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 potatopopper
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 Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? 
#23385529 - 06/26/16 08:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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so everything was going good until today i checked out my progress and discovered this!!
Edited by potatopopper (06/26/16 08:30 PM)
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 Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: potatopopper]
#23385532 - 06/26/16 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pics or it didn't happen
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Ninja edit 
Condensation happened on my jars and they turned out fine. From my experience I would say it's normal and nothing to worry about
As long as there's no discolouration of course
Metabolites will be a yellow colour and usually indicate some sort of bacterial infection
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potatopopper
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: potatopopper]
#23385540 - 06/26/16 08:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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is that water/condensation going to contaminate my jar? also where did it come from? it wasn't there till today i believe
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ComebackKid
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: potatopopper]
#23385565 - 06/26/16 08:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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potatopopper said:
is that water/condensation going to contaminate my jar? also where did it come from? it wasn't there till today i believe
Your sub mix has moisture in it from when you made it. Condensation happens from temp difference outside your jar. Is there a heat source near your jar?
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23385578 - 06/26/16 08:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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no its in a closet but the weather was up today and the temp went around mid 80s to low 90s, are my babies going to be okay?
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23385632 - 06/26/16 08:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The mycelium itself is a heat source during colonization. So if your environment is cooler or warmer than the jar itself then condensation occurs. Mycelium is several degrees warmer than the environment anyways, which is why incubators are not really needed in this hobby unless you have unfavorable temperatures below the mid to low 60s. Your jars will be fine if you stay within 65-80. Anything above that and you are pushing your luck with it becoming contaminated.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: potatopopper]
#23385721 - 06/26/16 09:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great advice above.
Also when your jars are done with colonization, you'll see the cake pull away from the glass during the consolidation period.
It's normal, just try not to move your jars around too much when they reach this point. Your dry verm barrier which harbors contams can fall down into it.
You're a few weeks away but this is what I'm rambling about.
^ The tape above is for marking purposes so please don't confuse it with some kind of filter or something.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23385923 - 06/26/16 10:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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CosmoKramer said:
The mycelium itself is a heat source during colonization. So if your environment is cooler or warmer than the jar itself then condensation occurs. Mycelium is several degrees warmer than the environment anyways, which is why incubators are not really needed in this hobby unless you have unfavorable temperatures below the mid to low 60s. Your jars will be fine if you stay within 65-80. Anything above that and you are pushing your luck with it becoming contaminated.
Sooooo whose puppet are you?
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Inocuole]
#23385954 - 06/26/16 10:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure if this an insult or an actual question? I'm not a puppet or some alter ego if that's what you're insinuating.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23385979 - 06/26/16 10:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not an insult, it's just that usually when people come in, have 15 posts per day right off the bat, and are giving advice like they've been here a while, it's because they've been here a while.  Of course if this were a puppet account admitting it certainly wouldn't be on the agenda so now I'm not sure why I bothered asking..
If you're not puppeteering, then thanks for your contributions. If you are, then, try a little harder maybe? That's all.
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Inocuole]
#23386017 - 06/26/16 10:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol no worries. Ive been visiting here for many o years. No pro or TC level by any means. A typical paranoid person I suppose, but I finally wanted to help share and continue to learn. I posted in the pub so I wouldnt litter this subforum with another rambling.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23377099/page/1
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23386030 - 06/26/16 10:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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How do you go from lurking and getting all this done on your own to wanting to step in and spoonfeed people answers though? That takes like, either some strong willpower, character, or conviction or something. That's like having evolved to be able to breathe in space and deciding you'd rather hang out here while the world ends. I always thought the lurkers were the people who really had life figured out, knew better than to get sucked into answering goofy ass questions all the time. 
I'm half joking, but half not. You'll notice that's a trend with me, if you aren't already familiar.
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Inocuole]
#23386046 - 06/26/16 10:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh I know you. See I've been creeping through your mind all this time. Just a casual viewer that sits in that dark corner in a room with beady eyes.
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ComebackKid
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23386667 - 06/27/16 05:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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C'mon CosmoKramer
Can't you find better ways to waste your time on the forums, rather than spoonfeeding helpful, detailed advise and piece of mind to the noobs?.. get a life man
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23386683 - 06/27/16 06:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? *DELETED* [Re: Inocuole]
#23386747 - 06/27/16 06:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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HybridprX
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23386775 - 06/27/16 07:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eek! Trolls....
I've been active 10+ years and have seen this before....people arguing about the exact same process only slightly varied to produce the same results.
Makes perfect sense!
The jar looks fine and yes condensation is normal.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23386870 - 06/27/16 07:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
ComebackKid said:
C'mon CosmoKramer
Can't you find better ways to waste your time on the forums, rather than spoonfeeding helpful, detailed advise and piece of mind to the noobs?.. get a life man
I'll do what I want with MY time. And no, sarcasm and scrutiny won't run me off. Why are others concerned with what I'm doing or saying? I don't come on here to troll other users.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? *DELETED* [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23386875 - 06/27/16 07:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23386889 - 06/27/16 07:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah it seems pretty heavy these days lol. Hard to know what people are saying sometimes because I'm usually rather straight forward. Apologies if that wasn't intended as a kick in the nuts. Just trying to help ppl
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23386890 - 06/27/16 07:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
CosmoKramer said:
Oh I know you. See I've been creeping through your mind all this time. Just a casual viewer that sits in that dark corner in a room with beady eyes.
Soooo you're saying you are inocuole's puppet? jk I don't give a fuck who you are, you give good advice. I'm glad you're here. Welcome.
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Bunji Fungi]
#23386944 - 06/27/16 08:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks! I know some of the users on here some personality wise, others not so much. I'll have to adjust to the ones that I don't recognize. Ive spent all my years behind the search button, so I haven't interacted enough on here I suppose. Plus this past year or so I've been super busy. I don't want to be a know it all or anything, but I know what it feels like when starting out on something new and having questions. Now if we can get noobs to search before asking that would eliminate thousands of threads.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23387042 - 06/27/16 08:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
CosmoKramer said:
Yeah it seems pretty heavy these days lol. Hard to know what people are saying sometimes because I'm usually rather straight forward. Apologies if that wasn't intended as a kick in the nuts. Just trying to help ppl
Sorry dude, it was meant to be light hearted and a deliberately hipocritical post. I hear ya tho these threads are the wrong place for my sarcastic ass comments. Keep doin your thing. It's people like you that I appreciate the most when answering my own questions being a noob myself
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Our individual experiences are all part of the universe's experience of itself
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23387061 - 06/27/16 08:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No worries. Im going to have start smoking early so I'm not on edge.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? *DELETED* [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23387083 - 06/27/16 09:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23387692 - 06/27/16 01:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ah those days. life threw me a curve ball, so now it's just whenever I get the chance. Then it's on. Lol
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23388443 - 06/27/16 05:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MycoLoopology said:
i dont exaggerate when i say ive been at this 10 years.
That's longer than I've been at it. What gives?
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MycoLoopology said:
yeah it was only 2 1/2 hours maybe. its down to 76.5 now so im feeling a little better :p still dont like doing that to my jars if i can help it... its too much to go to waste!
Someone who's been growing for 10 years usually doesn't freak out about temps going up to 85 and potentially ruining some WBS. No offense, the pieces just don't line up.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? *DELETED* [Re: Inocuole]
#23388553 - 06/27/16 06:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23388585 - 06/27/16 06:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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To be fair there simply was not very much good information even 6 years ago. The community here has changed and evolved into something else that has streamlined the learning process for those who can handle it. You could look at all the dumb shit I said in my first post and see that nobody corrected any of it. I got half ass "sure do whatever you want" kind of answers and I mucked around doing jack shit for years because I never felt prodded to do any better.
Now I've noticed people nowadays get awful whiny and defensive sometimes if you prod them to do better. The ones that don't are the ones I tend to spend extra time helping though. If only people here were the hardasses they are now, back when the userbase could really take a good thrashing and bounce back like nothing... could've been glorious.
Might sound like I've taken a shot at you but testing people's resolve is something I accidentally do all the time, kudos for not taking it personally. You just get a totally different view of this place and the posters after you've read enough threads, it's weird.
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#23388611 - 06/27/16 06:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23388624 - 06/27/16 06:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's the idea... Can't take a little text on a screen, you will really not like the punishments for felonies.
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Inocuole]
#23389124 - 06/27/16 09:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
That's the idea... Can't take a little text on a screen, you will really not like the punishments for felonies.
Come on Inocuole..some people on here might like it in the butt. Lol. You are right though, stuff has changed so much on here information wise. Sometimes I have to remind myself that guys like RR can be wrong and over time new ideas pop up, things get tested by someone else with different knowledge and end up with different results. I haven't mastered the sarcasm yet because Ive only used this site for info and reference in the past. I can feel it coming on though..same questions over and over being asked. 
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23389231 - 06/27/16 09:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eh most of RR's info is still pretty good. He just doesn't have any quotes about most of the recent stuff people have been doing here.
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Inocuole]
#23389258 - 06/27/16 09:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fully agree! He helped build the bridge back then. Wonder what his ganja farm looks like now a days? Damn I'm starting to feel bad.. This is my first thread hijacking.
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23389272 - 06/27/16 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Again, looking back, I'd be glad if people hijacked my threads and talked about stuff that could clue me in to goings-on.
Here's some of the replies to my first thread:
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Umeltin said:
i dont want to give you bad advice so i wont tell you not to use a glovebox, but i always inoculate in open air. and ive never had a contam in a jar. so you should be ok aslong as everything was sterilized and sanitized.
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chrissake said:
My guess is that with self-healing inoculation ports, you probably don't have to worry much.
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Driver said:
idk about the gypsum(never used it), but when u spawn ur jars to ur coir/verm/gypsum, add some freshly spent coffee grounds to give myc a boost
Folks got it easy these days.
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Does mycelia/mycelium cause water droplets or condensation? [Re: Inocuole]
#23389312 - 06/27/16 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha. Maybe that's where I've been all this time. Lost in threads so to speak. Weeding out good info from the bad. However I didn't start this hobby with the intentions of most people that come on here asking goofy questions..like why they are having problems growing cakes in a tub that has a few wonky holes drilled and put up in a closed closet.
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