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Angelo
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Guys I really need some help
#23385330 - 06/26/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey guys, so I really need some help. I am using a rye grain substrate on quart jars. The mycelium has colonised the whole substrate, my problem is that it will not fall out of the jar as a cake and is stuck. I am trying to fruit the rye grain as a cake, kind of like a BRF cake. I know this is strange, I have heard a lot of people say you should use cassing when using rye grain as a substrate, but this being my first grow I wanted to make it as easy as possible and I have also had people say that you can fruit them as a cake. What should I do ? Should I just leave the mycelium and substrate in the jar and let the shrooms grown from inside the jar ? Is this optimal ? Will it work if I try this ? And how often should I mist the mycelium ? I have heard 6 times a day is optimal...is this okay ? Any help would be really appreciated, thx
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: Angelo]
#23385359 - 06/26/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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you should break it up and put it into a mono with bucket tek'd CVG. Pretty darn easy, and it'll be better than breaking the glass to make a cake that will dry out too much, because you don't want to case it.  Just sayin'.
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: dankington]
#23385373 - 06/26/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I doubt you'll have much success fruiting that as a cake...dankington is giving you great advice. I second it.
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CosmoKramer
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Yes unless you had already planned invitro then you might not have the correct GE lids for it to pin. Smack it on a tire and break it up then spawn to a bulk sub mono style or make a sgfc tray. Grains alone will not hold enough moisture to fruit as a cake. You'll need to mix it with something that retains moisture like verm and coir as mentioned above.
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Edited by CosmoKramer (06/26/16 09:54 PM)
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Angelo
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23388119 - 06/27/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thx for the advice guys, I am going to try growing it as is...hopefully this works, if not I will go for the coco choir and vermiculite mixture on my second grow. I am pretty sure growing it this way should b fine, I have read a lot of forum posts about people who forgot they inoculated jars with rye grain substrates, comeing back a few months later and finding ingrown mushrooms. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I water spray it about 6 times a day, so hopefully that makes up for the loss of moisture. Cheers for the advice guys.
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: Angelo]
#23388135 - 06/27/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's called invitro fruiting and is used for grain bags not jars... grain dries out fairly quickly on its own so the flushes suffer from lack of moisture.
2-3 times misting a day is normal...6 is excessive. If it's a mono style grow then it's self humidified
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: HybridprX]
#23388484 - 06/27/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
HybridprX said: It's called invitro fruiting and is used for grain bags not jars...

  
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HybridprX
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: Inocuole]
#23388606 - 06/27/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok....so you like fruiting from jars.
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: HybridprX]
#23388614 - 06/27/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Um.... Did you not just finish saying that invitro fruiting was not done in jars, for some reason?
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: Inocuole]
#23389163 - 06/27/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23389187 - 06/27/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Case it to prevent drying. Fruit in a sgfc, or gh if you already have one. I Loosen the lid til pinning, then fashion a dome or piece of plastic. Treat it like a bottle sub basically.
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Angelo
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: Grey]
#23391855 - 06/28/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grey, what is sgfc or a gh...I have not heard those terms before. I am misting it about 3-4 times a day, I lifted the lid off the jar and am just making sure it gets enough moisture to grow invitro.
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Re: Guys I really need some help [Re: Angelo]
#23391934 - 06/28/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sgfc = Shotgun fruiting chamber, gh = greenhouse. They're just fruiting chambers.
If your leaving the lid on you probably shouldn't need to mist so much. Invitro doesn't usually lose moisture that fast.
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