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Consistant Fanning on mono's
    #23384108 - 06/26/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

So I'm not new to mono-tub  bulk grows but,  I'm currently working more than I used to so I'm away from my babies more often.  So I fan as much as I can but was wondering if any of you on here have any tubs with a fan setup or anything like that.  Any great advice you can give would be AWESOME! 
For the record the strains I'm currently cultivating are:
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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23384117 - 06/26/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Why are you fanning a mono?


Run a small fan in the room directed away from the tubs to just move a little air or if your room has a ceiling fan just turn it on low.


If it's too much fae then tighten your holes or turn the fan down


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: maddchef]
    #23384130 - 06/26/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Was always told to do so but yeah no ceiling fan.  just a box fan,  was thinking about a 3x3 setup on my wall and putting the box fan in the middle so its enclosed between the 6 total.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23384155 - 06/26/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You really don't need much air. Mono's create their own currents by temp differential and humid vs non humid air.

Not to the extent of a sgfc but if you need to manually fan your tubs you made them too wet or your poly is too tight. If you find you need to mist well then the opposite


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: maddchef]
    #23386661 - 06/27/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

So I found out my poly-fil was unevenly stuffed,  had to work last night so that's why the posts stopped.  But I'm about to rework them though...
Thanks again,  will post pics when its back up official like!:wink:


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23386901 - 06/27/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If you are having to fan your monos more than one or two times a day then something is wrong. Even then I would only say it's needed if you live in a really humid area with 70+ RH. Loosen that poly up for sure. Just as maddchef said a little air movement is needed around the area, but not much.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23386935 - 06/27/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A mono is supposed to be set and forget. Most don't fan monos, only mist occasionally or more depending on the flush. Instead of having to fan your monos, why not just loosen the poly instead?  A well dialed mono doesn't need to be fanned, regardless of RH. Where I live, we get constant 90%+ humidity in summer, I still don't fan my monos. If anything, I would rather remove the poly from the top holes than having to fan.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23386959 - 06/27/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah all I do is open them once a day to mist (after the 1st or 2nd flush is over). When I used a fan it dried everything out really bad. For my climate and grow room, stuffing the bottom 4 as tight as humanly possible and very loose on the top was the last thing I did to dial in my tub.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Perception7]
    #23387033 - 06/27/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I prefer to stuff all my holes with same density poly. I like to give my shrooms a little extra FAE as well, makes for great pinsets if you can keep up with the misting.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23387037 - 06/27/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I prefer to stuff all my holes with same density poly. I like to give my shrooms a little extra FAE as well, makes for great pinsets if you can keep up with the misting.




Do you stuff medium all around?


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23387048 - 06/27/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, works pretty good for me and I find it easier than tight&loose.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23387073 - 06/27/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Cool! I've got 2 monos that are almost ready. I've read the medium poly and fruit at spawn tek posts. Seems to be easier with good results. I just haven't tried it yet, so I'll give a whirl this time.


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    #23387074 - 06/27/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I used to run a fan in the room. Now I realize I was just wasting power. Dial er in and you don't need to do shit, including fans/fanning.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23387098 - 06/27/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Cool! I've got 2 monos that are almost ready. I've read the medium poly and fruit at spawn tek posts. Seems to be easier with good results. I just haven't tried it yet, so I'll give a whirl this time.




I mostly switched because I found it hard to dial them in perfectly in one try when I was stuffing tight&loose. If you are used to your method, you have no reason to switch really. It is basically the same, you could even fruit right after spawning with tight&loose poly, if that is what you were after.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Mad Season]
    #23387102 - 06/27/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Damn fellas thanks for all the great info.  Always good to get advice from others.  When I started years ago a buddy took me through most of the ins & outs of mono-tubing.  But I see a lot of his advice was either wrong or out dated.  But I've still achieved some pretty fantastic flushes but always looking to go better!
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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23387109 - 06/27/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

im with most of the guys above. i personally like to stuff the bottom holes extra tight, and the top holes light/medium. seems to yield the best results for me. i tried medium all around in the beginning. still worked, just not AS well i thought. but i was less experienced as well.

as for a fan. i either place one in the room on the opposite side facing sort perpendicular to the tubs so as not to be directly at them. or diagonally from right next to them(like frank seems to do in some of his photos). both have worked just fine for me. a nice cycle of air throughout the room has to help with FAE though imo. (my fan was set to a timer 15min on 1hr45min off.)


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23387250 - 06/27/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Now that I think about the only times I've ever had to manually fan my monos is when I over misted a bit. It happens but other than that as long as you have decent FAE and some circulation in the area. Like supalemonhaze  said, should be a set and forget method. Everything can be adjusted or dialed in with poly, tub placement, and occasional misting.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23390756 - 06/28/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"Update"  So I re stuffed my poly-fil and things picked up significantly!  Cheers to you all for helping a member out.  Don't know why I slacked on the poly-fil stuffing but eh? Sometimes shit happens but glad I didn't ruin my crop.
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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23390899 - 06/28/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just keep eye for evaporation rings around the poly. Should start seeing them increase in size rather fast if you have it dialed in correctly. If not just loosen them a bit more.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23390907 - 06/28/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks my dude I definitely will.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23391047 - 06/28/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

cant wait to have something like that going myself! good job so far buddy :laugh:


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23391151 - 06/28/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Appreciate it homie,  I've got some going in trays in my SGFC's too.  pretty decent as well.
Can't wait to see how your multiple bulks go dude.  Post pics when you can!:cool:


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23391218 - 06/28/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't they be off the wall? Around 1-1.5 feet? Also, why didn't you even out your sub? Any particular reason?


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: just_curious]
    #23391222 - 06/28/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

But that's a great multiple set up you've got there. That's gonna produce a shit load!


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23391335 - 06/28/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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"Update"  So I re stuffed my poly-fil and things picked up significantly!  Cheers to you all for helping a member out.  Don't know why I slacked on the poly-fil stuffing but eh? Sometimes shit happens but glad I didn't ruin my crop.
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Your sub looks kinda thin.  Expect short shrooms.  Now that you are getting better airflow you might want to mist more to keep up.  I just did a mono with a 3 inch sub and the edges turned yellow so I had to mist it 3 times a day.  I misted until everything glistened and within a couple of hours the sub absorbed it. 
My point is that since you have a thin sub you may have to mist.  If the sub doesnt have any water droplets or visible moisture you may need to mist.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Kenetic]
    #23391511 - 06/28/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Your sub looks kinda thin.  Expect short shrooms.





That's not how it works. Some of my best subs were actually just under 2"

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Now that you are getting better airflow you might want to mist more to keep up.  I just did a mono with a 3 inch sub and the edges turned yellow so I had to mist it 3 times a day.  I misted until everything glistened and within a couple of hours the sub absorbed it.




sounds like your monos weren't dialed in well, actually. The only tubs I'll mist once or twice a day are often thin subs of a penis variety.

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My point is that since you have a thin sub you may have to mist.  If the sub doesnt have any water droplets or visible moisture you may need to mist.




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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: dankington]
    #23392017 - 06/28/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah this time I shortened the amount of sub I had so they'd colonize faster but I don't think the yield will be effected in anyway...  The mushrooms that have pooped have been about general size.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23392045 - 06/28/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

spawn and ratio plays a bigger role than thickness does. Thinner subs dry out faster, but they can really be optimal IME. 1.75"-2.5"seems pretty perfect a lot of times.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: dankington]
    #23392052 - 06/28/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

2nd-3rd flush is when you'll usually see the bigger fruits. I run smaller subs too, so kenetic is right on the misting. You'll see an increase in the need to mist fairly soon in the first flush compared to a deeper sub level.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23392067 - 06/28/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I understand that but I had to stretch materials out on this run so I couldn't really afford to.  But the subs are about on average 1/75 to 2 on this run... Probably closer to 1/75 though.

just wish I could've cased my envy's on this run!:frown:
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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23392426 - 06/28/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Oh it's PE? Should've really be cased, man. But it should be okay. Probably get a whole lot of blobs your first flush, for sure.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: dankington]
    #23392435 - 06/28/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In the mean time... Prep more spawn
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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23392738 - 06/29/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Blobs for sure(already got em').  But second flush should be golden.
And I'll be making more sub tomorrow or next day more PE to birth,  will be casing with jiffy mix or will any seed starter be okay? first time using any kind of seed starter.


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Re: Consistant Fanning on mono's [Re: Toad83]
    #23392758 - 06/29/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Jiffy is basically peat and verm, if you find another starting mix with the same ingredients, it's fine to use.


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