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No casing layer for Penis envy...
    #23381784 - 06/25/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Hey Shroomery long time no post. So I'm doing multiple bulk runs right now a few of which is PE. But do to lack of casing ingredients I decided to spawn and fruit without it & in my experience it's worked out but I'm in a different location now & was just asking some advice.
I can post pics if need be.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Toad83]
    #23381847 - 06/25/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think you actually asked a question here.....but here is an example of Penis Envy I fruited with no casing layer:


Grown with spores....

Here is an example of a grow from spores from the same print as enough except this time we cased our tub with straight Jiffy Mix (available at Walmart)


And finally....here is what casing a PE isolate can do:


5$ buys you enough jiffy mix to case 5 or more tubs......use it...it works.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23381909 - 06/25/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man.  Yeah I didn't ask the question I meant to. Hahahaha. But I was going to ask how long did your non cased PE bulk take. I remember them taking a while but I'm on about 21/2weeks into the fruit stage & nothing yet.  But,  I think it may've taken about 20 days total so maybe I'm being a little impatient.  But on the other hand my Escondido's are about to be on there second flush... Great mushroom btw.  Plus my PFC classic is be a little slow on the upcome.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Toad83]
    #23381920 - 06/25/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

When I didn't case my penis envy it took 16 days to pin


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23381963 - 06/25/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Okay,  okay so I'm basically on the right track.  I just need to hang on.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23382138 - 06/25/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Mycologist217 said:
I don't think you actually asked a question here.....but here is an example of Penis Envy I fruited with no casing layer:


Grown with spores....

Here is an example of a grow from spores from the same print as enough except this time we cased our tub with straight Jiffy Mix (available at Walmart)


And finally....here is what casing a PE isolate can do:


5$ buys you enough jiffy mix to case 5 or more tubs......use it...it works.




That's crazy, especially the last picture.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: jds]
    #23382191 - 06/25/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Id lose my hands in there!  :nbk:


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: jds]
    #23382212 - 06/25/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

First flush, MS no casing (or eaten casing).


Second flush, MS no casing (or eaten casing).


First flush, Isolate or Clone with proper casing.


I believe I cased my first PE tub, but it wasn't done or consolidated properly. It was eaten by the dicks before fruiting.

There is no question. Most PE cultures need to be cased for best results. The clones and isolates blob just as bad as MS sometimes and also need to be cased. Maybe if you had a Mono culture you could run them without a casing? I Don't know.

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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: TheChief]
    #23382221 - 06/25/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Does casing help regular cubes? Like substantially? I've done about 7 small mini monos and never cased. Some quite weak flushes... Wondering if casing woulda helped abit.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23382228 - 06/25/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I gather its jiffy mix seed starter?
I've heard this before,  I've just had a abundance of my other materials but since I'm no longer there. I'm in need of a quickie casing substitute. Probably pickup a bag tomorrow.  Thanks again homies!


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Toad83]
    #23382236 - 06/25/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I've had heavy flushes with cubes without casing but I hear it's always a good idea.  But penis envy thrives with a case.  I'm just asking about the time frame in terms of fruiting PE without a casing layer.


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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Toad83]
    #23382287 - 06/25/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

The two flush I posted uncased took place over a months time... My PE culture is a nightmare without casing. Cased and consolidated correctly it takes a week to ten days for the flush I posted in the third picture...

I case with 50/50 peat/verm. Field capacity. pH buffer up to 7 or 8 with calcium hydroxide. I add a little gypsum and perlite too if I have it.

Everyone has their own casing method.

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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: TheChief]
    #23382305 - 06/25/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Imma do straight sphagnum once knotting kicks in.  Think that little microclimate is a happy place :heart:

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Re: No casing layer for Penis envy... [Re: Snazz]
    #23383145 - 06/26/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)



I've only ever casesenis Envy, I do not case my B+ and I get awesome flushes....I do not believe casing other varieties of cubes past PE is substantially important

B+ no casing:


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