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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: millzy] 1
#23388452 - 06/27/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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millzy said: i think the biggest question regarding the brexit and the shroomery is if its supporters can answer objections without arguing beside the point or employing straw men.
Can the non-supporters do the same?
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: millzy]
#23388456 - 06/27/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I joked with my mum about when she's being deported (She's Belgian), she didn't see the funny side of it.
I see this topic quickly turned into a "Muslims r cunts, innit" thread.
Blacks, Chinese, other Europeans, North Americans, they come here, and pretty much adapt to our culture and embrace it, and you can find them all in the pub (which is the epicentre of English/British Isles culture).
Won't find muslims there. They do not integrate, and someone keeps on radicalising them, stirring them up like Cromwell stirred up Puritanical Prodestantism.
Oh, and whilst I, and others, bang on about how corrupt our law and politics are, fuck sharia law. https://fullfact.org/law/uks-sharia-courts/
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: koods] 2
#23388461 - 06/27/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: So countless personal reports of racism in Britain right after brexit is just a coincidence?
We live in a world where people are stupid enough to consider 'Muslim' a race. Why would they suddenly become smarter?
Fine. It's xenophobia, not racism.
"It's xenophobia"
"In the case of xenophobia, the fear is irrational" https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/xenophobia
I'm sure many of the voters considered their fear of migrants/Muslims to be rational for a long list of economic, social, and cultural reasons based on real life experiences.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: qman]
#23388495 - 06/27/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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millzy said: i think the biggest question regarding the brexit and the shroomery is if its supporters can answer objections without arguing beside the point or employing straw men.
Can the non-supporters do the same? 
i haven't seen any objections along those lines. show me some examples. i could've missed something.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: koods] 2
#23388538 - 06/27/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: So countless personal reports of racism in Britain right after brexit is just a coincidence?
We live in a world where people are stupid enough to consider 'Muslim' a race. Why would they suddenly become smarter?
Fine. It's xenophobia, not racism.
I 100% understand why you think that. Then again, it's still not the proper term for it. It's not a fear of foreigners. It's frustration. The British have always been the colonizer and rulers. Not only have they decided their own faith for several centuries, they also had the faith of anyone under their sovereignty for most of that time too. Then they agreed to relinquish parts of their soveirgnity to the EU under the promise that it would benefit them. It was propbably true at first. The countries they allied with were are similarlry rich and had similar looking futures ahead of them.
Then every other nation in Europe wanted in. Problem is, most of the rest of Europe is poorer and it promises more equality. Instead what it created is mass immigration from poor country to rich country and since jobs don't miraculously appear on the market, it pissed the locals because getting a job would be harder and it would increase the demand from people who worked at half your salary. One side loses people and the other side becomes a lactating tit of money.
Therefore. I doesn't work.
The original EU would have been very strong. The rest of the countrie should have allied themselves together and grow in order to become better and then ask to join the EU. IMO of course.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23388556 - 06/27/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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since when does whites hating whites equal racism
The Christian race is entitled to hate on the Muslim race.
BRITS OUT(of eu)
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Patlal]
#23388817 - 06/27/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Fine. It's xenophobia, not racism.
I 100% understand why you think that. Then again, it's still not the proper term for it. It's not a fear of foreigners. It's frustration. The British have always been the colonizer and rulers. Not only have they decided their own faith for several centuries, they also had the faith of anyone under their sovereignty for most of that time too. Then they agreed to relinquish parts of their soveirgnity to the EU under the promise that it would benefit them. It was propbably true at first. The countries they allied with were are similarlry rich and had similar looking futures ahead of them.
Then every other nation in Europe wanted in. Problem is, most of the rest of Europe is poorer and it promises more equality. Instead what it created is mass immigration from poor country to rich country and since jobs don't miraculously appear on the market, it pissed the locals because getting a job would be harder and it would increase the demand from people who worked at half your salary. One side loses people and the other side becomes a lactating tit of money.
Therefore. I doesn't work.
The original EU would have been very strong. The rest of the countrie should have allied themselves together and grow in order to become better and then ask to join the EU. IMO of course.
You know, I'd go one further. Lessay, there was a large central government for just France and the UK.
Farming conditions in Aquitaine are going to be very different to farming conditions in Northumberland, a common agricultural policy would be at best a compromise, at worst, it'd discrimate in favour of one farming region/climate.
Then there's the whole fiasco of where, what and how you can fish (not the waters around your coast, lol. Oh, you caught haddock but your quota was for snapper? Throw all that dead haddock back into the sea or loose your fishing license)
I'm hoping in the future to see futher devolution of power, less centralisation. I'm sure it's the same in your country but there are local policies that favour one section of the country (south) at the loss of another (noth). This is just in England.
I'd prefer a system where there'd be three governmental regions, south, midlands, north, with (if still necessary with teleconferencing) government centers in London, Birmingham and Manchester, respectively. Not that they need to be based in major cities, all the amenities they need could be found in any town up and down the land.
Then again, this is all based on the idea that governments help economy. Which they can by imposing tariffs (benefiting some at the loss of others, sometimes worth it if trying to build up industry) or usually, stepping aside when needed to allow small businesses not to be overburned with paperwork, and telling large corporations to fuck off when pushing for more regulation. Regulation benefits large businesses, they can have full time HR staff to deal with all the make-work paperwork. Small businesses are often 2 or 3 people, many of which either hire a part time bookkeeper or, in my case, me, to deal with that paperwork, so they can focus on actually doing business and making things to sell.
But anyway, back to racism. Here in England we pride ourselves on being the best racists in the world with the nicest cars. If you don't like that, then you don't like our culture. In which case, fuck right off.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: TioWWW999]
#23388937 - 06/27/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: I know you mostly just troll, but I feel like that was a genuine response based on the fact that you don't know what the word "credal" means.
any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination.
There you go copy and pasted straight out of the dictionary
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#23389319 - 06/27/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Sticky Green]
#23389554 - 06/27/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#23389567 - 06/27/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: I know you mostly just troll, but I feel like that was a genuine response based on the fact that you don't know what the word "credal" means.
any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination.
There you go copy and pasted straight out of the dictionary
Copy + paste doesn't = understanding
appealing to the dictionary is also kind of retarded.
just saying.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Penelope_Tree] 1
#23389677 - 06/28/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Penelope_Tree said: So, it looks like some who voted to leave were confused on who was leaving what. 
Exactly.
I didn't hear 1 logical reason why to vote at all from either side.
The vast majority have seen this as some sort of attempt to "get our country back" because in the past 40 years we've had open borders. Its a total fucking joke, we can't change the past 40 years now - way way way to late.
The result of this shit is OFC that all the racists came out. They we're always here and you have them in your countries too.
Most these people have NO IDEA what they we're even voting on at all. They did 0 study into the possible ramifications of this and voted based on their emotions over our historical open immigration policy. The onl;y real obvious flaw in all of this is that we can't change the past 40 years.
Meanwhile we look like a total bunch of assholes to the rest of the world because of a few hate preaching radicals. Make no mistake, white or muslim if you shouting classist/racist/natiolist shite like these guys then you are using political hate speech.
I'm not ashamed by the UK I'm ashamed by humanity in whole and the level of thoughtlessness and maliciousness still rife in our own species on our own planet. What a sad sad pathetic bunch of creatures we are.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Visionary Tools]
#23389693 - 06/28/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: I joked with my mum about when she's being deported (She's Belgian), she didn't see the funny side of it.
I see this topic quickly turned into a "Muslims r cunts, innit" thread.
Blacks, Chinese, other Europeans, North Americans, they come here, and pretty much adapt to our culture and embrace it, and you can find them all in the pub (which is the epicentre of English/British Isles culture).
Won't find muslims there. They do not integrate
Maybe they just aren't drunken worthless trash like you people? Oh no they don't drink, are you fucking joking? I pop in a pub for a pint or two when I am over there but you people can't control your drinking and it's embarrassing for me as a white person. You should be embarrassed by your drunken louts instead of whining other people don't drink.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: my3rdeye] 1
#23389698 - 06/28/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah you people, you human people, I can't stand people either.
Nice1 power. i am the only logical human you should all be deported into space.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: my3rdeye] 3
#23389772 - 06/28/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: I joked with my mum about when she's being deported (She's Belgian), she didn't see the funny side of it.
I see this topic quickly turned into a "Muslims r cunts, innit" thread.
Blacks, Chinese, other Europeans, North Americans, they come here, and pretty much adapt to our culture and embrace it, and you can find them all in the pub (which is the epicentre of English/British Isles culture).
Won't find muslims there. They do not integrate
Maybe they just aren't drunken worthless trash like you people? Oh no they don't drink, are you fucking joking? I pop in a pub for a pint or two when I am over there but you people can't control your drinking and it's embarrassing for me as a white person. You should be embarrassed by your drunken louts instead of whining other people don't drink.
Says you shouldn't generalize an entire group of people in the Muslim world based on some their actions ....... Proceeds to generalize the entire British population
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: Bubbles85] 2
#23389784 - 06/28/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: I joked with my mum about when she's being deported (She's Belgian), she didn't see the funny side of it.
I see this topic quickly turned into a "Muslims r cunts, innit" thread.
Blacks, Chinese, other Europeans, North Americans, they come here, and pretty much adapt to our culture and embrace it, and you can find them all in the pub (which is the epicentre of English/British Isles culture).
Won't find muslims there. They do not integrate
Maybe they just aren't drunken worthless trash like you people? Oh no they don't drink, are you fucking joking? I pop in a pub for a pint or two when I am over there but you people can't control your drinking and it's embarrassing for me as a white person. You should be embarrassed by your drunken louts instead of whining other people don't drink.
Says you shouldn't generalize an entire group of people in the Muslim world based on some their actions ....... Proceeds to generalize the entire British population 
Also notice the ones that voted out are the people that were over age 60 and knew what life was with and without the EU? I spoke to them and most of them regretted voting in to join the EU. But of course they're rayciss and sexist old people who never done shit for us according to them.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: TioWWW999] 2
#23389795 - 06/28/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exactly. Many good people fought and died for this country in 2 World Wars, to uphold our freedoms and democracy.
Why the fuck should we willingly hand it all over to Brussels and the Germans today!
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: TioWWW999]
#23389796 - 06/28/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, they remember the days when the blacks and pakis "knew their place." It's the same over here. They reminisce for the days when white people had all the power.
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: koods] 3
#23389804 - 06/28/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh shut up koods ....
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Re: Brexit doing wonders for British racists' confidence [Re: koods] 2
#23389807 - 06/28/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: No, they remember the days when the blacks and pakis "knew their place." It's the same over here. They reminisce for the days when white people had all the power.
You don't live in the UK just to start with and that's just so wrong to think that. I guess all old people people shouldn't vote? So everyone who served for our country to solidify a future for us shouldn't vote now because their different opinions and life experiences are rayciss?
*Calls everyone a fascist because they have a different opinion*
*Says old people shouldn't vote because most were pro leave*
Sums up Pro EU millennials
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