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6am pancakes
#23382874 - 06/26/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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As i get ready to greet my grandparents with lovely 6am pancakes and a head full of acid i have a few questions regarding the plan of my next voyage.
Im going to step through the door next time I dose. I know there is no way to prepare yourself for the experience and ive NEVER had a trip sitter for the +20 experiences i have had so far. The maximum tabs ive ever taken is 2.
I want to take 5. Now these are primo street hits. Id say 100-150ug easy. What is it like? Stepping through the door? Staring insanity in the eye with nobody to catch you in the background? I plan to take this dose alone.
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I've never done acid unfortunately...but 6am pancakes sound so fucking good. I'm just here for the title.
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Now last time i went for a dose like this it was borderline breakthrough. 5grams cubes dried. Needless to say i couldnt handle it, ran out of my house at 4am to a friends house desperately crying saying that im dying and needed water. Really bad trip. Turned me off of shrooms
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Kush_Zombie said: I've never done acid unfortunately...but 6am pancakes sound so fucking good. I'm just here for the title.
See i knew how to bait you there i shoulda been a writer
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I think you could prepare for it by slowly increasing your dose from two hits to five, rather than jumping straight from two to five.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: healing]
#23382910 - 06/26/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That does sound like the more intelligable thing to do doesnt it lol?
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But i also dont want to pussy fart around. Tonights trip has shown me what my psyche wants needs and craves
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You don't know what five hits is. It could be that your psyche craves three hits. It could be that five hits is too much.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: healing]
#23382930 - 06/26/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its a whole nother monster man. Ive tripped a few dozen times and only took 3 up to this last wednesday...Took 2, some mdma little while later, once that was peaking i took 2 more. It was a blast but it was a waste the last 2.
You don't need a trip sitter, but they are helpful. My buddie and his GF each took 15 so I was technically the trip sitter that had a somewhat level head if shit got hairy.
A benzo on hand always helps, just knowing you have it eases the mind a bit.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: healing]
#23382936 - 06/26/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whoah dude. You have some pretty sound knowledge. Are you saying that "opening the door" is ambiguous to the psychedelic experience as far as dose goes? I know i did 2 hits tonight with 1 more tab on the trail end that just added to the duration. While the peak was indeed mindblowing and i had to indeed accept the fact i wasnt in control - im aiming for a little more. I want to be shown the light and be forced to submit. Are you telling me 3 tabs next time are gonna blow 2 outta the water if i give my tolerance a bit?
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I think 5 sounds reasonable for where i wanna go guise
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Ya, 3 is going to blow your 2 + 1 at the tailend out of the water. Anytime you redose, it extends the time. I think if you can manage to redose before the peak it will extend your peak and may intensify it a bit. I wouldn't do 5, 3 or 4 to start. Wait 1-2 hours and see how your feeling. Im sure you will be feeling pretty content with your initial dose. If anything, you can redose but it has to be pretty decent dose to increase the effects and not just prolong the trip.
I should also say, tolerance isn't the best. Its best to wait 1-2 weeks atleast between trips to avoid any tolerance issue. Ive always waiting atleast a week, but 2 weeks is the time I shoot for to know that my trip wont be effected by the previous one.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: LSDollar]
#23382958 - 06/26/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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4 is my lucky number. Do 4.
Let this be a message to you.
You've been warned
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new2shroomzz said: I think 5 sounds reasonable for where i wanna go guise
I think you'll be fine if you do five, but you wanted to know how to prepare for it. If you don't mind being unprepared, then just go for it.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: healing]
#23382979 - 06/26/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It would be nice to have a buddy there with you for a few hours until after your peak to make sure everything is hunky doorey. I always have benzos on hand but the only bad trips I have had is when I get a marijuana induced panic attack. No weed, no bad times. Its really weird, sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesnt. Im going to try 3 or 4 next trip. I am planning on dropping 3 or 4 on Monday before I go see a firework show.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: healing]
#23382988 - 06/26/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im heeding all advice and opinions seriously. Im.the naive one here thats about to get mushroom stamped by the psychedelic experience. So 4 hits. How do you advise preparing for the experience?
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Sorry to say but there will be no trip sitter. And i also do not have any benzos
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4 is actually what I thought too. That's what I've always used as a step up higher dose... That's when it starts to get really different.
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I know i want a revolutionary experience that is going to change me as a person. I dont care how bad it rattles me to the core. I want to commit and never be the same person again
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Yeah, well psychedelics may not be the best way to do that. If you want real change move to a country where you don't speak the language and immerse yourself in it until you understand what's going on. Then you will have experienced real change, you will be a wiser stronger person, totally different animal.
Psychedelics only show you yourself. Sure it's possible to fuck yourself up with them and never be the same again, but jumping in with large doses isn't going to provide any divine revelations. They are more easily found and understood with 200-300ug doses.
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Im just gonna eat my 4 hits in 2 weeks and shaddafuq up
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I know what I want for myself. I know what I want out of the psychedelic experience. Ive NEVER approached a trip without the mentality to take or learn a lesson from it. I feel destined for the dissolution of ego. Do you not think I'm going towards this with the right mentality?
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Have you never had ego loss before?
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new2shroomzz said: I know what I want for myself. I know what I want out of the psychedelic experience. Ive NEVER approached a trip without the mentality to take or learn a lesson from it. I feel destined for the dissolution of ego. Do you not think I'm going towards this with the right mentality?
I'm with you mate, I've loved taking acid for a long time on and off. It's really helped me in different parts of my life. I've loved high and low doses and all the interesting thoughts it opens up. I've used it just to party and listen to music also. Much fun. Ego dissolution is a strong experience, it can really make you re-evaluate everything, or not. Depends how you deal with it I guess. If you feel ready just jump in. I just wanted to let you know that it isn't a life changing drug unless you fuck yourself up on it, which you need a real high dose like more than a mg or to abuse it regularly to do that. It can be a catalyst for change, but that is a product of you. It doesn't make you anything you're not. Happy tripping brother, write us a report
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: healing]
#23383152 - 06/26/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nope. Last time I took a stab at an ego death it ended in a horrifying 5 gram cubesis trip. I mean, id still call that horrifying experience positive, but I don't think ive achieved it yet. Id know, right?
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Kush_Zombie said: 4 is my lucky number. Do 4.
Let this be a message to you.
You've been warned 
4 is my favorite number and always has been
Go with 4
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Im going with 4. Im eager for this experience but giving my body more than adequate rest, nutrition, and meditation to help prepare for the hell that might unveil when i decide to do this. My ego death attempt on shrooms spiraled out of control. I was in the middle of letting go when all of a sudden everything in my vision turned into fire and i felt myself slipping. I started freaking out bad. Ran out of the house at 4am in a mad sprint down the streets to a friends house crying groveling for water and breath thinking i was dying.
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And thats when i learned terrence mckennas 5 gram dose without sensory stimuli is no fucking shit to be fucking with when your only used to the occasional giggles of an eighth
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4-5 hits is no joke on no tolerance. Be prepared to see what creates the reality of your world.
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: Mike4aco]
#23383895 - 06/26/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I want to meet the operators of the divine conciousness. Yespls. Quick q. Can ambien be used as an alternative to benzos for a comfort abort button on a trip? Or mega bad idea like it sounds like?
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Judging by that response, good luck on your trip lol.
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Yeah not a good idea i got crickets. Ill use search engine next time
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Take all 4 at once. If it is good lsd it will be very intense when it comes on and you may begin to panic so it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a benzo around in case you need it. If you have tripped 20+ times that is the only thing that may catch you off guard in my opinion.
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What's up with the benzo? And what is a benzo? Ik it's a pill but that's all I know.
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Answer: Benzodiazepines are some of the most commonly used medications in psychiatry. They comprise a large family of medications with some of the more commonly used ones or things like lorazepam -- or Ativan -- clonazepam -- or Klonopin -- alprazolam -- or Xanax -- and diazepam -- or Valium.
They are for anxiety. I use xanax.
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Commonly used as an abort button for acid. Doesn't really stop you tripping but just takes away all the headfuck.
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Last month I ate 7 sour patch kids dosed with liquid. I had to take a xanax because it came on so strong that I panicked. Brought me right where I needed to be and I had a great trip. We watched that film Samsara and it was quite a journey.
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A few months back i ate 8 fire tabs... Blacked out less than an hour later 

Apparently I was still talking and stuff for a couple of hours before I passed out, but my memory starts again after about 6 hours when I woke up. Felt pretty numb for about a week, fucking tweaked my brain hard.
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If you've had over 20 trips and only managed to get up to 2 tabs, i really don't understand the rush to get to 4. In just a few more trips, you can easily figure out your response to higher doses as you slowly work your way up to your goal. If you were to just increase your dose by increments of 50 ug each trip until you hit it, you would be at 400 after just 3 trips, and if the prior trips were too intense, then it would be a better idea to set one of those doses as your limit, and if 400 doesn't end up getting you where you want to go, then you can try to increase by more increments of 50, or even 25 to be totally safe, to find where you want to be.
Also, as another person was saying, you should make certain that it is actually lsd before going to such a high dosage, to avoid awful side effects from an RC. It would probably be a good idea to get a test kit to be sure that it's what you're trying to take, and nothing else.
It's totally up to you if you want to dive right into it, and with the number of trips that you have under your belt, you're probably pretty familiar with whatever it will throw at you, but you have no clue what jumping to double your highest dosage will feel like, and It could very well end up worse than the 5 gram shroom trip that turned you off of tripping for a while. Building up to it slowly won't make it any less profound for you, and if anything should make it easier to understand and accept any insights that you gain from a higher dosage. It's completely your choice to make, but you have your entire life to build up to where you're trying to get to, and the only thing that's really being lost when gradually increasing is a tiny bit of the large amount of time that you have left to trip all that you want.
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Holy shit that sucks! Happens to the best of us. At least you didn't piss yourself like I did 2 weeks ago in a similar drunken mushie scenario. Roll with the punches and keep trippin!
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Re: 6am pancakes [Re: Mike4aco]
#23384552 - 06/26/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mike4aco said: 4-5 hits is no joke on no tolerance. "Be prepared to see what creates the reality of your world".
Well said. I like that.
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However i go about taking this next dose in 2-4 weeks I promise to tread carefully and plan and prepare maticulously. I dont have the conveniency of an abort button so whatever and however much of this divine chemical i ingest i will have to face the beast head on and accept the consequences of my actions. Ive read and read all day about avid LSD enthusiasfs such as myself dabbling in small doses and then going in for the kill to have a trainwreck experience and never touch a psychedelic again in their lives. Whether that is a positive thing is ambiguous and subjective but i promise to tread carefully guys. Ive been warned
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