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ID Cape Town psilocybe
#23387343 - 06/27/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi
These were found growing among pine needles and long grass at the edge of a pine forest in Cape Town towards the end of June. As far as I know, there's been no recorded sighting or documentation of psilocybes in the Cape before, so was very surprised to see these. I'm only aware of 2 species from South Africa - p.natalensis and p.transkei, which grow much further north. My first guess was that these are p.cyanescens, but think they could also be p.ovoideocystidiata. Any help with identification would be greatly appreciated.
The caps ranged from about 1.5 - 4cm in diameter. Hygrophanous. Caramel brown to chestnut in color and a more pale, straw like color in drier specimens, bruising deep blue, almost greenish, concentrated mostly at the edges of the caps. The stems are a whitish color with flecks of blue where handled. The stems are also quite tough with quite a vigorous root-like mycelium attached. The spores are a dark purplish color. The night time temps were around 8-13° C at the time.
Edited by 0.01 (07/07/16 08:26 AM)
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
#23387358 - 06/27/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice find! I'm wondering what those are, they look kind of close to P. subaeruginosa.
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#23387419 - 06/27/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks...just checked them out and yeah they do look quite similar to p. subaeruginosa, but I'm still not sure - will keep looking.
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
#23387425 - 06/27/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry, I was too hasty there, I meant P. subaeruginascens.
Check and compare to this find on Mushroom Observer, also from Cape Town: http://mushroomobserver.org/122795
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#23387764 - 06/27/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Excellent! Thanks. A very useful link.
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
#23387832 - 06/27/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I see similarities but the lack of annulus in your specimens gives me doubt.
Definitely an active Psilocybe sp. Micro and/or DNA sequence would be useful (and maybe necessary).
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#23387880 - 06/27/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those look POTENT!
You should definitely pass some material along to someone to get them ID'd. Seeing some amazing species from Africa this year, they look like.ovoids and subs had a super potent child....lol. Beautiful finds man.
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thy do look good, the same find of the link on top may have a thread here to on page 4 under shrine, very good discussion bout P. subaeruginascens. would love a spore print or dry cap to experiment on if you willing to send samples, i have a microscope with basic experience still working on my skill and functional lab to make cultures. live in mosselbay so relatively close. gona go see up by our plantations if can find, havnt been hunting for couple days as doesnt seem to be much fruiting at this time. this find makes it woth goin out in cold, look for some liberty caps while i am in there near farm lands. if wane send some stuff lets get connected
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23387990 - 06/27/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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see combine the 2 threads sure guys there wouls also be very intrested
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23388007 - 06/27/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could they perchance be Psilocybe cyanescens? Import by accident?
Just wondering...
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#23388040 - 06/27/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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few samples of active mush have been popping up around , could be escaped spores from a growers or i was more leaning towards global warming and climate change, but could also be spontaneous due to odd weather patterns during past months, weeks. who knows just glad some species are popping up , i have been hunting western cape for couple years when can, and so far been nothing to interesting. cant say on the cayn Q wish can be never seen them in real life, only pics, some share that description from looking at them caramel type color and wavy caps, prob need more intensive identification. thy do kinda resemble the P. subaeruginascens discussed in the other thread 'Psilocybin mushrooms?' by shrine
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23388053 - 06/27/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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only seen and played with some pan. species.. cubes... and liberty caps and p.mexicana truffles. the other i am unfamiliar with but gona try help out here to identify.
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23388091 - 06/27/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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whatever they are they look potent as shit
nice finds
africa seems like an untapped mystery land when it comes to psilocybin mushrooms
they do significantly resemble cyans though
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23388100 - 06/27/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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from these pics and from another ct sample in other thread your ones has that central depression , spot that is not clearly present on the others, both seem to have straite margins and thick strong rizamorphs at base and prob all over substrate.some article also mentioned P. subaeruginascens growing at edges of pine or among pinur radiata bark chips. grow from complex substrate of soil, leaf litter, woodchips and twigs, prob manure and other organic matter. will check out more later
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23388109 - 06/27/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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true true, on both accounts haha. having a correct name is always nice.. definitely there still plenty of treasures to be found, wish thy would make it a bit easier to find them, hard works prob makes the find so much more better haha
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#23388419 - 06/27/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes I'm also doubtful they're p.subaeruginascens - they're overall much smaller and no annulus zone - although the annulus zone in the pics on Shrines post from the above link does make me think that what he found was more likely p.cubensis and not p.subaeruginascens. I still think they could be p.cyanescens.
I guess the only way to tell for sure would be lab analysis. Either way it's quite exciting to have found these!
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: fungimunch]
#23388530 - 06/27/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes there have been some bizarre weather changes here recently. I was out looking for boletus when I found these and also noticed that there were a ton of amanita muscaria's out this year compared to recent years...and not so many boletus. I'd pretty much given up looking for psilocybes years ago so these came as quite a surprise...and sure, if I get a decent, clean spore print I could pass it along. Good luck hunting around Mosselbay.
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
#23389038 - 06/27/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like Psilocybe cyanescens or something closely related.
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Yes I'm also leaning towards p.cyanescens, but would like to get them tested to be sure.
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Re: ID Cape Town psilocybe [Re: 0.01]
#23390142 - 06/28/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cool find. Someone from USA or Europe would put a P.cyanescens ID on them. Whereas an Australian or New Zealander would go with P.subaeruginosa. Capetown is about 34degrees S? Maybe its something new that shows those characteristics of cyanescens and subaeruginosa. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.
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