCGGAGGAA


I wonder if these are wild or cultivated.


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24112458 - 02/23/17 12:50 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

So awesome, guess i know what i'm doing in CT when i go down next time.


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: dracolusus]
    #24112677 - 02/23/17 05:52 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: catnip40]
    #24113595 - 02/23/17 01:51 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

:eek:


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24120308 - 02/26/17 02:47 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Fantastic news! Thanks Alan. How they got there and for how long they've been there is still anyone's guess. Looking forward to see if they reappear again this year...


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
    #24121692 - 02/26/17 05:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome find. Stunning pictures man.


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #24122191 - 02/26/17 08:48 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Those last pictures made me pretty sure that they would turn out this way. But, I could say the same thing about many collections of P. subaeruginosa. Awesome!


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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: ambc]
    #24135572 - 03/04/17 08:46 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Very cool! :smile:

Great to know those might be around. :smile:


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