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PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do?
    #23383857 - 06/26/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I have been following the PF Tek to a tee. Since the 27th of May, My jars have been colonizing. I looked at the Malabar strain today to find this:



OTHER SIDE:


OTHER MALABAR:


OTHER SIDE:


I would absolutely appreciate if someone could help give me an Idea of my next step of action. Do I wait for the rest to colonize? do I birth them today and pick the Pins and wash under a faucet and then Dunk & Roll? I am very confused and wondering why they have started to pin. (They have had the tinfoil lid removed and the mason jar lid untightened for air exchange and they've been incubating in a room with ambient light. No contams visible.)

Please help a guy looking to succeed at his first grow :smile:

Also I have Coir and Verm if I should spawn to bulk. . . .


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: PurpleHaz]
    #23383885 - 06/26/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

looks like your verm layer shifted or something. also, these are the tall 1/2pints, so sometimes those stall on the way to the bottom. but are you saying that it isnt 100% because of the side, up top?

if so, that may just be your verm layer, that shifted. im gonna take a guess and say you ordered these premade, right?

when my jars(also tall ones) pinned before 100%, i just went ahead and birthed them, and rinsed the uncolonized sub off, picked the pins off, nad did the normal dunk/roll and fruit in SGFC.

so, if you decide to do that, make sure you give that jar a REALLY good smell, to make sure that isnt contam up top. sometimes jars pin early before 100% because of contam. os just make sure.

EDIT - also, seeing as how it's been a month since inoc, im leaning towards that uncolonized part being verm, that either slid down the side, covering the colonized cake to where you cant see it, or that it just shifted(possibly during the shipment if they are premade).


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23383911 - 06/26/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You are right I did order them premade. And yeah they are 1/2 pint jars. Yes I figured they weren't 100% yet. Would you say it'd be safe to go ahead and birth 'em and then smell -> dunk -> roll in dry verm ? I appreciate your response, you are the kind of person I was looking for. You definately seem to know this situation so thanks for helping me out!


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: PurpleHaz]
    #23383930 - 06/26/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, same thing happened to me, my first batch of jars(pretty sure i got em from same vendor). they are 1/2pint which is right for the tek, but they are the tall ones, instead of wide ones. i DIY all mine now, and its so much easier, cheaper, and i have had much less contam. during shipping, the verm layer shifts a lot. I even used the same jars they gave me when i made my own, and they still didnt stall or contam. its just way easier/better to DIY. and it isnt hard at all.

and yeah, i would prolly just go ahead and birth them, rinse the uncolonized(or verm) off and dunk/roll/SGFC as normal. definitely make an SGFC, though. if i know the place you got those from, their tub is almost useless as is. i got a different one. works so much better.


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23383957 - 06/26/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I've made a SGFC and I've got so much Perlite its not even funny.

SGFC:


Do you think I should remove the pins before I rinse under the tap? And would you think I should roll after dunk or not? I've heard P Cubensis doesn't need that casing on the Cake.

Also one of these two has a little spot on the bottom of the jar that isn't colonized yet.


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: PurpleHaz]
    #23383977 - 06/26/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

looking alright. did you make holes on all six sides? it needs them on all sides.

and yeah i always take the pins off when i birth, because mine have suualy aborted anyways if not. then you dunk for 24hrs, and yes roll it in verm. it doesnt necessarily NEED it, but it helps a LOT.


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23383991 - 06/26/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks soul brother I truly appreciate your response. I'll go ahead and submerge 'em in fresh water for 24 hours. And yeah my SGFC has holes on all sides. :amanitajar:


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: PurpleHaz]
    #23384004 - 06/26/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

cool deal. :thumbup:


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23384092 - 06/26/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

AWESOME. So I birthed the two Malabar strain Jars and smelt them thouroughly and they smelt exactly like fresh mushrooms do (Lawn Mushrooms, Store Bought Agaricus) so i'm guessing that's a good sign. I rinsed them under the faucet and slightly rubbed the dry verm off and it looked fully colonized! They even birthed very easily! I used colder than room temp water and dunked 'em and put a plate in to submerge them for 24 hours. Things are going well. I picked off three very small pins. I can't wait until the actual Fruit bodies grow out! So damn excited :laugh:


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: PurpleHaz]
    #23384182 - 06/26/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Like stated above, it does appear the dry verm layer shifted.

But when they do pin before full colonization it is possibly due to a contamination.... in my experience usually bacterial.


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #23384187 - 06/26/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

good, then it seems that that was, in fact, just verm that had fallen over the colonized cake. so seems like it was at 100% colonization, so everything should be alright. good luck on the rest =]


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23384251 - 06/26/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the help :laugh: Just feasted on some of the verm/mycelium that had fallen off while rinsing, tastes like fresh p Cubensis :trippinbawelz:


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Re: PINNING BEFORE 100%?? what to do? [Re: PurpleHaz]
    #23384274 - 06/26/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ew...


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