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Must a scientist be an atheist?
    #23386346 - 06/27/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Obviously we all know that some scientists are religious and some are not, but my question pertains to carrying the scientific mindset into all aspects of one's lives. As emotional beings it is not possible to be 100% logical all the time, but why would one not strive for that?

EVEN THE MOST RELIGIOUS SCIENTIST does not take his beliefs into the laboratory with him. What do I mean by that? Most modern religions teach that God can and does occasionally interfere with causation. Things such as fate, meant-to-be-ness and answered prayer require some external manipulation of people and events. Yet, in a lab, the fundamentalist researcher never says that I got such and such results because God willed it; or if he did, his paper would never get published and he would become a laughing stock - even among religious scientists.

Water at a specific pressure ALWAYS boils at the same temperature. Deviations from such denotes a flaw in the methodology or measuring equipment and is not indicative of supernatural forces.

My take is that religious scientists, even great ones, are not applying critical inquiry into their beliefs.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? *DELETED* [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #23386356 - 06/27/16 01:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386367 - 06/27/16 02:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Most accepted science is based on ignorance of those two things



WTF? We are starting off with a real winner here, folks. :rolleyes:

Please explain to the audience how the workings of a cell phone are based on the ignorance of spiritual and religious things?

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It depends how you perceive and define logic.



Not at all. The rules of logic are well-defined and understood by serious students. This is the basis of how we are communicating right now.

They are hardly arbitrary like preferring chocolate over vanilla.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386371 - 06/27/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The end of science is not to prove a theory




Not sure where you got that quote, but the author is in dire need of an education. Theories are never proven. They stand until disproven. That is an enormous difference.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 2
    #23386373 - 06/27/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If you're not an atheist, you will be bullied out of the profession by other atheists. So yeah, you pretty much have to be one otherwise you won't enjoy the lifestyle.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: viktor]
    #23386380 - 06/27/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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If you're not an atheist, you will be bullied out of the profession by other atheists.




Way to completely miss the topic. Of course, if you want to take that turn-off, a mere statement from you is insufficient. I am certain that beyond a random anecdote or two, you have no evidence of such a large-scale, organized witch hunt.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23386384 - 06/27/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: viktor]
    #23386387 - 06/27/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ah yes, the atheist lifestyle; wherein one gets cool toys and hot babes merely for not-believing in defunct myths.



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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386389 - 06/27/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386392 - 06/27/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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we are aloud to learn about.




We are 'not silently' to learn about? Huh?


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386394 - 06/27/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: viktor]
    #23386396 - 06/27/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23386397 - 06/27/16 02:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg] * 1
    #23386399 - 06/27/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Like Reich for example. They were real scientists studying nature and learning the real way... This is not modern science...

Reich was working with energy, like others tesla for example. The scientific community is as corrupt as religion itself.




Not sure what your point is. Word salad is not debate.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386402 - 06/27/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23386408 - 06/27/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg]
    #23386414 - 06/27/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

There is no debate on your end; just words strung together with minimal thought, no cohesion and zero backing evidence.

You would love the M&P forum. It is much more suited to your style.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg] * 1
    #23386419 - 06/27/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Nor do i care.




This is a standard response. I have seen it literally hundreds of times over the years.

You care enough to write, but not to enough to put in any real thought to clarify your position.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: Signeg] * 1
    #23386426 - 06/27/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't expect you would understand anything i say




That is a most unusual assumption, especially from one who cannot differentiate an adverb from a verb.

However, you have yet to make a valid point and have not presented a single clear proposition for anyone to understand.


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Re: Must a scientist be an atheist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23386427 - 06/27/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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